Kids are stupid

[diamond]

Funniest thing i've seen all weekend. (sorry if you've seen it before but i don't get out much.)

Volume up for full effect :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/p.swf?video_id=kKGxaol4qws&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//static13.youtube.com/get_still.php%3Fvideo_id%3DkKGxaol4qws%A8

[Jelster]

But to carry on filming when he was obviously upset, and then pass the video on ? That's really, really bad....

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[diamond]

But funny :lol:

[Shinsei Jutsu]

I can't see it, and I want to laugh! :(

[timwilky]

Yes kids are stupid. But only when they don't learn from experience or from the advice of others.

This video is just cruel. Whoever is filming knows the kid is coinging to be frightened and continues to film once he runs away crying.

[Spiderman]

PMSL :lol: :lol:
stoopid cry baby :lol:

[Demonz]

Yes kids are stupid. But only when they don't learn from experience or from the advice of others.

This video is just cruel. Whoever is filming knows the kid is coinging to be frightened and continues to film once he runs away crying.

Agree. Stupidest thing i've seen for a while. Poor kid.

[Tigerrrr.......]

Oh yeah. Really funny.

So, would you still be peeing your pants laughing if that were your child?

Some people need to grow up.

Poor kid.

[diamond]

So, would you still be peeing your pants laughing if that were your child?



Yes

[TC3]

The guy who filmed that and sent it out is just a w@nker in my opinion.

[Daimo]

Aye, another example of how some peopel are too stupid to have kids.

The clip on the computer is funny, seen it before, but I wouldn't keep filming my kid, especially as he looks scared as feck.... :roll:

[diamond]

We're all very sensitive this morning.

[tricky]

Charles Mansons guide to parenting ?
Evil bugger.

[Mogs]

Made me jump, then laugh - but it realy is a horid thing to do to a child.

[Spiderman]

Is it just me and E.D. who have a warped sense of humour today or something??

Any of you lot consider it could be an older brother or sister who's filming and not a really bad parent?
And whats he crying for so long for anyway.

I only cried for a few seconds when i had the same thing happen to me a while ago :lol:

[Scoobs]

I only cried for a few seconds when i had the same thing happen to me a while ago :lol:

:lol: :lol:

You **** Spidey

:lol: :lol:

[jim@55]

iwatched something similiar(may have been on here ,,about a test drive IIRC)same response (**** my pants ,but no crying! aye right :wink: )

[rwoodcock01]

Sorry Ed,

although funny on the outside, you could see that it triggered the fight or flee effect on the poor lad, to trigger such a deep rooted and acient fear (It is contained in everyone of us) is just wrong in a child that is to young to understand what is going on.

Certainly he would have learned from that experience, but he have learned the right thing? Or what damage could have been done to the kid.

Most kids, just bounce back. There are ones this would not.

We don't wrap kids up in cotton wool, but as parents you help them learn from things to deal with life later on.

Sorry Ed, I have nothing against you, but the person filming that was wrong in my mind.

Cheers

Rich

[diamond]

Is it just me and E.D. who have a warped sense of humour today or something??


Looks like it is. :twisted:
What a sissy of a kid, I'd understand if it was a real person jump out on him but it's on the tv

[Peter Henry]

I have to agree.e.d. you should be ashamed of yourself and Spidey also. There is nothing what so ever funny about scaring a kid like that. Plus the ******** who filmed and then posted it on the internet.

What this boils down to is the selfish and uncaring nature people can have. I doubt very much you would ever do such a disgusting trick on a child of your own. :twisted:

That is not being sensitive that is me being totally frank. 8)

[diamond]

What this boils down to is the selfish and uncaring nature people can have. I doubt very much you would ever do such a disgusting trick on a child of your own. :twisted:


Oh i most definatly would, i would also feed it a slice of lemon when it was eating a satsuma, i'm afraid i just like a laugh and i don't like sissy's.

What can i say i'm a fan of you've been framed, i've seen far worse on there.

[Daphne]

Is it just me and E.D. who have a warped sense of humour today or something??


Looks like it is. :twisted:
What a sissy of a kid, I'd understand if it was a real person jump out on him but it's on the tv


I'm not too proud to say I reacted in the same way as that kid when I was sent something similar. It took me half an hour and a good coffee to calm down.

