so you all thought hyosung were pooo?

[Itching 2 go]

well I did, then i found this on an american web site, I have no Idea if it is available over here but God 'amn that looks good and a whapping 79bhp too 8) http://66.34.10.50/hyosung/GT650-R.html

[mysteryjimbo]

It looks like they can't be original. Its a GSXR fairing on a curvy SV aint it? :lol:

[Peter Henry]

If you like the SV then surely it is difficult to actually dislike the Hyosung? Ok so it has carbs as opposed to injection but it does have upside down forks!
I think we are going to see the likes of Hyosung,Kymco,Petronas and other far eastern companies providing ongoing and ever more seerious competition to the Japanese manufacturers.

You think I am wrong? Well when the Jap bikes first hit the U.K.(I was not there but I have read!) people used to mock them, as they did with the first Jap cars. But hey look where we are today. :wink:

[rictus01]

Even given the fact it's all true,theirs still the question(s) over build quality, spares, resale, not to mention down the pub :oops:

unless you were going to ride it to death,didn't care what others think,and were prepared to except minimum past ex, I think the SV is still a better bet.

Cheers Mark.

[Itching 2 go]

unless you were going to ride it to death,didn't care what others think,and were prepared to except minimum past ex, I think the SV is still a better bet.

Cheers Mark.so its a bike 4 u then mark?

[Peter Henry]

Rictus valid points you make,but again I harp back to the days of the demise of the British bike industry due to the way in which the threat from the Japanese was waved away as something that would not last. Also it is only in recent years that the build quality of Jap bikes has approached anything like acceptable levels.

In fairness we still see many comments regarding the poor quality of build offered by Suzuki? :?

[mysteryjimbo]

Yep, italian bikes are so much more reliable.... :lol:

[Peter Henry]

Mystery Jimbo wrote:

Yep, italian bikes are so much more reliable

Good of you to say so mate! :wink: :)

[rictus01]

unless you were going to ride it to death,didn't care what others think,and were prepared to except minimum past ex, I think the SV is still a better bet.

Cheers Mark.so its a bike 4 u then mark?

Indeed, if it had been about when I first looked (march 2002) then if the price was right, it could have been a possibility.

Rictus valid points you make,but again I harp back to the days of the demise of the British bike industry due to the way in which the threat from the Japanese was waved away as something that would not last. Also it is only in recent years that the build quality of Jap bikes has approached anything like acceptable levels.

In fairness we still see many comments regarding the poor quality of build offered by Suzuki? :?

I agree to a certain point, but a couple of point come to mind, firstly a new bigger big from the company, I'd probably leave it a year or so just to see how they go, and secondly (and I think this is more relevent to the SV riders), for most it's a first (big) bike or close to it and they want something proven, it won't sell to the power rangers as it's not powerful enough, so where does that leave it? the only thing which could swing it currently is price.

However given a few more years, you could well be right :!:

Cheers Mark.

[Peter Henry]

Rictus...I bow to your sage like comments mate! :wink: I fully agree that ducati/Honda et al could in a few years be just "old news". Competition has got to be good for the consumer hasn't it? :? :)

[Foey]

Mystery Jimbo wrote:

Yep, italian bikes are so much more reliable

Good of you to say so mate! :wink: :)


Didn't know BMW were italian. :lol:

[Peter Henry]

Foey...You are a bad,bad boy. :)

[rictus01]

Rictus...I bow to your sage like comments mate! :wink: I fully agree that ducati/Honda et al could in a few years be just "old news". Competition has got to be good for the consumer hasn't it? :? :)

I'm all for consumer savings, even love the hobbiest element.

I remember a time when you brought a bike on it's condition, didn't matter what age it was or what model year, but now, given the "leisure" status of motorcycling, i can buy a 3 year old bike with 10,000 miles on it for peanuts :lol: .

More for your money, yes please.

Cheers Mark.

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

Looking at their other bikes, surely Suzuki are going to sue over the GT650S. Shameless SV copy!

[Itching 2 go]

Looking at their other bikes, surely Suzuki are going to sue over the GT650S. Shameless SV copy!how can they if all components are different
even the suspension is better, suzuki seem ****e in the light of the hyosung, obviously you would have to take this comment on all models that compete with each other. there is no gsxr equivelant for example.

[Stormspiel]

I had the XRX Trailie before i passed my test.....DR125 copy engine...better forks...disk brakes. Couldn't fault it mechanically but the finish on some parts was a bit iffy.

They have been doing this bike for a while now without the fairing....It was pitted against the sv650n a while ago and didn't compare on any level. The forks were better only to be let down by the shoddy front brakes...The power delivery was "crap" as they put it, very jumpy....All in all they said it just wasn't as "refined" as the Sv and only a small difference in price.

Does look good though.

[wyrdness]

Available in Electric Mango Yellow. Now that has to be the fastest colour!

[Jools]

I had a Hyosung GT125, and still have one, before getting my pointy SV. The comet is a great bike and served me really well. It is let down by the build quality though and a lot of the parts fitted as standard (chain and sprockets, brake pads, levers, switches, cables ect.) are Really poor!! (cheap!)

