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H62
25-08-05, 11:30 AM
Got sent this from a colleague at work.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

The Honda rider was traveling at such a "very high speed", his reaction
time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident. Swedish Police
estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h before the bike hit the slow moving car
side-on at an intersection. At that speed, they predicted that the
rider's reaction time (once the vehicle came into view) wasn't
sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes. The car had two
passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them. The
Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10
feet from where the collision took place. All three involved (two in car
and rider) were killed instantly. This graphic demonstration was placed
at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety
Department. The sign above the display also noted that the rider had
only recently obtained his license.



http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/H62/pic31556.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/H62/pic30303.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/H62/pic22798.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/H62/pic16519.jpg

Grinch
25-08-05, 11:32 AM
have you noticed that on the last pic the is a rip though the floor of the car.

Scoobs
25-08-05, 12:02 PM
have you noticed that on the last pic the is a rip though the floor of the car.

The car has probably been cut to get the occupants out.

Still very nasty though.

falc
25-08-05, 12:12 PM
That is very nasty :(

Those kind of speeds though should be saved for the racetrack and only the racetrack

PsychoCannon
25-08-05, 03:14 PM
Bloody hell!

I feel really sorry for the car passengers most of all but of course for the rider too.
The car on the sort of road that has intersections no doubt saw the bike in the distance and just didn't expect it to approach so fast.

Thats insane how much damage it did at 155mph (210kmph)

When i got banned on the M6 i was just patting myself on the back for hitting 135mph.
Got banned for an average of 110MPH.

No whilst that is hard to defend even on the motorway doing it on a road where you have intersecting traffic was even more so BUT:

The cop that pulled me over sat me down and gave me the usual finger wagging and believe it or not i did sit and think about it as i knew i was in trouble and wanted to try to look at it from their point of view (if nothing else to understand how much trouble i was in)

As bad as i Felt it didn't ram it in quite as much as that picture :shock:
135 sounded fast but it didn't feel it, seeing that it can actually tear the bike INTO a cage and crush the passengers to death......

I always thought hey if i crash then i'm only really going to hurt myself.
Guess thats kind of ignorant huh.

(Not that it matters now as i'm driving like a good boy :) )

Moo
25-08-05, 03:25 PM
No words can really to add but that had to hurt. :lol:

coombest
25-08-05, 04:09 PM
Hmmm... That's quite horrible for me to look at.

It was a VW Golf that pulled out in front of me at a junction. OK, it was the previous model to that and obviously right hand drive.
I also hit the passenger side of the vehicle and caused extensive damage. I was luckily (!) only doing 45 mph-odd and didn't do anywhere near that level of damage and all of us involved lived to tell the tale.

It's worth pointing out just how much damage you can do to things at any speed!

I wrote off my bike and also the car. Apparently the engine moved in the engine bay of the car, the front passenger wheel was bent 90 degrees out from where it should have been, there was coolant & oil all over the place but what I found most shocking of al was that the 'A frame' where the passenger door meets the windscreen was ripped in two and the (shattered) windscreen left hanging over the bonnet...

The only thing that was in a position to have done this was my right wrist! :shock: :shock: :shock: :sick: :sick:
It would probably explain why I broke both the Radius & the Ulna, also leaving achip of bone in the joint and now having a piece of metal in there keeping it together!

I dread to think what would have happened if I was going any faster! :(

PsychoCannon
25-08-05, 04:52 PM
People often under-estimate the human body.
Bones that undergo regular compression such as those in your legs are stronger than concrete :)
Bones are pretty tough things :) a bone wrapped a few lbs of flesh and body armour doing speed will do damage :D

I guess its just easy to not realise how much energy you actually have at speed and how much damage that energy can do when applied in the wrong places ;)

snoopy
25-08-05, 09:58 PM
Work it out.... e= mv + 1/2mv*v

m=mass (kg), v= meters/sec. m = weight/9.8(gravity)

MitchC
26-08-05, 08:02 AM
Work it out.... e= mv + 1/2mv*v

m=mass (kg), v= meters/sec. m = weight/9.8(gravity)

Mass = Weight * 9.8 (Gravity) ? :?

Mitch

PsychoCannon
26-08-05, 09:58 AM
It's been a long time since i did Physics but i belive he is refering to Earths gravity (surface) which is equal to 9.8N (Newtons)

A Newton (i'm sure you know who this is named after) is equal to the amount of force exerted by your average apple at ground level (or 1/4 lb roughly)
Anyways lets do this thang.
(Being IT support for so long i've not stretched the grey matter in years, will be nice to see if i can still do the basics :D)


Energy = mv+ {0.5[m(v^2)]}

!Lets take a guestimate for the mass
Average Human = 70KG
CBR (im assuming thats the bike) = 169KG (Dry)

Mass = 239KG

Velocity= ~250KP/H or ~155MPH or ~69.44m/s

!Therfore

E=239*69.44 +{0.5* [239(69.44*69.44)]}
E=16596.16 + 576218.6752

E= 592814.8352J (joules)
or
E= 598.815KJ (Kilo Joules)


Im doing this in a rush at work so please correct me if im wrong.
To put 598KJ in perspective.

TNT is rated iirc at around 4.27 KJ per gram (the modest estimate)
So the impact of this bike on a stationary car at the speed stated was equal to 140grams (0.14kg / 0.3lbs) of TNT

Flamin_Squirrel
26-08-05, 10:53 AM
Snoopys equations are wrong.

Quiff Wichard
26-08-05, 12:04 PM
how did we go from a graphic pic which surely makes us all think and slow down..to the theory of relativity and rocket science?? :cry: :?:

Jase22
26-08-05, 12:34 PM
how did we go from a graphic pic which surely makes us all think and slow down..to the theory of relativity and rocket science??

The SV lot are obviously a highly intelligent bunch...[/quote]

PsychoCannon
26-08-05, 12:52 PM
how did we go from a graphic pic which surely makes us all think and slow down..to the theory of relativity and rocket science?? :cry: :?:

Actually the theory of reletivity is E=MC2
(Energy is equal to Mass times the Speed of light squared)
Though im sure this one was derived from that :p

As the speed of light is constant (well...ignoring phenomna such as gravity wells and event horizons) it shows that the faster we go (the more energy) the greater our mass becomes so we need more energy to accelerate further ad infinitum so we can never excede the speed of light etc etc etc
I think that works as a basic summary?

PsychoCannon
26-08-05, 12:57 PM
Snoopys equations are wrong.

Can't believe i've atrophied so much i had to look this up

KE=(1/2)mv^2

E=576.2186752KJ

A little less than the previous figure but close :)

Only reason i followed this through was to show just how hard your going to hit something when doing speed by converting it to an equivalent amount of TNT.
A tenth of a bag of sugar doesn't sound as shocking as the pic though i'll admit that =/

Quiff Wichard
26-08-05, 02:41 PM
I think the world and his wife know what the theory of relativity calculation is

I was being sarcastic and hopefully allowing some artisitic licence..

PsychoCannon
26-08-05, 02:45 PM
I think the world and his wife know what the theory of relativity calculation is

I was being sarcastic and hopefully allowing some artisitic licence..

Hehe I aplogise
Me and sarcasm never did see eye to eye (it goes right over my head) :(