It depends what you are expecting and what your personal history is. When I was sent it, the original e-mail asked me to look for differences between the 2 pictures. When the final picture popped up with the sound effects it echoed around the small room I was in and enveloped me with screaming and awful sounds. I've had some awful things happen in the past and the memories came flooding back. Who's to say this kid didn't feel the same thing.

Some would, some wouldn't see it as a joke. Whoever filmed the kid should have stopped filming as soon as it was clear he didn't see it as a joke.

Daphne

[Peter Henry]

e.d...Judging by your retort,it would be difficult to determine in your mentioned scenario which individual was the biggest child. Grow up.

[diamond]

e.d...Judging by your retort,it would be difficult to determine in your mentioned scenario which individual was the biggest child. Grow up.

There's been a real sense of humour failure round here today. And I don't think i wanna grow up thanks all the same.

[Anonymous]

Been watching this thread closely.. i watched the film and i laughed too. Then held back from posting as i knew what the reaction would be towards those who said that they found it funny.

People are saying "should be ashamed, would never do that to your own kid" etc.

The fact of the matter is... my folks did that and much worse to me as a little kid, some of the things really scared the bejesus out of me. Some of the tricks they played, still to this day, leave me with deep routed fears when that situation shows its head again.... which is a good thing.

Cos its some of the situations where if i was too confident, i may end up getting hurt. Like i found my house door forced open one night. Years ago my dad played a trick on me where he hid in the house, and id walked everywhere looking for him, before he jumped out of a cupboard at me. I think i cried for about 10 days following that. But now, im very cautious when in that similar position.

The kid will bounce back from it. And when hes older, he'll pull some practical joke on his old man too.

The world is NOT a nice place, its nasty, unfair, and at times just down right cruel... the sooner kids learn this, the more prepared they are for the real world.

[diamond]

Well said GYKD, i had far worse done to me by my parents and my brothers and sisters as a kid.

Apart from the limp, the stutter and the constant nightmares i'm no worse for it. :lol:

[Peter Henry]

Joe and e.d if you both suffered as children then I empathise with you. I too had a brutish father who meted out discipline with a 3'' leather belt not funny I can tell you.

However to cite that as any kind of justification to toughen up our own kids is utter and complete nonsense. Neither of you are parents,(to my knowledge) and this is blissfully clear. No caring parent would ever subject their own child to the experiences and pain that they themselves suffered. It just doesn't work that way.

Stating that the world is a nasty place and there are lots of cruel things out there serves no value at all. The point regarding that video clip is the boy should not have been subjetced to such mental distress in his own home.

Far from being a sissy father, I have through explanation and fairness managed to bring up a well balanced son, rather than what would be it seems your preferred method of shock treatment. perhaps you should gain some knowledge of a subject prior to spouting such inane crap.

As far as growing up is concerned it is a concept that would appear to have by passed you Liz. :?

[Jelster]

The fact of the matter is... my folks did that and much worse to me as a little kid, some of the things really scared the bejesus out of me. Some of the tricks they played, still to this day, leave me with deep routed fears when that situation shows its head again

And look how you turned out......

You obviously have no idea what being a parent is all about.


I have played tricks on my son and still do (better watch it though he'sas big as me now) but nothing ever that nasty. OK, it may have been funny at the time, but for Gods sake don't keep the video running, he's needed somebody to help him to calm down and tell him everything was OK.

The guy with the camera is a complete **** IMHO.

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[Anonymous]

Joe and e.d if you both suffered as children then I empathise with you. I too had a brutish father who meted out discipline with a 3'' leather belt not funny I can tell you.

However to cite that as any kind of justification to toughen up our own kids is utter and complete nonsense. Neither of you are parents,(to my knowledge) and this is blissfully clear. No caring parent would ever subject their own child to the experiences and pain that they themselves suffered. It just doesn't work that way.

Stating that the world is a nasty place and there are lots of cruel things out there serves no value at all. The point regarding that video clip is the boy should not have been subjetced to such mental distress in his own home.