The bikes look great, as everyone seems to agree, but i would not go down the Hyosung route again at the moment. I had a pretty bad experience with my local dealer. I bought it from new and they are the only dealer within 50 miles or so of my house so i got them to do all the servicing for me. They were, how shall i put it nicely, a bunch of cowboys. Knowing nothing about bikes or dealers or mechanics i trusted them. Things like air filler caps and the odd screw would mysteriously dissapear whenever they touched the bike and when questioned they always said, It wasn't there when it came in, which i know isn't true. I had a pretty bad experience when my missus dropped the bike during her CBT. The chain was very worn, but the bike had been serviced by said dealer about 2 months previous to this event. At the time i had asked them whether i needed to fit a new chain, they replied not worth it at this point in time. So two months later and one spill at 1/2 a mile and hour and the chain literally disintigrated and fell off the sprockets!! When the guy from the bike school looked at it he could not believe that i had been advised that it didn't need replacing!! :shock: :evil:

My point is that although the bikes may be good and fun to ride and pretty cheap, you don't get any kind of support and other garages wont service them because they don't have lists of prarts ect. It may well be that in a couple of years companies like Hyosung (which by the way, is run by a load of ex suzuki bods) will be all the rage. but at the moment i am affraid they are just cheaper imitations with no support and are just not quite as good as the Jap bikes. IME

[Ceri JC]

Bike commented on the Hyosung comet this month. Something to the effect, "If you're expecting it to be anywhere near as good as the SV that it mimics, you'll be sorely disappointed. It's not even much cheaper."

[Foey]

Foey...You are a bad,bad boy. :)


My mummy just says i'm special. :lol:

[Biker Biggles]

Got to agree with jools.My son has a 125 Comet which he bought secondhand and very cheap.As a cheap hack it is a bargain but it suffers from those build quality faults jools mentioned.Truely abysmal chain life(10,000 km)and worse brake pad life(fronts last about4,000km).Front disc needed changing at 12,000km and fork sliders are prone to rust.Son will be selling it shortly and has his beady eye on an SV650-----My SV650!

[Moo]

For the price you pay may as well buy a SV 650 S. :lol:

[Jools]

my chain too was 10,000k! shoddy to say the least!

Viva la SV, much better and not much more!

[northwind]

There's a big logic error going here, the assumption that USD forks are automatically better than the SVs. Every review of the Hyosang has slated the front end- crap USD is still worse than merely mediocre RWU.

As for 80bhp, that's just cobblers.

The main problem with the Hyosang is that it's barely cheaper than the SV, but the residuals will be worse- if you sell after a year you'll pay more for the Hyosang due to its more rapid depreciation.

[Peter Henry]

B.B...You got a son old enough to be sniffing after your SV? Strewth you must have been deflowered in infant school mate! :wink:

[Anonymous]

Available in Electric Mango Yellow. Now that has to be the fastest colour!

No arguments there from me 8)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[chutz]

There's a big logic error going here, the assumption that USD forks are automatically better than the SVs. Every review of the Hyosang has slated the front end- crap USD is still worse than merely mediocre RWU.

As for 80bhp, that's just cobblers.

The main problem with the Hyosang is that it's barely cheaper than the SV, but the residuals will be worse- if you sell after a year you'll pay more for the Hyosang due to its more rapid depreciation.

\:D/

I agree dude. It looks good on paper but look more carefully. I have read reviews on the 650 Hyosung and they said it was very rough compared to an sv. The 79 bhp is actually only 70 at the rear wheel on that site which isn't gonna blow the sv away by any stretch of the imagination. I welcome to competition though, who knows, maybe suzuki will improve the sv's build quality in response and make it the bike it deserves to be.

[northwind]

Think the Kwak ER-6 is more likely to have that effect... Any competitions's good though, the SV's been top dog in a field of one for too long.

[Sid Squid]

I've ridden a Hyosung, the unfaired GT650.

Prepare for a shock: Magazine articles aren't always very good examples of unerring objective journalism, sorry. Next to the latest fastest spiffingest hyper GSZR1500 the Hyosung probably feels crap, (but then get off a new ZX10 and try an SV it may feel a little underwhelming), I think the journalistic treatment of Hyosung's bikes has been a bit unfair

Sid Squid's Utterly Personal And Probably Not Very Objective Hyosung 650 Review:
(To Be Read Whilst Bearing In Mind That I Know SV650s Very Well.)

Hyosung GT650: (Drum roll please) It's OK. That doesn't seem to say much for it does it? Read on.

It's nowhere near as rough and ready as might have been suggested, not perfect and the forks aren't wonderful, but here's the killer; they ain't so very different in capability to the SV's bouncy bits, rear is fine. My personal seat-of-the-pants dyno says the engine makes about the same power as an SV, give or take a bit, possibly a bit torquier in the middle, perhaps not quite as smooth though, but not bad by any measure. Brakes are just fine - every bit a match for the SV's, feel fine too. Riding position is good, seat slightly bigger but a dab harder, comfort is very personal thing of course, but it fitted me fine (5'8" 12.5 stone). Didn't like the clocks, switchgear is the same as loadsa Jap bikes thus modern and neat.
Finish I can't comment about, the one I rode looked fine but then it was near new so it should have been.

Overall you'd never mistake it for an SV, but it's a whole lot better than certain sources may have led you to believe.

[northwind]

Hum, TBH every review I've seen that was Hyosang vs Suzuki, it's always doen not badly- I've never really seen the Hyosang take a complete beating. But mostly they come to the same conclusion, it's not cheap enough to justify getting one over the SV.

Don't care for either Comet but the Italjets that were in that other thread last week are lovely.