View Full Version : Housemate Problems - What would YOU do?
Anonymous
18-01-06, 03:42 PM
Ok lads (and lasses) need something confirming to me.
The situation:
My house mate is signed into a 6 month Assured Shorthold Tennancy Agreement with me down as the landlord.
He works in a pub and earns £200 a week.
Just after christmas he slipped on ice (whilst ****ed out of his head) and damaged his arm (didnt break it, just sprained). And as such was signed off work by the Hospital until the 23rd January.
He was told that he could submit forms for his SSP and other benefits (rent, bills etc) to be paid on benefits. He has only today done this, even though ive been telling him to for weeks, and the council say its going to be 10 weeks before it comes through.
He insists that he has got no money spare, but yet hes out every night, getting smashed, clubbing, shagging around.
He is now 2 months behind in rent, but ive been giving him the benefit of the doubt, until i realised that he did have money as was getting taxi's everywhere, and was partying every night.
Ive told him today that he has until friday to clear his rent arrears (or at least 1 months of it). If he doesnt, im giving him the contractual one months notice of eviction. But he still needs to pay me:
a) the arrears of his rent
b) the months notice rent
c) his share of the bills for the last quarter as per the contract
So, i want to ask:
What would you have done in this situation? Have i acted fairly? Or do you think i have been a bit harsh?
Comments/advice/suggestions welcome please.
DanDare
18-01-06, 03:50 PM
I am have been in this situation many times as I am also a resident Landlord.
It's quite clear he's taking you for ride so I'd put an end to it straight away. Give the standard notice of termination on tenancy as he appears to of broken the tenancy agreement. ( Provided in this you have specified he must pay rent )
Hopefully you will of taken a deposit as well which should cover any rent arrears or unpaid bills, although you must supply him with the receipts for this.
I also read somewhere that you can obtain certain items as payment, but this is a very grey area so read up on any literature.
To help your situation resident Landlords have much more rights than non-resident so the law will be on your side.
Hope you manage to sort it, its no fun people taking the p***.
sharriso74
18-01-06, 03:53 PM
Sounds fair to me, looks like he's been taking the pi$$. I've always had the belief that if you can afford to go partying you can afford to pay your bills. Get fed up with the people I work with moaning they're not paid enough then in the same breath saying they've been out clubbing everynight that week.
Chapagne lifestyle on a beer income
Peter Henry
18-01-06, 04:23 PM
Your mate is a selfish sh*t,no question. Ultimatum to cough up or get out. I would also consider feeding him to an angry and ravenous pig! :wink:
Once people detect weakness they generally milk it as much as poss. I'd put the relevant process in hand if I were you.
Spiderman
18-01-06, 05:02 PM
As others have said he's taking the pee pee mate.
Worst part is that the DSS or whoever will only pay him from the time he went to them and are very unlikely to back date it unless the guy was in a coma and couldnt make it. Anything short of that they dont wanna hear. Also they only pay a proportion of his rent, not all.
So even if you did keep this joker on in the hope your total owed would show up....it prolly wouldnt.
Cut your losses and get the git out. He's only gonna be more trouble in the longer run.
Make sure you do it all according to the letter of the law tho. As tempting as it may get to just pack his bags and sling em out one day DONT DO IT cos it'll make life very hard for you from there.
Good luck with it tho.
Anonymous
18-01-06, 05:12 PM
As others have said he's taking the pee pee mate.
Worst part is that the DSS or whoever will only pay him from the time he went to them and are very unlikely to back date it unless the guy was in a coma and couldnt make it. Anything short of that they dont wanna hear. Also they only pay a proportion of his rent, not all.
So even if you did keep this joker on in the hope your total owed would show up....it prolly wouldnt.
Cut your losses and get the git out. He's only gonna be more trouble in the longer run.
Make sure you do it all according to the letter of the law tho. As tempting as it may get to just pack his bags and sling em out one day DONT DO IT cos it'll make life very hard for you from there.
Good luck with it tho.
Ah! Housemate said that the council told him that the full wack would be covered and it would be back dated. TBH i beleive you over him given the lies hes spun so far.
Thanks for that info spiderman... very much appreciated.
GYKD.
Your housemate, hes taking you for a ride and needs to be booted out. I'd try and fleece him for as much money as you can also.
I think you did the only thing that can be done. It's not nice to have the p*** taken out of you by a lodger/flatmate. I have been there too and threw them out in a less polite way thanyou have done. keep cool and do it right mate.
amarko5
18-01-06, 10:05 PM
Wow Someone got the DAZ out on this thread It's whiter than white now
locked then unlocked deletions and scrubbing tee hee :lol: :lol: :lol:
FWIW give him the red card Joe , he has taken you for a ride. there is no need to take the **** in this way at all. he has poo pooed in his own bed by doing the dirty, so it's time for you to wash the laundry and throw him out .
Spiderman
18-01-06, 10:10 PM
Erm yeh, so.
I'm curious why/where the AST came from GYKD. And do you own the place or are you sub letting?
Anonymous
19-01-06, 12:33 AM
Erm yeh, so.
I'm curious why/where the AST came from GYKD. And do you own the place or are you sub letting?
Not quite sure of the full details but basically:
My dad owns the property and its in his will that when he dies its mine (if its not transferred earlier to avoid the dreaded inheritance tax. But on all the legal documents im down as the landlord and ive AST'd the ramainding 2 rooms out as a resident land lord in accordance to mine and my dads solicitor.
