Digital Gear Indicator

[Thaleshwar]

Hi,

Was wondering are Digital Gear Indicator any good? can it be fitted to SV650S K2? will appreciate some comments, as I feel it will be really help me to know exactly what gear I am in it and in what I should be in...

[Sid Squid]

A number of people have fitted them, with more success on curvies than pointies - so your curvy K2 should be OK, but, and I'm guessing that you're a relative novice, as you get more experience with any given bike the necessity to know, (number wise), which gear you're in will be reduced.

As you get more practice you'll just knock 'em about as you need to.

[rictus01]

Indeed I had one fitted to my K2, seem to remember they gave two possible wiring hookups and it was the second that worked, can't be much more help than that I'm afraid, although I do know they do loom plugin kits for some bike (pay extra) which make the whole thing a five minute job, don't know whether the SV has a loom kit though?

Cheers Mark.

[Thaleshwar]

A number of people have fitted them, with more success on curvies than pointies - so your curvy K2 should be OK, but, and I'm guessing that you're a relative novice, as you get more experience with any given bike the necessity to know, (number wise), which gear you're in will be reduced.

As you get more practice you'll just knock 'em about as you need to.

Many thanks... I think you are very much right I am very much novice for the new generation motor bikes and the country.. may be as you suggested I shall knock 'em as I need to just as I do for the car.. seems you always are spot on..

[northwind]

How much are they? Veypor includes a gear indicator, and does lots of other stuff too... More expensive, but substantially cooler ;)

[Brucey]

But sadly still uses the mikey mouse geussing game for what gear your in I have built a gear position indicator which uses the K3 Gps sensor no programing required and it knows what gear your in when the clutch is in unlike the above.

[northwind]

There's nothing mickey mouse about that... Why would you ever use a gear position indicator while you're slipping the clutch? As long as it's accurate under drive, it does the job.

[Mr Toad]

Why would you ever use a gear position indicator while you're slipping the clutch? As long as it's accurate under drive, it does the job.

Because if you stop at the lights, you want reminding whether you're in first or second. I have 105 sets of traffic lights on my commute into work :shock: (I couldn't get to sleep one night, so I mentally went through my journey & counted them :oops: ), and sometimes you do forget.

It also got confused quite often, and the was a noticable delay between gears

[northwind]

If I stop at the lights, I'm in neutral. That's what it's for. Who stops in second?

[rictus01]

Why would you ever use a gear position indicator while you're slipping the clutch? As long as it's accurate under drive, it does the job.

Because if you stop at the lights, you want reminding whether you're in first or second. I have 105 sets of traffic lights on my commute into work :shock: (I couldn't get to sleep one night, so I mentally went through my journey & counted them :oops: ), and sometimes you do forget.

It also got confused quite often, and the was a noticable delay between gears

Get a Speed Triple, it doesn't matter which gear, pulls like a train anyway :lol:

Cheers Mark.

[Brucey]

I have a Busa which will make a speed triple look like a moped but still need a gear postion indicator as allways feels like its in fifth when riding in top.

[rictus01]

I have a Busa which will make a speed triple look like a moped but still need a gear postion indicator as allways feels like its in fifth when riding in top.

Whilst I'll freely admit the Speed triple doesn't have the top end of a busa, I'd hardly call it a moped (though some of the mopeds are plastic rocket shaped,more busa'esk, than real bikes) although I suppose you'd have to be able to go fast to double back for the corner you couldn't get around (but the moped could :wink: ).

I admire Suzuki for making it, much as I admire Triumph for the Rocket 3, but beyond being able to, it's a bit pointless. real world, in that league, blackbird is more practicle, ZX12 more sporty, but all untltimately superfulous, donate the engine to a kit car would be my best suggestion :lol:

Cheers Mark.

[Brucey]

Spoken like a man who has never ridden a Busa in the real world.
My referance was to the Torque The Busa produces over 102 foot pounds a lot more than the Triumph, ZX12R and the old Blackbird.
You still never know if your in top on any of these bikes so a gear position indicator is a usefull device IMHO.

[northwind]

if you don't know when you're in top, you need to work a bit more on your knowledge of the bike IMO... I rode about on a GSX1400, which makes more torque again than a Busa IIRC, and a ZX12, and after 2 or 3 attempts to go into top once already in it, I never did it again. I suppose it just comes easier to some people than others.

