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tomjones2
26-08-05, 04:23 PM
hi could anyone fill me in on how the peg should be weighted when cornering

I have tried weighting the outside and inside pegs. Weighting the outside peg seems to increse the grip but make the bike stand up, whereas weighting the inside peg seem to make the bike turn faster and more effortlessly but makes it slightly grippy and gives me a feeling that the front is less sure of itself

At the moment i am weighting the outside peg on the slower, tighter and more slipery corners once i am cornerning above 80 (private test track officer) on nice grippy corners i just countersteer or use a little bit of inside peg once the bike has started to turn.


i am on the right track with this technic i would really apprecited someone faster explaining it to me
:)

Fuzz
26-08-05, 04:33 PM
Four things to consider when cornering.

:arrow: Countersteering - you know this one :wink:
:arrow: Leg pressure on the outside of the tank - keeps your lower body taught and takes the weight off your arms. Also helps to flick the bike into the turn.
:arrow: Shift your bodyweight to the inside of the turn - moves your CoG inside the turn and requires less lean angle for a given speed to make the turn.
:arrow: Weight the inside footpeg. Start the turn with your weight on the inside footpeg to help the bike flick into the turn. When you get on the gas after the apex, transfer your weight to the outside footpeg to help pick the bike up.

HTH

BTW I doubt I am faster than you, but I like to read and learn about these kind of techiniques, and they've certainly helped me get round tight bends I thought I wouldn't make.

tomjones2
26-08-05, 04:35 PM
cheers that makes a lot of sense :) i'll give it a try tommorow

Quiff Wichard
26-08-05, 04:38 PM
I think our spanish Ducat riding friend mr peter Henry posted a topic on this a while back
do a search !

biketeacherdave
26-08-05, 06:54 PM
Dont bother it wont make any difference to your riding. Honest it wont

falc
26-08-05, 11:41 PM
Yup Peter Henry did a thing on this a while ago, it all depends on the rider, some say it makes no difference while some say it does make a difference. Theres not much harm in trying it

I take no responsbility for your actions on this advice :D

Stig
27-08-05, 06:57 AM
I think the idea is to be doing the right speed and having the right body position before you enter into the corner for the speed that you wish to take it. Any "adjustments" you make mid corner are exactly that. Adjustments needed by the rider to counter errors made or changing conditions through the corner.

I would practise cornering technique and get that consistent as a priority, and then learn about the tweaking that you can do afterwards. I nearly always find that weighting the pegs upsets my line more and tend to either drag the rear brake slightly or use more counter-steer. As others have mentioned, what works for one, wont necessarily work for the other.

Fuzz
27-08-05, 10:28 AM
Simple test - ride straight and do no steering inputs other than weighting each peg, kinda like treading water. You will find that the bike continues straight, but weaves across the road, like strafing. I find that weighting the inside helps initiate the turn, and weighting the outside helps pick the bike up, allowing you to get on the power quicker. I'm no racer, but the pure physics of it make complete sense to me.

21QUEST
27-08-05, 10:36 AM
I would practise cornering technique and get that consistent as a priority, and then learn about the tweaking that you can do afterwards. I nearly always find that weighting the pegs upsets my line more and tend to either drag the rear brake slightly or use more counter-steer. As others have mentioned, what works for one, wont necessarily work for the other.


Spot on Mr BigApe

Persnally I know it works for me but you have to be carefeul as too weight(inside) much can reduce traction.

My experience is trying to do too many things in a short period(sorry don't know how long you have being riding but generally applies to everyon in anycase) gets you into bad habits which can difficult to rectify.
When I started riding I was quite quick(relatively speaking) but when I started trying ou too many stuff even I noticed I became slower. It was puzzling at first as I expected to get faster with more experience.

The problem was my head was saturated with all these things I wanted to do (bike mags eh.. :roll: ). . Even now I've still got some bad habits which crop up every so often and I have to give myself a kick in the wotsit.

Cheers
Ben

tomjones2
27-08-05, 04:57 PM
[quote=BigApe]

My experience is trying to do too many things in a short period(sorry don't know how long you have being riding but generally applies to everyon in anycase) gets you into bad habits which can difficult to rectify.
When I started riding I was quite quick(relatively speaking) but when I started trying ou too many stuff even I noticed I became slower. It was puzzling at first as I expected to get faster with more experience.



I've been riding about 3 years and i know exactley what you mean about doing to much to soon, it took me two years to get the looking through the corner and cournersteering working properly. As i have been getting quicker i am begining to find the need to use the pegs as well, even the little practiceing i have done so far has allowed to be a smoother and i dont have to move about so much to achive the same level of turn.

went out for a spin a discovered that weighting the outside definaley lets you get on the gas earler when exiting corners, i just going to keep practicing until it becomes second nature

I've also just a cheap rm250 with a wrecked rear tire which is teaching me a lot about the limits of traction, when the power cuts in while cornering its scary as hell :shock: but then again falling off dosent hurt - something which i have been practicing a lot :lol:

johnnyrod
30-08-05, 01:43 PM
Weight on the outside peg, and use the inside bar primarily to keep it on line, don't know why but seems to give the best feel and gets you on the road to hanging off if that's your bag (not necessary on the road). I can't believe there are people here saying they can't feel a difference by changing the way you use your weight. Don't forget you can move back and forth as well, e.g. plonk your **** back if you're planning on Jamie Whitham braking, then slide forwards so you can gas it like a lunatic without the front coming up in slow bends.

There's a lot to figure out, e.g. for me left- and right-handers feel different so I'm obviously doing something wrong which I need to figure out. You'll get your own style and feel comfortable in it, I have a mate who rides like a cartoon character for example!