Far from being a sissy father, I have through explanation and fairness managed to bring up a well balanced son, rather than what would be it seems your preferred method of shock treatment. perhaps you should gain some knowledge of a subject prior to spouting such inane crap.

As far as growing up is concerned it is a concept that would appear to have by passed you Liz. :?

Woah There Peter.

I never suffered any abuse from EITHER of my parents. I TOO was subject to discipline from a leather hide belt, the back of my fathers hand, AND a slipper - all of which were struck across the back of my legs, or my backside.

I got it when id done something terribly wrong, and i soon got to learn the difference between right and wrong - it has done me no harm what so ever.

Are you, out of interest, one of these parents who beleives that smacking should be outlawed totally!? :shock: :?

To be scared, IMHO, makes you a tougher person in the long run. If we wrap our children up, never let them watch the horriffic images on the news, or scary images, or scary movies etc - what can be expected to come of them? People who look at the world in an idoligical fashion?

There is a VERY FINE LINE between disciplining/educating children, and abusing them. My parents have done a fantastic job of raising me and my 20yo brother - however, i was subject to more scares, i was a more "curious" child, and as a result a received more "whippings" if you like from my father - the result of this is now, that i have a higher sense of the real world, i know how to read people, AND more importantly, i know how to fend for myself - where as my brother never got the same treatment as i did - i used to hate it - but now, he cant look after him self, doesnt understand about morals, and certainly doesnt have any sense of responsibility in him.

Therefore, in conclusion, i have to streniously disagree with your logic on this one Peter.

[diamond]

As far as growing up is concerned it is a concept that would appear to have by passed you Liz. :?

As i said earlier when you tried to tell me to grow up, no thanks i'd rather not.

As you have said i'm not a parent but at the end of the day i fid that clip funny and i'm not aplogising for that.

[Anonymous]

The fact of the matter is... my folks did that and much worse to me as a little kid, some of the things really scared the bejesus out of me. Some of the tricks they played, still to this day, leave me with deep routed fears when that situation shows its head again

And look how you turned out......



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Erm.. sorry Steve, not to sure what you mean here. Explain!? "look how i turned out?"

More successful than my old man, yet still less than half his age?

The ability to fend for myself when the situation arises?

A sense of responsibility (driving aside)?

Gay!?

Just what exactly does that comment mean Steve?

:?

[Peter Henry]

Joe...You jumped in when I was taking e.d to task over her attitude regarding the video clip.

If I read too much in to your post the apologise. However if you are also in any way justfying that senseless video then you too are wrong my friend.

Joe,furthermore I am not ashamed to admit that unfortunately I have had to resort to an occasional smack to help discipline my son. However the occasions I am glad to say can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand,(I guess not too bad when you consider that my son is now 15. ) I did though always feel very sh*tty after doing so. :?

[diamond]

Well suprise suprise a thread where Peter Henry gets all opinionated because some doesn't agree with his view and where Jelster starts having ago at GYKD. All must be well in the world cos every things running on schedule here. :lol:

[fizzwheel]

I would like to ask a question

If you saw that video on You've been framed whilst listening to the audience laugh what your opinion be then ?

[Anonymous]

I would like to ask a question

If you saw that video on You've been framed whilst listening to the audience laugh what your opinion be then ?

Im gonna hedge a bet here Fizz, that the majority of people would laugh along with it...

where as a few people may get all opinionated and write to the ITC to object!

[Peter Henry]

e.d....That response is no better than pathetic...but par for the course it would appear. I notice that you now have brought in the cavalry to assist your cause now. :lol:

I can accept at any time someone having a different opinion than myself. However when it is one that is as ridiculous as that being displayed by you here then I am totally prepared to indicate not only my disapproval but my disgust.

Please try and rise above the Mega Thread mentality on occasion. :wink:

[diamond]

e.d....That response is no better than pathetic...

Harsh but very fair i thought.

And what is ridiculous about finding the video funny?

[fizzwheel]

Thats my point, everybody has an opinion and is entitled to express it. Who are we to give out advice as to how parents bring up their kids. I can see my mum and dad going red in the face at the thought of somebody giving them parenting advice.