[Brucey]

The problem is I ride a SV650 and the Busa so you do feel like there has to be another gear when ridding the Busa agreed if I rode just one bike it would be easier.
Also when doing flyers on the Busa you can waste a lot of time and speed looking for another gear as you dont have the time to work out engine Revs/ speed.

[northwind]

Hang on, we are talking about a bike that can break all our speed limits in second gear, right? ;)

[Brucey]

Well actually it will do 83mph in first with stock gearing :roll:

[rictus01]

Spoken like a man who has never ridden a Busa in the real world.

You're right I suppose an airstrip isn't the real world.


My referance was to the Torque The Busa produces over 102 foot pounds a lot more than the Triumph.
Not from stand still, and your busa is geared wrong to make the most of it so you can have that top end.

on the subject of gear selection, It's one of those things as Northy says, you find it in short order when getting on a new (to you bike) then don't have a problem again, I can see it being of use to novices or perhaps speed runs/racing when you've got much more focus on other things, but on the road you should keep the bike in an responsive gear at all time, doesn't matter which one if you can't feel it you run the risk of not have the throttle response to get you out of trouble, don't think I'd like to ride like that, or trust something that could turn into a random number generator at anytime :shock: .

other than that is just a "look good bit" (hark whos talking :oops: ).

Cheers Mark.

[northwind]

Well actually it will do 83mph in first with stock gearing :roll:

Must be handy, that...

[Brucey]

The GSX1400 barley makes 92 ft lbs of torque. and haff all Bhp.

[northwind]

Stock, you're right... How many GSXs are stock?

Anyhow. The point is, you only need a gear indicator if you don;t know your bike well enough to know what gear you're in. And you only need a gear indicator at the traffic lights if you make a habit of stopping in anything other than first or neutral. It's a hardware upgrade to compensate for a software failing.

[johnnyrod]

Indeed

[Skip]

The Firestorm I rode this weekend had one of these gear indicators on it - to be honest even though the bike was new to me, I didnt see the point of it, you always roughly know what gear you are in so it was more a novelty to see it in front of you - it was pretty accurate too....

Wouldnt personally bother tho...

[Peter Henry]

Mr "Bling" pops in to comment! :wink: I always pull up in second and then snick her in to neutral. Getting away from Jerez last week in tight traffic made my left wrist feel like it was going to explode,(not sure if this was all to do with the hydraulic clutch or me being out of practice) I was relieved to get it in to neutral asap any time we stopped!

I agree with Northy in that once you are familiar with your bike,a glance at speedo and rev counter should easily help you assess which gear you are in. 8)

[thor]

I used to think that a gear indicator would be nice, but now I just don't think it's neccessary.

If you've not got enough torque, change down. If the engine is screaming, change up. When you can't change up any more, you're in top. When you can't change down any more, you're in first. Neutral is half up from first. Simple.

[Cloggsy]

I agree with Northy in that once you are familiar with your bike,a glance at speedo and rev counter should easily help you assess which gear you are in. 8)

Rev counter, what's one of them :?: :oops:

Not got one on Katie :roll:

[Skip]

If you've not got enough torque, change down. If the engine is screaming, change up. When you can't change up any more, you're in top. When you can't change down any more, you're in first. Neutral is half up from first. Simple.

Works for me! :lol:

[Peter Henry]

Cloggsy wrote:

Rev counter, what's one of them

Not got one on Katie

No good for you boys anyway as normally your looking skyward due to all of those wheelies! :P :P :P

[Biker Biggles]

I've never had use of a gear indicater but I do feel it could be useful.That elusive seventh gear I sometimes look for on the motorway would be a thing of the past and it might remove some uncertainty at times.
PH----Left wrist fit to explode due to lack of practice?What can I say?Probably the less the better :oops:

[lukemillar]

Personally I wouldn't go out and fit one to the SV but if I bought a bike with a gear indicator built into the clocks, then would probably would glance at it once in a while because it's there!

oh and what does IIRC mean?

[Skip]

oh and what does IIRC mean?

If I Remember Correctly :D

[K]

I've sold a few, yet have never seen the point of them really myself.

I personally feel they encourage lazy riding in the same way reversing sensors encourage lazy driving - just open you eyes and learn how to feckin' park your car OK. :evil: :wink:

[Grinch]

Jax duke never had a rev counter, you worked out what gear you needed by how much your ears where bleeding. To much noise then time for a gear change.

As for the SV as lights the only time I'm in gear as when I see the other lights changing to red. The rest of the time its in netural, I can scratch my **** or something freely then.

[ophic]

I'd really prefer a 7th gear, tbh :D