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Fuzz
19-08-05, 11:46 AM
Occassionally while riding I will hit a false neutral between 4th and 5th or 5th and 6th. I know the 2000 model was supposed to have a slightly dodgy gearbox, but is there and easier fix than fitting a K1 'box, or is it best just to live with it?

Cloggsy
19-08-05, 11:57 AM
Live with it... They're often cause by the rider not quite engaging the gear during changes... RiDE reported a false neutral problem on the write up for my KTM, can't say I've experienced it, especially with my size 10's booting the shifter ;)

Biker Biggles
19-08-05, 12:01 PM
Also check that your chain is correctly adjusted and lubed,and your gear lever linkage is adjusted and greased.

fizzwheel
19-08-05, 12:42 PM
What Biker Biggles said

Also stick your boot under the lever and apply and little pressure to the lever to load it up before you change gear that helps to

Scoobs
19-08-05, 01:57 PM
Never had one on the SV. Used to get them ALL the time on my RS125

branny
19-08-05, 02:01 PM
yeah!
ive had that between 5th and 6th.
then the other day i got one between 3rd and 4th.

its just a case of trying to do it all too fast.

im sure weve all found neutral between 1st and 2nd and revved the balls of it!!!
its just this on a higher scale... id say no problem at all. :lol:

Jase22
19-08-05, 02:34 PM
Don't pre-load yer lever!!! You'll nacker the selector and you'll end up finding even more false neutrals!!!

Skip
22-08-05, 09:18 AM
Never had one on the SV. Used to get them ALL the time on my RS125
Never had a problem with my K1 but my mates Ducati Monster 600 is a nightmare... I am sure that the gearbox goes...

1st
Neutral
2nd
Neutral
3rd
Neutral
4th
Neutral
5th
Neutral
6th

:lol:

Kylie
22-08-05, 11:41 AM
My K3 does it from time to time from 5th to 6th. I figured the problem was pilot error....

jonboy
22-08-05, 11:59 AM
In 28k miles I must have had 300 false neutrals, mostly between 3&4 & 4&5.

I'm convinced that clutchless up-shifting is not greatly appreciated by the SV's gearbox.


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skidmarx
22-08-05, 12:08 PM
apart from the chain.......the best thing you can do is to make sure you adjust the gear lever DOWN. solved my problem completely. You have a limited range of ankle movement up and sometimes it can feel like you've 'gone all the way' but inreality just gone as far as you can! Takes 2 minutes. Adjust the end of your lever down 10mm and try it out.

fizzwheel
22-08-05, 12:09 PM
Don't pre-load yer lever!!! You'll nacker the selector and you'll end up finding even more false neutrals!!!

Well I've been doing that since I had my SV, and its not got better but it hasnt got any worse either, and thats after 12,000 odd miles of riding in all weathers

Just my opinion

Fuzz
22-08-05, 05:04 PM
What I find strange about the SV is sometimes I can knock it up and not feel as if the gear lever has moved at all, and other times I feel like it's gone all the way but I'm stuck in a false neutral (or the same gear on one occasion 8-[ )

fizzwheel
22-08-05, 05:16 PM
What I find strange about the SV is sometimes I can knock it up and not feel as if the gear lever has moved at all, and other times I feel like it's gone all the way but I'm stuck in a false neutral (or the same gear on one occasion 8-[ )

Aint just the SV that does that, thats why I preload the lever a little before I change gears, stops that from happening

AlfBoy
22-08-05, 07:38 PM
Never had one on the SV. Used to get them ALL the time on my RS125
Never had a problem with my K1 but my mates Ducati Monster 600 is a nightmare... I am sure that the gearbox goes...

1st
Neutral
2nd
Neutral
3rd
Neutral
4th
Neutral
5th
Neutral
6th

:lol:

ROFLMAO

I tend to find a false neutral in my SV between any gear!

RandyO
22-08-05, 08:46 PM
as already posted
1. proper chain tension
2. oil at correct level
3. clean shift linkage
4, good positive shifts.... sometimes adjusting lever for your ergonomics helps, also consider flipping linkage to Gp shift 1 up 5 down

Graham
23-08-05, 02:24 AM
I've done nearly 60000 miles on my 2000 model now without ever finding a false neutral. It's a lovely gearbox that feels like day one.
I would guess that you haven't been lubing the gearlever and the stiffness is not allowing you to engage the gears fully.

Fuzz
23-08-05, 09:32 AM
sometimes I can knock it up and not feel as if the gear lever has moved at all

It's not stiff, it moves effortlessly...

northwind
23-08-05, 11:46 PM
I get them infrequently enough that it totalyl freaks me out when I do get one :) You might want to consider the Factory Pro shift star and detent spring kit...

(ok, the truth is I really want someone to try the kit out so I can decide if I want one or not...)