Yes the little lad got a fright, but I bet you he got over it. Perhaps his dad was mean to film and distribute it. thats certainly one point of view. However as a few of you say some people ( including his parents ) found it funny enough to distribute.

My dad used to like to play this kind of prank on me and my brother when we were small. Didnt do me to much harm. Also how do you know that after the video finishes he isnt reassured and cuddled until he felt better. Also I wander how guilty his parents felt when then saw how upset he got. I put up with much worse when I was a child from my piers, yes you shouldnt expect it from your parents, But compared to what some parents do to their children is this kind of thing really that bad ?

And Peter I'm expressing my own opinion here, Liz didnt ask me for help nor did I offer it, shes quite capable of looking after and thinking for herself.

[Peter Henry]

e.d wrote:

,Harsh but very fair i thought

Indeed this might be true if you had any understanding of the person that you cast this judgement on. But hey my world is unlikely to crumble as a result of a snide retort from you. I know that will be probably be difficult for you to accept but there it is. :)

I answer to your question, maybe it is not ridiculous for you to find that funny,nor perhaps for anyone with an outlook and mentality of similar vein.

Thank you for the dialogue it has helped a dull Monday pass by nicely. :wink:


Fizz wrote:
And Peter I'm expressing my own opinion here, Liz didnt ask me for help nor did I offer it, shes quite capable of looking after and thinking for herself.


As if you would dare say anything other than that mate! :wink: :lol:

[Filipe M.]

Sorry to drop in like this but I too think this vid is plain wrong.

Like Daphne, I've been scared with that "test" too and I resent people that send things like that as "harmless" chain letters. As a matter of fact, and although this may prove Joe's point, I've acquired the habit of being suspicious of all things like that and I have to admit I saw this film jumping it forward just to make sure I'd skip the scare part. I simply can't stand these kind of pranks, and as strange as this may come to you, heart attacks don't happen to other people only.

Peter's absolutely right on this one, only someone with a scarred mind would want his children to suffer from the same things they'd undergone as a child. I too share the opinion that we can't nurse the kids all the way, and they'll have to learn somethings for themselves, but I won't for a second think of letting my 18-month baby stick her fingers in a wall plug so that she can learn that it hurts!

As for smacking, I don't rule out a light smack on the hand or buttocks ocasionally, but can't absolutely endorse it's frequent use. If there's one thing that adulthood should bring us, it's the knowledge to handle most (if not all situations) without violence.

Just my 2 cents.

[diamond]

Indeed this might be true if you had any understanding of the person that you cast this judgement on.
I'm just basing my opinion on the posts i read, particular threads such as the George Best thread and the Moto GP one spring to mind where you seem intent on shouting any one down that does not have the same view as you. It may not be right to judge some one purely on the posts they write but i feel you have done exactly the same to me.

I answer to your question, maybe it is not ridiculous for you to find that funny,nor perhaps for anyone with an outlook and mentality of similar vein.
I have a different sense of humour to you, oh well me and spiderman could have a laugh. :lol:

Thank you for the dialogue it has helped a dull Monday pass by nicely. :wink:

Indeed it has passed a dull Monday and home time is at 4pm so alas this may be the end of our discussion.

[Filipe M.]

Yes the little lad got a fright, but I bet you he got over it.

He might, but then again he night not. These things do take their time to vanish, if at all, and can (and will) come back at a later stage to ruin some aspect of his life (Pavlov's Conditioned Reflex in action...). Funny thing is he probably won't remember this, won't even know this caused it, and won't understand what's going on at all. Anyway, psychologists have to earn a living too... :roll:

[Peter Henry]

So does no-one else see a pattern emerging here? The fact that those of us that have experienced the gift of being a parent are prepared to stand up and say that this is wrong? Whilst no matter what background or experience those still enjoying the more self induglent life style view it as a source of amusement.


Fizz...Your earlier referral to Game For a laugh? Please don't tell me that you have never sat and watched that programme and refused to laugh at some of the obviously contrived and staged stunts? And please dont expect me to believe that anyone with intelligence can refuse to laugh at an incident purely because canned laughter is prompting them? Plus intelligent people can look beyond the attempt at entertainment when the stunt being shown was either totally wreckless or downright dangerous.

