Exhaust compatibility

[Mark_h]

I've read the exhaust section and everyone seems to believe their exhaust is the best, but the general opinion is that most third party cans are better than the stock can.

Now, being a cheapscate I am looking for a second hand can to make my bike sound a bit better but not be too loud and so upset my neighbours in the morning.

A quick trawl through e-bay turned up loads of cans off of various bikes. This raised a question that I am sure one or more of you could answer for me.

What other bikes have the same diameter downpipe and geometry as an SV (2001 naked) to allow their aftermarket can to fit my bike?

The previous owner of my bike had a race can fitted for a while and then refitted the stock can (He sold the race can). So I have a stock can, a 6-inch link pipe then the stock downpipes. This suggests I could get a "universal" can, remove my can and link pipe and simply slip on the new one.

So the question is if someone has taken a nice remus or blue-flame off of say a hornet or a GSX would if fit my downpipe? Anyone got any tips or warnings I should bear in mind?

Cheers

[Graham]

The only thing wrong with the standard can is that It's too quiet, It's very good quality and stainless steel. Also being 5" diameter It sounds better than an after market can when debaffled, Very deep throaty rumble.

[PeterM]

Easy way to check would be to contact a few suppliers and see if there are specific pipes for certain bikes. I know there are with some, especially underseat varieties but they would be your best source.

[Six Chin Skinny]

IIRC, someone fitted an R1 can to their SV without major modification other than the usual cut and clamp. Don't remember the particulars or the outcome (jetting, performance)...

[Viney]

You have to use a can of the right dimensions and capacity or else the bike will run to lean etc. Using a can that is meant for another bike will bugger up the running!! IF youre a cheapskate, then get a viper. At around £100 all in, and a year warranty, it hardly seems the hassle of 'other bikes' cans :?

[BURNER]

Look on EB*Y for a slip on can of the correct diameter.
If you're worried about the neighbours fit a DB killer.

[northwind]

Most can manufacturers use only a couple of variants of their can to suit all bikes... CCC for instance, only change the link pipe or end cap (or did when I got mine, anyway) to suit the fitment on most bikes. ART were the same. Blue Flame too, I think, and Scorpion. Even Yoshimura and Akrapovic use only a very small number of different end cans. Not like me to disagree with Viney but I really don't think it's the case that many companies design their cans to work specifically with one bike, except where fitment requires it (underseats etc).

Still, it'll probably be far easier to get one designed for the SV, just from the fitment point of view...

[BURNER]

You may have issues with jetting and running after changing, unless you got for road legal, which is never the cheap option.

[Viney]

Most can manufacturers use only a couple of variants of their can to suit all bikes... CCC for instance, only change the link pipe or end cap (or did when I got mine, anyway) to suit the fitment on most bikes. ART were the same. Blue Flame too, I think, and Scorpion. Even Yoshimura and Akrapovic use only a very small number of different end cans. Not like me to disagree with Viney but I really don't think it's the case that many companies design their cans to work specifically with one bike, except where fitment requires it (underseats etc).

Still, it'll probably be far easier to get one designed for the SV, just from the fitment point of view...
You are right, i should have clarified. Most 4 Cyl bikes cans will be long and thin, twins run shorter/stubbier cans as a rule. Renegade make IIRC 5 lengths and 4 diameters making 20 variants!

[northwind]

Out of curiousity, how many of those possible variants does Jorge actually use?

[brolong22]

I was going to ask pretty much the same thing.
Is the can bike specific or is it just a case of finding the right link pipe.
I have an ART pro series II on my sv, so as an example would this work properly on say a zx6r or thundercat if you just changed the link pipe? or would it cause fueling problems?

[Jase22]

In my experience with cans I found that simply swapping the end can doesn't affect the engine a great deal. It has to be noted though, that my experience is based on carbed bikes and not fuel injected uns.

A 4 cylinder bike will tend to run a bit lumpy at low revs with a race can on though, but this seems to disappear the higher up the rev range you go and never caused me any problems when I had my CBR400 fitted with a race can.

As for the SV, mine actually runs better with a race can on it than with the standard one. I'm running with standard air filter, and there's no issue with the bike running too lean.

It was my understanding that the only difference in slip on cans for various bikes is the actual length of the can as all the end caps look pretty standard internal diameter to me?

[Marcos Santiago]

The only thing wrong with the standard can is that It's too quiet, It's very good quality and stainless steel. Also being 5" diameter It sounds better than an after market can when debaffled, Very deep throaty rumble.

I'd like to mention that the other thing that is "wrong" with the stock can is the weight. It is quite heavy, and fitting an aftermarket part will reduce the overall weight of the bike.

As for the original question, I'd look for a used can that is specific to the SV. Problems with the fitting may translate into leaks, and perhaps popping under desaceleration.

Marcos

[Jase22]

[quote=Graham]and perhaps popping under desaceleration.


Surely that's a good thing?? :twisted:

[kwak zzr]

tis the best thing!