View Full Version : 250's coming back....yay!!
Was reading in MCN that Kawasaki have developed a 250 4 stroke model weighing in at just 100kg,and should be followed by efforts by the other big manufacturers to develop new smaller sportbike class
Performance similar to a 125GP bike and GP styling,will hopefully make their way into production soon
Ever since I lusted after an RS250 when I was 16 =P~ ive wanted the 250 class to come back. Not the mad buzzy 2 strokes of old obviously but still,cant complain :D
I think it will be great for getting more kids interested in bikes and give new riders a whole new option for their 1st bike. It better happen! :twisted:
timwilky
06-08-05, 06:06 AM
Ever since I lusted after an RS250 when I was 16 =P~ ive wanted the 250 class to come back. Not the mad buzzy 2 strokes of old obviously but still,cant complain :D
I think it will be great for getting more kids interested in bikes and give new riders a whole new option for their 1st bike. It better happen! :twisted:
MY first 2 250s as a learner were a C15 and then a hustler quickly replaced by a GT. Non of which I would describe as mad buzzy. I still think learners should be allowed upto 250. but I suppose stuff like the LC were over the top
Peter Henry
06-08-05, 07:48 AM
hmmm interesting...but as a toy to play with if they considered a race rep 250 triple I would be at the dealers in a shot! I loved my KH250...we shared a lot together first off's.first wheelies, first.....oops that's a different story! :lol:
fizzwheel
06-08-05, 09:42 AM
I saw that article, very cool 8)
Come on Aprillia get that 450 4 stroke V twin into the RS250 chassis and get it in the shop. I WANT ONE
Last Action Pimp
06-08-05, 09:47 AM
it should get more kids into biking.
at the mo you can only have a 50 or 125 on L plates but when you pass ur test the options are few
1 - stay on a 125cc
2 - buy a 10year old jap 400cc
3 - Buy a 600cc, with high insurance
4 - buy a Nova and Pimp it
Saint Matt
06-08-05, 09:58 AM
I've ridden a CBR250 and that was loads of fun! 18k redline is awesome
kwak zzr
06-08-05, 10:03 AM
buy a jap 400! dont do the NOVA thing :)
SVeeedy Gonzales
06-08-05, 11:37 AM
I liked the SV fine when it was on 33bhp, so an SV400 (they actually make SV400's in Japan or something, don't they?) would be pretty funky.
Cheaper insurance, maybe cheaper fuel costs as well. I think the SV650 is too much for just commuting/pootling about. I like the fact that it can be let loose and has loads more grunt for weekends and so on, but if I were just commuting I'd want something smaller.
Does anyone think the MotoGP 800cc decision is going to bring back a new wave of 750-800cc bikes, and reduce the amount of 1000cc jobs out there? What about WSB and BSB going down to 800cc - anyone think that will follow MotoGP??
kwak zzr
06-08-05, 12:43 PM
they tend to follow WSB more than moto dont they? at leest foggy will be ready with his 900cc triple!
superpole 4 oclock today on euro if anyones intrested?
elmerfud
06-08-05, 06:21 PM
return of 250 4 strokes.....
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honda dream / superdream
kwak z250
yam xs
kwak gpx
Why have a highly strung gutless 250 which will last about 2 weeks when all they really need to do is put the sv650 on a diet to make a really interesting plaything.
muddycoffee
06-08-05, 06:54 PM
I had some wonderful years on 250s. I had a 250 superdream, and later a GSX250. They were both interesting bikes and seemingly massive after 125s for so many years.
http://www.rocknroll.f9.co.uk/motor/suzi2.jpg
this was my GSX250 covered in snow. I bought it non running and forgotten from someone's shed for 100 quid, fixed it, rode it for 2 years and sold it for £250..
In those days there were hundreds of ten year old 250cc bikes from 1979 when they made learners ride only 125cc I bought my superdream for £75 there were loads of bikes like that around really cheap..
Peter Henry
06-08-05, 07:04 PM
Kawasaki KH250 1976...Bought brand new...The best 620 squid I ever spent!