P.s. Liz...."Shouting people down" is not a tactic I either use on the forum or face to face. But if those are the only two incidents when I have been guilty of such bad manners then, I guess though not correct...maybe I do not deserve to burn.....not yet! :lol: :lol:

[jonboy]

As for smacking, I don't rule out a light smack on the buttocks ocasionally...

Well indeed. If Mrs jonboy insists upon it, I'm happy to occasionally oblige :lol: :oops: .



(Couldn't honestly decide if that was U-rated or not, so Fizz or BigApe can delete away if they feel the need)


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[Anonymous]

So does no-one else see a pattern emerging here? the fact that those of us that have experienced the gift of being a parent are opprepared to stand up and say that this is wrong? Whilst no matter what background or experience those still enjoying the more self induglent life style view it as a source of amusement.


Fizz...Your earlier referral to Game For a laugh? Please don't tell me that you have never sat and watched that programme and refused to laugh at some of the obviously contrived and staged stunts? And please dont expect me to believe that anyone with intelligence can refuse to laugh at an incident purely because canned laughter is prompting them? Plus intelligent people can look beyond the attempt at entertainment when the stunt being shown was either totally wreckless or downright dangerous.

Peter... without wanting to fall out over this extremely trivial matter - this posting makes it sound like you are juding the intelligence of those who found this clip funny?

Intellegence has nothing to do with it.

So please, get off your moral high ground, come down from the soap box, and chill out.

[Filipe M.]

As for smacking, I don't rule out a light smack on the buttocks ocasionally...

Well indeed. If Mrs jonboy insists upon it, I'm happy to occasionally oblige :lol: :oops: .



(Couldn't honestly decide if that was U-rated or not, so Fizz or BigApe can delete away if they feel the need)


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I knew someone would say that!

I thought of it myself :oops: :oops:

[Peter Henry]

Joe so are we talking intelligence or morals here? The decision is youuuurrs! :lol: :lol:

[fizzwheel]

Fizz...Your earlier referral to Game For a laugh? Please don't tell me that you have never sat and watched that programme and refused to laugh at some of the obviously contrived and staged stunts? And please dont expect me to believe that anyone with intelligence can refuse to laugh at an incident purely because canned laughter is prompting them? Plus intelligent people can look beyond the attempt at entertainment when the stunt being shown was either totally wreckless or downright dangerous.

Some things I dont find funny some things I do. Personally I hate the damn contrived programe as it is IMHO a complete pile o poo, normally it would get turned off if its on as I cant stand it. I was trying to take this video out of one context ( posted on the internet by a cruel and heartless parent ) and place it in another ( a TV program that we are all familar with ) and see if anybodies opinion changed.

However laughter is infectious in my experience once one person begins to laugh so will others. A sheep kind of mentality if you will. To stand up and say I dont think thats funny takes I've found a lot of courage. In fact to refuse to follow the crowd and have your own opinion and to stick by it also take courage as well.

Its still a basic prank, make somebody jump and then laugh about it. Most times I've found if you do that the victim will often laugh and calm down in a few seconds. Whether or not carrying out this kind of prank on a small child is right or fair, its not up to me to say. I'd probably feel different if I had a child and it was them that this happened to. The only thing I can relate it to is that as I stated earlier when I was a child I had far worse things done to me by my piers, these things still affect me now from time to time, I know why and I know how they effect me.

I think what I'm trying to say is that

1. Nobody knows how to be a parent, its something that you learn
2. Small children IMHO often but not always bounce back from shocks like this if its meant as a joke and its not some part of long term mental / physcial abuse.
3. In a free world, everybody has an opinion and I learnt that whilst you dont always agree with what people say, it doesnt make your point view the right one.
4. I like it when threads like these pop up you learn a hell of a lot about how different people view the world

[Peter Henry]

Fizz...Nicely put sir! :thumbsup:

[Anonymous]

Joe so are we talking intelligence or morals here? The decision is youuuurrs! :lol: :lol:

Well you started talking morals at one point, so at which point i was referring to those.

Then you mentioned about intelligence, and how people with "higher levels"..."wouldnt laugh at this" - at which point i turned to intelligence.

So seeing as we've discussed both, ill go with both.

