GPS for Car and Sv

[Diveboy]

I'm looking for a Sat Nav unit for my car that I can also use on the bike. I have no idea what I need or what unit to buy so all/any advice is welcome.

[TC3]

Navman do a neat small one that would fit in a map pocket and telss you where speed cameras are . It shows the map in 3d so you can look ahead. It is called the icn520...mate has one and it works very well. Software preloaded on it and is ready to go.....checkout navman.co.uk

[superfuzzwill]

garmin quest. my dad has one on his beemer. works nicely, waterproof

will

[trick]

that tomtom system is supposed to be good, all the shop are raving about it

[Diveboy]

I do like that the Garmin is water resistant. Will have to check up on the Navman

[TSM]

I just have all mine on an XDAII pda with TomTom 5, plus external bluetooth GPS.

Its also my phone as well. I used it for my trip to Portugal and back and worked fine. I have a power socket on the bike to keep it powered. I dont bother mounting it, i kept it in the top of my tank bag.

[Cloggsy]

How about the TomTom Rider (http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=80&Language=4) :?:

[Wiltshire7]

ive got one for my car, i just stick it in a pocket and use the earphones. id have serious worries about having one i could see as i know i would keep looking at it as i do in my car.

[aimhamilton]

My mates just got the navman 510 and uses it on his Fazer 1000 and in his car! Brilliant....

he sits it in the top of the Bagalux Bagster tank bank (u have to have a clear path between GPS reciever and sky) and then plugs his earphones in so he doesn't have to look at it when riding! It works well and he has even fitted a 12V power outlet onto his bike so that he can plug it straight in. No wires hanging out all need a tidy. The best bit is the 12V plug you can attach to the Bagster tank bank and then the sat nav plugs into the bag...pure genius!

I will probably be investing in one next summer!

If you want (if your a bit of techy geek like me) you can flash the Navman so that its boots to windows CE instead and then you can use it as a PDA aswell or install Tom Tom on it....multi bonus!

[TC3]

JUst checked out the new navman pin570 which doubles as a pocket pc that plays video and also you can edit pics. Just what i have been waiting for and it is 270 quid on the web if you look hard enough

[Diveboy]

Thanks people. I hand never thought of putting it in a tank bag. Can you still use the touch screen if you do it that way?

Was going for the Garmin but if I can have a pda with nav I could just change my mind.

[trick]

(u have to have a clear path between GPS reciever and sky)

couldnt you just put some kind of sensor-on-the-end-of-a-wire on top of your helmet?? maybe an idea if it exists. or maybe it would be safer on the taiol or somthing, i dunno, im talking bollox really

TRICK

[TSM]

you dont need a complete clear line of sight, just nothing metalic etc.

I had mine inside my bag surrounded by clothes and it was fine when i was on the bike, when i use it in the car sometimes i have it in the little cubby hole above the radio and it still works.

[padmane]

For anyone coming to Ireland as my mate did last month. GPS only works in Dublin and Belfast :roll: and a few main roads! I still use Autoroute 2002 which have all the roads. Later versons are crap. I'll be buying the Tomtom rider when its released. I use a laptop in the car with Navagator 4 talking to me. And a pocket PC for the bike when I get it shortly.

[Diveboy]

Any ideas how much the TomTom Rider will be and if there will be a subscription charge?

[Cloggsy]

Any ideas how much the TomTom Rider will be and if there will be a subscription charge?

It'll be £400+ but I don't think you'll have to pay any subs :!:

[Diveboy]

Ouch £400+ you can get a Garmin Quest for £350. The TomTom does link with your phone if it has bluetooth.

Whats the usual cost for map updates?

[drumwrecker]

Just got myself a Garmin Quest, £330 from Dixons. It's great after getting used to it. I also bought a bike mount for my SV which I fixed to the centre faring mounting bracket and it also works fine. To get sound the power lead has to be connected. So I cut the lead and put a connector in line so I can remove the mounting, it costs just under £80.00 so wasn't going to leave that on my bike for any length of time unaccompanied. I'm trying to find the best way to hear it in my AGV V Flyer helmet. I have tried various earbud type earphones but they seem to hurt with the pressure from the helmet and don't overcome the wind and road noise so I bought some inner ear noise reduction earphones from Maplin (£4.99) but they aren't that good either so I'm now looking at velcroing some small speakers into my helmet but can't find any in this country, the USA have them though for $30.00 so that may be my next move. I may be able to fix some foam around them to suppress the wind and road noise unless anyone out there has a better idea.
The down side is remembering to take it with you but the upside is You have the time, your exact speed, the road you are on, direction etc in front of you wich is great especially the exact speed.
I would just love it to lose it's temper when I go off route.
It comes with mapping software which I have updated but have yet to fully try t out.
I understand the TomTom sofware can cost a lot for extra maps and udates so it's worth investigating that side of things also I believe the motorcycle version cost over £500.
Hope this is of help to you.
I just love it.

