View Full Version : GOT MY KNEE DOWN!
suzsv650
16-08-05, 10:02 PM
i got it down tonight! woowooo!
but i did not get it down for a long time it only clicked along the floor! i did it twice! and hasn't put much scraces on my slider... (motrax Sparkies)
soo now my mate dosent think i got it down as he has a cheep slider which tears away when he gets his down! mine is nice n though and only scrapes lil bits :lol:
but i stil heard the click! and it shocked my knee!
can someone please explain this knee down culture to me.
I dont get it. :? :(
Does this make me an incomplete biker?? or is it a testosterone driven thing? If MCN/Fast Bikes etc are anything to go by youre not a proper bike unless you get your knee down and can wheelie the bike. :roll: :cry:
its part of a self accoplishment thing lyn,
i just wanna get mine down - when i do i probably wont do it again :)
hall13uk
17-08-05, 01:07 AM
ever since i got my knee down i have never really been bothered about it since, if i just stay on i am happy :)
Balky001
17-08-05, 07:46 AM
Lynn - getting your knee down is a rite of passage for many bikers. It's part of the complete package - touring, commuting, taking that first perfect corner, pillion ride, near misses a wet riding in winter. Not everyone does everything, but its fun if you can.
Congrats! :D
One day I'll get mine down! :D
I got my toe down this morning.....
can someone please explain this knee down culture to me.
I dont get it. :? :(
Does this make me an incomplete biker?? or is it a testosterone driven thing? If MCN/Fast Bikes etc are anything to go by youre not a proper bike unless you get your knee down and can wheelie the bike. :roll: :cry:
I'm with you, can't see the point of getting the knee down or doing a wheelie. I'd say you are a proper biker when you manage to always stay on two wheels. Wheelis is when you cannot control the bike's power and therefore the front goes up and knee down is when you have obviously gone into the corner too fast.
The day I learn to do either I'll most prolly change my mind 8)
Saint Matt
17-08-05, 09:06 AM
Yerp, it's a right of passage for me. I'm fairly sure i can do it, my leathers should be here soon so i'll give it a go if the conditions are right, not something i want to risk losing my bike over though so if it gets uneasy then i'll call it a day. It shouldnt be too hard though, i have no chicken strips on the rear (i went off the side of the tyre on the way to work on monday, the right tirwall at the top is all chewed lol, didnt half wobble wont be doing THAT again), it shouldnt take too much hanging off. Time for some roundabout surfing methinks.
So Saint Matt, that picture on yer avatar isn't really you with the whole knee down thing going on....
Carsick
17-08-05, 09:24 AM
can someone please explain this knee down culture to me.
I dont get it. :? :(
Does this make me an incomplete biker?? or is it a testosterone driven thing? If MCN/Fast Bikes etc are anything to go by youre not a proper bike unless you get your knee down and can wheelie the bike. :roll: :cry:
I'm with you, can't see the point of getting the knee down or doing a wheelie. I'd say you are a proper biker when you manage to always stay on two wheels. Wheelis is when you cannot control the bike's power and therefore the front goes up and knee down is when you have obviously gone into the corner too fast.
The day I learn to do either I'll most prolly change my mind 8)
While I don't disagree about them being pointless, your argument against them is a little simplistic. I can control the power of the SV quite well (even if it's the only bit I can control) and wheelies are just a bit of fun to be had now and then.
Getting your knee down is a different matter. It can be a genuine racing technique and although it's unnecessary on the road I don't have a problem with people doing it in general. It doesn't mean you went in too fast at all. You'll find that alot of the time those people putting their knee down are more aware of their entry speed than those who don't.
I used to get my knee down all the time when I used to race MiniMoto, does that count ? :wink:
I would like to achive this myself, but I realise this will take some time getting more experience and confidence on the bike.
That said its not really a big deal to me, if I never achieve it I won't be on my death bed thinking "sh%t I nver got my knee down".
I do feel uneasy about doing it on public roads though.
can someone please explain this knee down culture to me.
I dont get it. :? :(
Does this make me an incomplete biker?? or is it a testosterone driven thing? If MCN/Fast Bikes etc are anything to go by youre not a proper bike unless you get your knee down and can wheelie the bike. :roll: :cry:
I'm with you, can't see the point of getting the knee down or doing a wheelie. I'd say you are a proper biker when you manage to always stay on two wheels. Wheelis is when you cannot control the bike's power and therefore the front goes up and knee down is when you have obviously gone into the corner too fast.
The day I learn to do either I'll most prolly change my mind 8)
While I don't disagree about them being pointless, your argument against them is a little simplistic. I can control the power of the SV quite well (even if it's the only bit I can control) and wheelies are just a bit of fun to be had now and then.
Getting your knee down is a different matter. It can be a genuine racing technique and although it's unnecessary on the road I don't have a problem with people doing it in general. It doesn't mean you went in too fast at all. You'll find that alot of the time those people putting their knee down are more aware of their entry speed than those who don't.