The one shown lacks the passenger grab rail and the fine candy pinstripe on the tank and tail piece! Someone has also robbed the single front disc off the front! thinking about it this one is actually more an "S1" (I am sure Jonboy can confirm)Plus some nerd has dented the tank! :shock: Screaming 250's kicking out plumes of smoke when you screwing the nuts off it! Absolutely brill!
http://www.thebikereview.com/iup/get8.asp?ID=987
Jelster
06-08-05, 08:43 PM
Must say, my only other encounter into biking before my DAS was an FS1E when I was 16, and a very brief affair with a "coffin tank" RD250 in 1979 until it got hit by a car while it was by the side of the road.
Was like this but blue, with black expansion pipes...
http://www.motosclassicas70.com.br/Fotos/JY2_111_RD250_Mark%20Baldwin_M.jpg
Lot's of noise and white smoke. Would love to do it all again....
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hehe, here is my slighty more modern 250 :D
http://photos22.flickr.com/31771982_ec5e1a1ed9.jpg
kwak zzr
06-08-05, 09:07 PM
that a 250 hornet? looks great.
sure is. hope jabba doesn't mind another hornet about the place :D
That looks the dogs Jelv,very cool :D
kwak zzr
07-08-05, 07:55 AM
nice 250 :thumbsup: never seen one of those before.
250 stroker.. now thats mad.. and I know where I can lay my hands on one of these:
http://www.the-earth.ndo.co.uk/jpeg's/mbike1.jpg
http://www.the-earth.ndo.co.uk/jpeg's/kr1s%20angle%20front.jpg
http://www.the-earth.ndo.co.uk/jpeg's/kr1s%20and%20me.jpg
Got a RGV 250 in the garage. :lol:
kwak zzr
07-08-05, 03:42 PM
i know 250 two strokes are great little handling bikes but dont the engines go "POP" easy?
suzsv650
07-08-05, 08:54 PM
ive got a
RD350LC 1981 in white!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Saint Matt
07-08-05, 09:01 PM
i know 250 two strokes are great little handling bikes but dont the engines go "POP" easy?
Engines go as well as you treat them mate. Warmed up properly and ran on the best 2 stroke oil (castrol TTS, Motul 600 etc) they will be reliable. As long as you get one that hasnt ben thrashed mind, also an italian one built on a friday afternoon wont be any good!
kwak zzr
07-08-05, 09:58 PM
on men and motors there was a programe following racers i think it was called NATRUAL BORN RACERS. they were running little 2strokes with all the best gear,mechanics and oil and they were great when running properly but very unreliable.
afterburner
08-08-05, 01:52 PM
hehe, here is my slighty more modern 250 :D
http://photos22.flickr.com/31771982_ec5e1a1ed9.jpg
Hey nice bike. In Victoria Australia all learners and riders with their licence for less than a year have to ride a 250. They dont sell your bike here, only the old CB250 and the VTR250 (mine is like the one below).
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/afterburner/VTR250.jpg
A Hornet 250 would be awesome. Most learners here buy old grey import CBR250RR's which are repainted to look like current models. As such theres a pretty big market for 250's here.
Carsick
08-08-05, 02:11 PM
i know 250 two strokes are great little handling bikes but dont the engines go "POP" easy?
Engines go as well as you treat them mate. Warmed up properly and ran on the best 2 stroke oil (castrol TTS, Motul 600 etc) they will be reliable. As long as you get one that hasnt ben thrashed mind, also an italian one built on a friday afternoon wont be any good!
Obviously how you maintain them is a factor, but it's simply true that a smallish 2 stroke on a sports styled bike is pretty likely to go pop at some point if it's pushed anywhere near it's potential.
Peter Henry
09-08-05, 05:10 PM
I have to tell you that my poor 250 triple was thrashed for almost 3 years and never failed me once! That was a great bike! Little end bearings got a bit noisey but apart from that,(which would have been a relatively easy fix) she ran great. Only failures were due to me throwing her down the road during my formative biking years(17 to 20!) :lol: 8)
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