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How exactly do you manage clutchless gear changes? managed a few the other night but not really sure what I was doing but when it did work it was really cool!!!! fancy it cos a friend has organized a little bit of "underground" drag racing out in the middle of nowhere and wanna show those little (rude) boys how its done properly ie, not in Vauxhall CHAValier or ford fiesta! :twisted:
what about a Impreza vs Sv?
Open, high rpm, close throttle and kick up, open as the gear selects.
Cluchless in cars is much harder but still quiet easy once you learn what rpms should be where. Not advised though.
wheelnut
28-08-05, 09:11 PM
I normally use clutchless changes, its just a case of having the revs matching the gearbox speeds for a smooth change
otherwise invest in a quickshifter :P
lol i always wanted to know how to do that im gona give it a try to moz
Think I managed it more through luck than anything!!! didn't have to let off very much at all just a nats fart! was very quick and smooth but if I did try it when I needed to I will prob f#*$k it up! Went up to "the secret location" last night but my mate who does the timing didn't turn up so there were just about 7 or 8 chav cars sitting around (says the guy with a pug 106 XSi!) :oops: Did see a K reg pug 205 beat a skyline GTs though first time I went up there!!!!
Clutchless in cars in not that hard, you learn pretty quick when either your clutch cable breaks (as it did on my fiesta when I had it) or the thrust plate gives up the ghost (as it did on my Pug 309 when I had it). Let off throttle and pop into neutral, guess what rpm you should be at (if you've been driving the car reasonably smoothly for any time this is fairly easy) and push, you will either be rewarded with another gear if you got it right or a horrid graunch if you didn't. Not recommended if you need to do long journeys in town, especially if you need to stop (slow down to nearly a stop, turn engine off, start it to get going again). Great fun.
Not tried on the bike yet, mainly cos I haven't broken the clutch (yet)
MT
what about a Impreza vs Sv?
Easy! My mate has a WRX Sti Type RA. A Jap import and one of the fastest Scoobies made for the open market. Does 0-60 in 4.6, SV figure is about 3.8 i think? Top speeds are roughly the same but the SV suffers in a head-on breeze more. I've not tried from standing start but keep up on open roads and leave him for dead in the twisties. :P
Mental for a cage tho. :twisted:
Professor
29-08-05, 07:24 AM
Many years ago my clutch broke when I was driving my car on the M25.
Despite the loss of clutch I managed to make it to Heathrow, park my
car, pick up the person I was meeting and make it all the way back
to Brighton.
Don't want to experiment with my bike though.
I've broke 2 clutch cables, one on my old GSX750 and the other on my yami XJ650. Very easy to do including shifting down again as you approach the lights. Stall the engine if you have to stop and push starter to get going again.
Clutchless shifts are an essential part of riding on the road for me, for quick progress it can't be beaten. I short shift up mostly without the clutch. Revs hardly going over 9K before I've backed off slightly and slipped it up a gear.
Down shifts mostly with clutch, no point in the extra wear and tear.
what about a Impreza vs Sv?
Easy! My mate has a WRX Sti Type RA. A Jap import and one of the fastest Scoobies made for the open market. Does 0-60 in 4.6, SV figure is about 3.8 i think? Top speeds are roughly the same but the SV suffers in a head-on breeze more. I've not tried from standing start but keep up on open roads and leave him for dead in the twisties. :P
Mental for a cage tho. :twisted:
The Scooby has grown on me quite alot mainly cos of the nice grumble from that engine configuration. Mitsubishi EVO looks sweet though. Trouble with scooby's is that there are sooooo many of them around now every other t*#*t on the road has one. Still want a Mitsubishi FTO personally, I have the bike for speed! :twisted:
most modern bikes are designed for clutchless changes whilst going up the box. just a case of adding some upward pressure on the shifter and dropping off the revs ever so slightly. you can almost always shift up clutchless though very low revs are not advised for smoothness. will make you a lot quicker and will save your clutch mechanism.
dont try going down clutchless tho because youll kill it.
Yeah tried that by mistake first time a jumped on a 125! was riding round a car park on CBT and was trying to get my coordination of clutch gear change etc after drivin car and forgot clutch!
Down shifts mostly with clutch, no point in the extra wear and tear.
I too wondered about this statement. Unless by wear and tear you mean destroying the bike one way or another you've lost me!
wheelnut
29-08-05, 10:29 PM
If you tell us where this secret rendezvous is, I will bring my truck and whoop the chavs arses up to 50 mph :D
If you tell us where this secret rendezvous is, I will bring my truck and whoop the chavs arses up to 50 mph :D
Truck??? as in "big rig" (oh how american!). Remember being very impressed by a racing truck at Matchams (Dorset), once.
If anyone is interested I would say that the event that takes place is ILLEGAL and if anyone did go down then they do so by their own judgment and I wont be held responsible!!!!! It's in a quiet section of the new forest (hampshire) not far from Ringwood so if anyone does want to know where it is then drop me a PM or something. :twisted: And yes there are often the Bournemouth chav cruisers down there and they just watched my bike rumble past as if it was something alien!!!! :roll:
northwind
30-08-05, 09:35 PM
To put it a different way, it's like the exact opposite of blipping for downchanges. Once you can do it, it's second nature.
To put it a different way, it's like the exact opposite of blipping for downchanges. Once you can do it, it's second nature.
Yet 100 times easier as you don't risk blipping into the car infront of you :-k
northwind
30-08-05, 10:29 PM
Very true :)
i can do it with out any problems now :) just no good at going down the gears doing it :wink:
jimmy4237
31-08-05, 09:05 PM
Don't try clutchless gearchanges in a 53 plate Mercedes Actros with the semi automatic ecu controlled clutch - it won't do it.... press the clutch down, wait for the beep, then lift your foot off the lorry clutch.. do it too quickly, and the ecu knocks the gearbox into neutral whilst it hunts for a suitable gear. Not what you want when you're overweight (gross 46 tonne, going downhill into a roundabout with traffic lights..... :shock: :shock: )
Give me a Daf XF 530 which you can "clutch" it downhills till the speedo is off the clock. (Just the thing to upset the asda boys tootling along on their 53mph speed limiters :twisted: :twisted: )
Or try driving a constant mesh 9 speed eaton 8 wheeler tipper when the clutch is buggered - Wheelnut can even tell you it ain't much fun getting the revs right for the gear and correct timing....
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