[Diveboy]

These are made for motorbike helmets but we sell them as In-ear monitors. When you get them there is even a picture of a bike on the box :shock:

http://www.canford.co.uk/commerce/productdetails.aspx?productid=54-491
I should be able to get these cheaper if not at least free shipping.

I have some of these http://www.maximonsolutions.com/motorbikeheadsets.html I got mine from eBay for £15 you can chop the mic off if you don't need it and change the connectors to suit what you need.

[Noufy]

The TomTom Rider is actually £600. But TRomTom have great software, I have the tomtomGo in teh car. Used to have a Garmin, their software is nit taht gr8 and the bundle it comes in is not too gr8 eaither. Although I undrestand they have changed things now.

I am hoping I will get the TomTom Rider from my boss as a Birthday present this yr, just let it be known to a few ppl in the office that I REALLY want one. last yr I got a 2 piece Dainese suit, so I am not day dreaming :wink:

Oh just in case

http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/allprods.php?flt=brands&vt=list&st=&search=&p=&hp=TomTom%2Cmfg%3DTomTom|Motorbike%2Ccategory_id%3 D171&op=cat&lprice=&hprice=&receiver=&category_id=171&mfg=TomTom

[Moo]

Wait and have a look at the tomtom rider thats what I would do it should be out soon.

[aimhamilton]

Tom Tom rider is reviewed in this months Ride magazine along with others....check it out! But at £600 that is serious money. I think there are better options out there for that money. The Garmin gets good reviews and is good money compared to a lot of others. I use Tom Tom 3 in my car and it works just fine...i got the whole system and software (including Ipaq PDA) for under £200....bargain!

Keep us updated on the thing and what bits you get to fit to it!!

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

Garmin quest is used in latest Ride magazine test (guy with it on his bike beats an experienced cabbie through Birmingham even though he has no knowledge of the streets and isn't allowed to program the GPS until the test starts) and seems to perform very well, easy to go between bike and car, etc. and not too fiddly to use. They list it as £396, so £330 is a blinding price, though it says a £40 motorcycle mount needs to be bought too.

Have thought of getting one of these as much for early Sunday morning rides as for travelling... they're getting so cheap. Not sure if I could stomach £600 for the tomtom... that's an awful lot extra, and how much more does it actually do for the money, apart from being a bit nicer to look at and use?? Looking forward to the reviews of it though.

[Diveboy]

I'm waiting for the Quest 2 as it has programmable POI's and more memory. I just cant pay £600 for a TOMTOM Rider its far to steep and I don't want to use my phone.

[drumwrecker]

This is the sort of thing I want http://www.clearercom.com/Helmetspeaker.htm
This site should be of interest http://www.pjbox.co.uk/ go to motorcyclist earphones section.
These are the Maplin version http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=noise%20reduction%20earphones&doy=8m9&source=15 I have tried fitting the sponge type earplug over them by burning a hole through them and ctting to length. It reduced the wind and road noise but not enough.
And this is another solution http://www.webbikeworld.com/Earplugs/earplugs-music.htm
I seem to remeber there was some talk on http://www.hbam.org.uk/index.php comparing the Garmin with the TomTom.
Trouble is it costs money to try all these solutions so mine have been very crude until I know what works

[Diveboy]

And this is another solution http://www.webbikeworld.com/Earplugs/earplugs-music.htm


These are pretty much what I can get. They fit in the ear much better than the Maplin ones.

[Anonymous]

Theres a good article in this months Ride magazine about sat nav devices they compare a few, and test sat nav against a taxi driver who knows the roads already!

Excellent read!

[RandyO]

Garmin 276C
waterproof- designed for marine use
large display screen - easier to rear, also designed for bright sunlight
fast processor

pricey, but prolly the best unit you will find for a bike

[tomjones2]

i have got a mio 168 running tomtom navigator and use a suction ram mount for the car windscreen and fork leg mount for the bike, also fitted a cigater lighter under the faring so i could run the power.

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

I bought a Garmin i3 in the end, and made up my own mount to use it on the bike.

Tiny, easy to see the screen though, great sound quality, NiMH batteries last for a good 8 hours with sound, not waterproof but a freezer bag and rubber band sorts that out. Not great for programming specific runs, but the map overview is great when riding (to see what the surrounding roads/countryside has to offer), the routing works faultlessly and it's easy to download speed cameras, petrol stations, etc. to it. Can pick the i3 up for £170 or less now, so it's a bargain - maybe not as flash as tomtom rider but at less than 3 times the cost I can live with that :D