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In the old days, indicators used to beep when on to save you forgetting to turn them off and confusing the poor motorist who gets a gold plated excuse for pulling out in front of you.
Anyone know of a neat way of fitting such a beeper/buzzer to a K1 naked cluster? Probably just a case of connecting a buzzer between the turn signal on the instrument cluster and a decent earth point, but was wondering if anyone had done this and come up with the neatest way of doing it or if someone has done it and decided it is more annoying than I could have imagined and regretted ever doing it.
Thanks in advance,
Mark
nuntius
24-08-05, 10:20 PM
Look for a 'datatool turnalert' - that's exactly what you are describing.
I got one of ebay for a tenner and it is easy enough to fit.
tigersaw
24-08-05, 10:25 PM
I fitted a 12v sounder under the rear seat, using the feeds to the rear indicators, isolated from each other using diodes. It cost nothing just using gash bits and is easy to do and there is plenty of room to fit it.
I did once dabble with this on another bike.
Don't bother with cheapo buzzers like you get for a quid from Maplins etc, they seem to be the wrong sort of frequencies and aren't loud enough to hear when you're moving especially if you use earplugs.
I never did sort out a good arrangement.
Anonymous
24-08-05, 11:13 PM
In the "Beep Beep" thread below, good ol' Henners got it right (as usual) when he said that manufacturers had stopped fitting audible warning devices because of complaints. In the late seventies, the manufacturer I worked for (and later retailed) retro-removed all the bleepers after complaints from (I think) the RNIB that people with challenged eyesight could step out in front of moving machines, thinking they were Pelican or Zebra crossings signalling "Cross Now".
It's potentially the same problem today.....but multiplied by the even greater number of controlled crossings and with the added problem of bikes being mistaken for reversing trucks! It gets worse when you consider that you have to get the bleeper going pretty loud to penetrate a full face helmet and earplugs...in my day we had a pudding basin and white scarf so a light "chirrup" was OK!
On behalf of blind people, please make your "reminder" warning system visual, not audible.
Sid Squid
25-08-05, 07:00 AM
I don't recall any bike coming with an indicator reminder as standard, I only remember them as aftermarket add-ons.
What bike did anyone have that had this as standard?
Last Action Pimp
25-08-05, 07:06 AM
the new pug jetforce has that! its soo annoying and embarrising (I only rode it because my Sv was having a new tyre and it was not throught choice)
Anonymous
25-08-05, 08:50 AM
I don't recall any bike coming with an indicator reminder as standard, I only remember them as aftermarket add-ons.
What bike did anyone have that had this as standard?
Well, I could have gone nuts (probably have), but some early K twins and triples.
Thanks for the speedy responses. I'm sure the older bikes had a beep. Nothing as fancy as a beeper that cuts in after 20 flashes, more a buzzer in parallel with the dash indicator. I used to have an early 70's Suzuki 90cc something or other that had one and I'm sure my Dad's old 750/4 had one too. Mind you it may have been the 70's version of todays stick on carbon bits and just an add-on that everyone added at the time.
Must admit did not think of the added danger of blind people leaping out in front of me thinking I was a crossing, but will consider that when ever somone with a labrador suddenly steps out in front of me.
Just develop a nervous twitch to look down at the idiot light on the pannel. Simple but effective!
quikstu
25-08-05, 04:09 PM
Test rode the new GSX-R750 last month. It has a beep alert which sounds after 20s of indicating if you have not switched it off.
Handy I suppose but I'd want to cancel my indicator a lot earlier than after 20s!!
I don't recall any bike coming with an indicator reminder as standard, I only remember them as aftermarket add-ons.
What bike did anyone have that had this as standard?
A lot of Hondas from the late 70s had them fitted and I remember being given one by a dealer who removed many of them because of owner complaints
biketeacherdave
26-08-05, 07:28 AM
I have fitted them to my DAS bikes to help people learning to ride to remeber to turn them off, they cost a tenner from HG and are far better than the datatool one which is expensive and complicated to fit.
I was amazed at the difference it made to the saftey of my learner riders as people didnt run out in front of them when turning into side roads and the cagers all look out for us at junctions waiting in traffic, i have orderd some more and will fit one to the wifes new K5 SV650 along with renthals :D
Anyone know of a neat way of fitting such a beeper/buzzer to a K1 naked cluster?
I have the Datatool Turnalert fitted to my Naked K1 - the buzzer is mounted next to the left hand grip and the led has been very neatly glued to the right hand side of the speedo unit (outside) - to be honest I find it more annoying than useful especially if you go round a lot of large roundabouts where you might need it to stay on for more than 20 flashes!
The Mass
26-08-05, 09:16 AM
In the "Beep Beep" thread below, good ol' Henners got it right (as usual) when he said that manufacturers had stopped fitting audible warning devices because of complaints. In the late seventies, the manufacturer I worked for (and later retailed) retro-removed all the bleepers after complaints from (I think) the RNIB that people with challenged eyesight could step out in front of moving machines, thinking they were Pelican or Zebra crossings signalling "Cross Now".
It's potentially the same problem today.....but multiplied by the even greater number of controlled crossings and with the added problem of bikes being mistaken for reversing trucks! It gets worse when you consider that you have to get the bleeper going pretty loud to penetrate a full face helmet and earplugs...in my day we had a pudding basin and white scarf so a light "chirrup" was OK! :lol: :lol: :lol:
On behalf of blind people, please make your "reminder" warning system visual, not audible.
I worked for the RNID for a while, and they had links with the RNIB & BT but that was a while back, I thought they had chnaged the signals at lights now? I was told that they have buttons underneath the little button thing that you press to stop the traffic.
These buttons are like braille buttons that tell them when it's safe to cross.
I know some have them, and not many people know about them.
Anyhow..game on!
I have fitted them to my DAS bikes to help people learning to ride to remeber to turn them off, they cost a tenner from HG and are far better than the datatool one which is expensive and complicated to fit.
Have you got a web link for HG( :?: ) Dave?
biketeacherdave
26-08-05, 06:52 PM
Sorry i dont have a link to HG they didnt have a working web site for ages but i think they have finally got one, i use my local HG at Welling. Hope that helps, its about a 5 minute job to fit.
SVeeedy Gonzales
26-08-05, 07:08 PM
For anyone with a datatool turnalert who hates the fact that it whinges after 20 flashes... it doesn't (or at least, shouldn't) count flashes whilst the back brake light is lit/back brake pedal held down. Had this on a hire bike for over a month before I found that out :oops:
It's still possible to miss the warning though, especially if you've just turned onto a high speed road and are focusing on accelerating and then travelling at a high speed with more windblast, etc.
I rely on paranoia to make me check at least 3 times after using them :D
Their website is still down and it was not much use when it was up.
Their site is www.hein-gericke.co.uk
You can order mail order on 0800 165165
The sounder is item 22001445 Indicator Buzzer £7.99
If you've not already got one it's woth sending off for their catalogue as it makes good reading if left in the bathroom next to the loo.
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