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branny
10-02-06, 09:53 AM
Morning.
As i posted previously... i have a puncture on my rear continental tyre.
this tyre was fitted last year when i bought the bike.... it has plenty of tread left, therefore i dont REALLY wanna replace it......

so.... puncture repair.... is it safe??? obviously, i value my life more than the £100 to get a new tyre. :wink:

any comments here appreciated.

thanks 8)

Viney
10-02-06, 09:55 AM
I used to have 3(max) in my old tyre and it was fine. all happened in the early life of the tyre. As long as its a professional one, then i dont see any probalems arising.

HTH

Last Action Pimp
10-02-06, 10:11 AM
som companys of tyers say you have to replace them, apart from mitchilin as they have shares in a tyre repairs,

so yes you can but the patch must be no more than 6mm wide and not on the edge of the tyre (if you saw the shape of the plug you know) i have my old tyre that has a puncture and i will get that pluged when the one i replaced it with runs out. alsong as you have no more than one its safe (acording to the TUV standerds (German MOT Very strict))

branny
10-02-06, 10:21 AM
ok...... do we know any places that will repair the tyres?

ive rung around and lots of people are saying they wont do it... :?


im starting to think i should buy a new tyre :(



im in preston BTW

rictus01
10-02-06, 10:33 AM
As an example (and copy at your own risk) I put in a temp repair (sticky string type) on the way to a trackday a few years back, after worrying for a couple of sessions, I forgot all about it.

Finally changed the tyre about 4.5k later ( :shock: ), didn't have a problem and still airtight at the end, Oh, and just in case you might think I was taking it easy?

Don't know how :!: so the recommendations, something like 40 mph for 200 mile, are way below what you can get away with.

On a more responsible note, I still carry a repair kit (yes I have the NCI thingy and a brother with a bike trailer), of the 12 repair strips in my set (carried under the saddle) I've used 8, 7 of those on other peoples bikes, if you don't have a kit you can't help :shock:

Cheers Mark.

johnny ro
10-02-06, 01:01 PM
Most shops would rather not polish your bike or repair a tire and many dont really know how anyway.

Cost to do it right is not so much less than replacement. The warning below about speedrating is intended for court battles after doing it wrong. This is Bridgestone USA speaking below-



-Repairs of all tires (radial and non-radial) must be of the plug and inside patch type. -Using plugs alone on any type of tire is not a safe repair.
-Never repair a tire with a puncture or other damage outside the tread area. Such tires cannot be properly repaired and must be replaced.
-Any tire repair done without removing the tire from the rim is improper.
-Tubes, like tires, should be repaired only by a qualified tire service person.
-Never use a tube as a substitute for a proper repair.
-A tire's speed rating is void if the tire is repaired, retreaded, damaged or abused, or otherwise altered from its original condition. Thereafter, it should be treated as a non-speed-rated tire.

rictus01
10-02-06, 01:37 PM
I love this one, new tyre on bike ride out of shop, not longer original condition, your ZR rated tyre is now slower :wink: priceless.


-A tire's speed rating is void if the tire is repaired, retreaded, damaged or abused, or otherwise altered from its original condition. Thereafter, it should be treated as a non-speed-rated tire.


Cheers Mark.

ash
10-02-06, 01:43 PM
I did 9k on a pugged tyre no problems

jambo
10-02-06, 02:19 PM
Don't sweat :wink:

Found a 2" screw sticking out of my back tyre on Sunday (Rictus, that'll explain the vauge feeling at the rear I'd noticed then!)

After having been one of the very grateful recipients of a Rictus Tyre repair a year or so ago, I always carry a Kit, had it patched in a few minutes and have been commuting on it all week without loosing any air. On Saturday I will take it to Sones Tyre in Croydon where he will patch it, I will then trust it as much as I did before.

Had several punctures repaired over the years and never had an issue, as long as it's properly done, with a patch from the inside of the tyre it's as good as it was before!

A good place won't patch it if it's unsafe to do so.

timwilky
10-02-06, 02:24 PM
I was looking at tire pluggers (http://www.stopngo.co.uk/) are these overkill for a temp repair leave under the seat solutions?. compared to the cheap plug/rubber cement kits

Viney
10-02-06, 02:27 PM
ok...... do we know any places that will repair the tyres?

ive rung around and lots of people are saying they wont do it... :?


im starting to think i should buy a new tyre :(



im in preston BTW

Hmmm, they should do. you will need a motorcycle tyre repair shop though. Car places wont touch them.

jambo
10-02-06, 02:39 PM
ok...... do we know any places that will repair the tyres?

ive rung around and lots of people are saying they wont do it... :?

im in preston BTW

Ask www.yell.co.uk about "Motorcycle Tyre" outfits in your area

Tire Plugger looks fine but any Puncture repair kit for motorcycles is ok. I forget what I use as the paperwork and plastic fell appart long ago and it lives in 3 carrier bags under the seat now.

timwilky
10-02-06, 03:15 PM
ok...... do we know any places that will repair the tyres?

ive rung around and lots of people are saying they wont do it... :?


im starting to think i should buy a new tyre :(



im in preston BTW

Hmmm, they should do. you will need a motorcycle tyre repair shop though. Car places wont touch them.


If it is the city of preston and not one of those villages calling themselves preston, try Sharrocks on Leyland Road, Penwortham (Thats who I use) 01772 744392 or slingers suzuki dealers on Waterloo road Preston 01772 727213.

Captain Nemo
10-02-06, 03:54 PM
from what i remember the British standard (cant recall which one) prohibits any repairs on tyres above a certain speed rating, and from what i remember the SV's tyres are rated well above the recomended maximum, i had the link to the standard somewhere ill try to find it out.

rictus01
10-02-06, 04:10 PM
from what i remember the British standard (cant recall which one) prohibits any repairs on tyres above a certain speed rating, and from what i remember the SV's tyres are rated well above the recomended maximum, i had the link to the standard somewhere ill try to find it out.

No one would go over 70 mph anyway, it's the law you know :wink:

will
10-02-06, 04:51 PM
sod's law - just had to call out The Cavalry to fix my front.

embee
10-02-06, 04:56 PM
While I was hunting around for info on what's the best kit to carry "in case of emergency", I found a US website for BMW owners, and some of those chaps do big touring mileage.

They wholeheatrtedly recommended the sticky string type plugs in preference to the rubber types for "temporary" roadside repairs. Several of them siad they had never had one of those leak, whereas the rubber plug types can be a bit hit and miss.

I got a kit from M&P with this type of sticky string things (look a bit like a thin dog t#rd). Haven't had to use them yet.

I have used some liquid sealant for a very small panel pin puncture through a nearly new Conti RA full depth tread, and it's not lost a single psi (yet 8-[ ). That stuff was the sealant sold by Smart for their cars without a spare wheel. It's made by Continental so ought to be decent. NOTE Continental do not recommend it for motorcycle use (to cover their own backs).

I'm watching it closely, but can't help feeling it'll be as secure as a "proper" repair but purely because it was a very thin panel pin perpendicular through the full tread, which leaked only slowly before applying the sealant anyway.