Was being sarcy carsick, reaqd the small prints :wink:
Carsick
17-08-05, 10:58 AM
Was being sarcy carsick, reaqd the small prints :wink:
d'oh, I saw the last bit but didn't think you'd meant about the whole thing.
hall13uk
17-08-05, 01:15 PM
I got my toe down this morning..... is that when
you got off the bike :wink: :lol: .
never been that intrested in wheelies & stuff your more of a "real" biker if you wear the correct gear & improve your handling skillls imo. so if you want to be a "real" biker do iam & bike safe.
fizzwheel
17-08-05, 01:20 PM
Hehe well done :-)
Lyn: It's fun, it's proving something to yourself and also learning something.
Agreed thats how I see it, can I do it can I b*l*x its fun trying though
exduker
17-08-05, 01:40 PM
After 18yrs of riding bikes, I can honestly say I've never done a wheelie or got my knee down. Does this make me an incomplete biker? I don't think so - my "fear threshhold" is too low to try and I'm worried about trashing my bike (and myself) in trying!
I think it comes down to the old adage: "ride within your limits" - if, like me, you don't have the nervous disposition/confidence/ability/carefree attitude to self preservation that is required to keep "pushing the envelope" then so be it, if you do, good luck to you!
I would question the sense of getting that far over on public roads in any case, though, as you certainly don't have an exit strategy (except crash) at that level lof commitment.
Just the author's opinion and not necessarily that of the "management" of course!
Carsick
17-08-05, 02:23 PM
if you want to be a "real" biker do iam & bike safe.
Riiiight....
That's what I was thinking.
If you want to be a real biker, just ride your bike; that's all it takes.
mysteryjimbo
17-08-05, 02:28 PM
if you want to be a "real" biker do iam & bike safe.
Riiiight....
That's what I was thinking.
If you want to be a real biker, just ride your bike; that's all it takes.
I'd say ride your bike with confidence as often as possible.
WelshWop
17-08-05, 02:43 PM
I recently learnt to get my knee down, and im currently doing it quite often, when its safe to. Hence buying Cloggsy's sparkies :D For me its just exciting. And tbh i think im quicker sat on the bike properly than when im getting my knee down.
Carsick
17-08-05, 02:56 PM
if you want to be a "real" biker do iam & bike safe.
Riiiight....
That's what I was thinking.
If you want to be a real biker, just ride your bike; that's all it takes.
I'd say ride your bike with confidence as often as possible.
Merely a bonus, I'd say. :wink:
suzsv650
17-08-05, 08:10 PM
i only cliped it atm i am trying to keep it on the ground for a long time !
proper sparks out of me sparkies :twisted:
kwak zzr
17-08-05, 08:16 PM
:cry: carnt do it :cry:
Red ones
17-08-05, 08:23 PM
I'm with Lyn - I don't get it.
Police riders are amongst the quickest out there, but who ever saw a BMW or Dullsville with the knee down?
'cause theyre not the type of bikes you can get your knee down on,or yes even need to
Did feel awesome the 1st time I did it but I agree with the opinion that its not needed or particuarly safe on the road. Doesnt stop me sometimes though :-dd
After nearly ploughing into the back of my mates who constantly try and get their knees down :roll: I realised you can go faster in most cases when your knees not planted on the deck and youre all out of ground clearance :P
If the copper I went past when I was surfing a roundabout one day was anything to go off it doesnt even honk some coppers off that much,if youre not going too fast and you do it smoothly. I guess thats where a standup wheelie comes in :)
never been that intrested in wheelies & stuff your more of a "real" biker if you wear the correct gear & improve your handling skillls imo. so if you want to be a "real" biker do iam & bike safe.
and that worries me. that you think if you do the courses that is all it takes to be a "real" biker. That 2 courses will be everything you need to know in addition to the DAS.
those courses can help you and get you developing your skills, but theres no way they can ever give you the one thing that does make you a better rider [in general]: experience.
bum on seat time is invaluable. and theyre not the only courses you can do. anyone who is thinking they do the courses and theyve nothing else to learn other than perfect the techniques taught is on a sticky wicket imho. as long as you realise that every day you get on the bike youre not a riding god and theres something, even little things, that you can improve on then you'll be fine.
Im not condeming you for wanting to do them, in fact wholeheartedly think its a good idea. But you need to have the same perspective to additional training as you do to your gear. It helps but it doesnt make you invincible. :)
Balky001
18-08-05, 07:30 AM
All this talk of being a real biker is a state of mind - as if there is only one type of real biker.
If you want to sit on your tourer doing 40mph all day, never filtering and leaning about 5 degrees from bolt upright - cool, if you getting a kick out of it, enjoying the freedom. You don't need knee down or a host of courses under your belt although clearly the more enthusiastic you are the more likely you'll do those. Me, I like to rush up the A13 on the way to work, Southend to the City in 40 minutes. No too banzai (guess that's a matter of opinion) - just reading the road and the half alseep drivers, being sharp and giving it 10 10ths. But its not just speed and the manouverability of the bike that makes me get up in the morning looking forward to the ride - its being on the bike - period. Even the slow bsuy stuff is fun. And getting your knee down around the (round) London Museum off St Paul's is just a bonus! If you are doing it and enjoying it then you are a real biker however, you might not be any good at actually riding the bike! :wink:
Flamin_Squirrel
18-08-05, 07:52 AM
I'm with Lyn - I don't get it.
Police riders are amongst the quickest out there, but who ever saw a BMW or Dullsville with the knee down?
That's because they're heavy. For a given centre of gravity, the greater the weight, the less the lean angle required for a given corner speed.
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