Red ones
19-01-06, 06:00 AM
Make him pay - he is taking you for a ride. That ain't no mate!
Get him to really pay for it though, tell hiuim straight that whiilst he is partying and shagging around he is demonstrate the ability to pay, therefore he must tell you where the parties are!
You are being urinated on in my honest opinion. first of all evict the lil bugger, get your money back and then break his other arm so he truly is F*cked!
people like this **** me off! :rant:
*rant over*
Peter Henry
19-01-06, 07:04 AM
Indeed Marko....A most subtle piece of spring cleaning has gone on for sure! :lol: :lol: Be careful the Thought Police are watching you! :wink: That guy George Orwell did warn us all didn't he! :D :D :D
Supervox
19-01-06, 07:45 AM
I would also consider feeding him to an angry and ravenous pig! :wink:
Bad day at work PH ?? :D
But anyway, get shot of the sponging b*st*rd !!
my my this thread has been heavily edited. sorry, deleted!
whatever happened to freedom of speech.....
this place is changing. in the words of the song "fings aint what they used to be...."
my my this thread has been heavily edited. sorry, deleted!
whatever happened to freedom of speech.....
this place is changing. in the words of the song "fings aint what they used to be...."
it's like watching a really gripping film only for the video to have failed to record the last ten minutes!
anyway, probably for the best.....
Biker Biggles
19-01-06, 11:26 AM
Did I miss something contraversial?Too late as usual.What happened?Teddies leaving prams in large numbers?I'll just have to make up my own story line. :lol:
Anonymous
19-01-06, 11:52 AM
Did I miss something contraversial?Too late as usual.What happened?Teddies leaving prams in large numbers?I'll just have to make up my own story line. :lol:
I dont know either Biker B. I missed the whole thing.
All i know is ive had a load of messages of support :? guess it was something quite special.
:lol: for once i miss the excitment in my own thread.. and i wasnt here to argue back. :wink:
Peter Henry
19-01-06, 12:15 PM
* by the power of the Mod and his deleting wand*
They all lived happily ever after! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Anonymous
19-01-06, 12:30 PM
* by the power of the Mod and his deleting wand*
They all lived happily ever after! :lol: :lol: :lol:
:grouphug:
C'mon.. group hug... :wink: Even the person who started it all is invited. :wink:
Get him out and get your money back
Tell him you love him :lol:
sorry wrong thread... If he can afford to get ****ed he can afford to pay you...
Spiderman
19-01-06, 01:16 PM
my my this thread has been heavily edited. sorry, deleted!
whatever happened to freedom of speech.....
this place is changing. in the words of the song "fings aint what they used to be...."
I kinda agree with what you say mate. Always nice to be able to see what the bitching was all about after the fact, but i also respect the mods decision to clean this thread up as the original post was asking for advice and it would have been unfair to lock it for good without GYKD getting the advice he had asked for.
Shame the person involved hasnt had the decency to post an appology for derailing the thread or his attitude towards some, but thats his call i guess. :roll:
Anyhoo..... GYKD, in all this you may have not seen my question as to why there is an AST in force and who drew this up under what advice.
The g/f is gonna check her ARLA legal book to see what the situation is for resident landlords.
Also, do you own the place or rent it and are subletting. Questions she needs answers to before she can dig deeper for you on this.
Anonymous
19-01-06, 02:15 PM
Sorry spidey,
"...AST in force and who drew this up under what advice...
...Also, do you own the place or rent it and are subletting. Questions she needs answers to before she can dig deeper for you on this."
The house is my dads house, i live there and occupy one room. My dad charges me a fixed rate of rent, so i rent out the other two rooms to cover my costs. Im down on the documents as the resident landlord, and the rooms are let out on an AST. The documents were all drawn up by my dads solicitor, some one in York.. could try and find out if needed.
As far as I'm aware, its all legal.
In terms of eviction, some one gave me this information:
"If the tenant has a common law tenancy, (e.g. where there is a resident landlord in the same building, the let is a company let, or the annual rent is more than £25000) again, different rules will apply and you should take legal advice"
Any more info required just ask fella. Thanks for your help.
GYKD.
Spiderman
19-01-06, 04:45 PM
Sorry spidey,
"...AST in force and who drew this up under what advice...
...Also, do you own the place or rent it and are subletting. Questions she needs answers to before she can dig deeper for you on this."
The house is my dads house, i live there and occupy one room. My dad charges me a fixed rate of rent, so i rent out the other two rooms to cover my costs. Im down on the documents as the resident landlord, and the rooms are let out on an AST. The documents were all drawn up by my dads solicitor, some one in York.. could try and find out if needed.
As far as I'm aware, its all legal.
In terms of eviction, some one gave me this information:
"If the tenant has a common law tenancy, (e.g. where there is a resident landlord in the same building, the let is a company let, or the annual rent is more than £25000) again, different rules will apply and you should take legal advice"
Any more info required just ask fella. Thanks for your help.
GYKD.
imho, taking all of the above into consideration you may find its easier for your dad as the owner of the property to serve notice to ALL the residents and say its because he plans to return to live in the property.
You have a grey area by not being the owner and resident landlord at the same time.
But i'll get the g/f to tell me more tonite.
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