:lol: :? :lol:

[Peter Henry]

Joe...Go on then we'll run with both! :lol: However I am waffled out for one day! :wink:

[Anonymous]

Joe...Go on then we'll run with both! :lol: However I am waffled out for one day! :wink:
I agree.

Just been told ive got to spend 2 days producing a load of reports which both myself and the IT manager KNOW wont be of any use, and wont be used.

So talk about a complete and utter waste of mine and companies time. Can think of a hundred and 1 more important pressing matters which need to be addressed, as well as a thousand and one more time efficient ways in which to address this particular issue.

However our CEO has a love affair with Excel, and wont allow me nor the IT manager to perform the same task in Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

[Cloggsy]

That's really, really bad....

I agree, felt really sorry for the little scamp :roll:

[Peter Henry]

Oops...another Dad! :lol:

[TC3]

[quote=Peter Henry]

Just been told ive got to spend 2 days producing a load of reports which both myself and the IT manager KNOW wont be of any use, and wont be used.

So talk about a complete and utter waste of mine and companies time. Can think of a hundred and 1 more important pressing matters which need to be addressed, as well as a thousand and one more time efficient ways in which to address this particular issue.

However our CEO has a love affair with Excel, and wont allow me nor the IT manager to perform the same task in Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

Why not just do as you are told and shut up :D or maybe get another job as you moan about that one a lot

[Anonymous]

[quote=Peter Henry]

Just been told ive got to spend 2 days producing a load of reports which both myself and the IT manager KNOW wont be of any use, and wont be used.

So talk about a complete and utter waste of mine and companies time. Can think of a hundred and 1 more important pressing matters which need to be addressed, as well as a thousand and one more time efficient ways in which to address this particular issue.

However our CEO has a love affair with Excel, and wont allow me nor the IT manager to perform the same task in Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

Why not just do as you are told and shut up :D or maybe get another job as you moan about that one a lot

Sod off!

Ill do it, but it would be nice for the management to at least entertain the possibility of cutting down on wasted time, making the company more efficient and sorting the problems effectively. But he just loves excel.

Anyone who knows the systems, will know that if you wanna do complex calculations - use a spreadsheet. If you want to store data and pull off different aspects of data in reports - then access is the programme you need for the job.

Actually i dont moan about this job at all. I love the job, the career plans and the organisation, its just at times you feel like committing suicide when you're being told to go from a to b via zyxwvutsrpqonmlkjihgedc when you can just go A-B like that.

:roll: Or dont you work in business?

[fizzwheel]

Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

Can you not just do it in access anyway and then dump the results to a CSV file and import it into excel...

Or just do it in access anyway and tell him that excel wont let you do what he wanted in the time he wanted it done in

Usually works for me :wink:

[TC3]

Have worked in the retail trade in the past and now am an architectual technician. Every job i have been in i have found situations were things could be done better but the managment were afraid to change things that they know work. Like u this did not go down well with me so rather than moan about things i decided to find a company that does listen to new ideas.....everyone is a lot happier this way

Basically it makes no difference if you work in business or not... u need to learn how to manage your time effectivly and try and encourage the managment to see the advantages of change...too bad yours do not sound as if they want to budge

[Anonymous]

The thing I most dislike about the sort of video clip that started this whole thread off is, NOT that a parent made a mistake about frightening his kid - because most parents have done that at some time, and then usually deeply regretted it - but that the so-called parent then thinks it's really funny to show the world how he has humiliated the child. Perhaps even the child himself will see his humiliation....and all his mates at school!

So let's up the ante and show the kid having his arm ripped off - that'll be a laugh won't it? He can get it sewn back on - upside down because that'll be even funnier. Or how about slipping some razor blades in his sandwich, so he cuts his tongue off....he can always have a blood transfusion! It'll be a laugh when he speaks funny, won't it!

It's just the soft precursor to "happy-slapping" (sic) and I'd willing read the Megathread for two years than have that crap on the site - or read idiots like GYKD trying to defend it.

[Cloggsy]

It's just the soft precursor to "happy-slapping" (sic) and I'd willing read the Megathread for two years than have that crap on the site - or read idiots like GYKD trying to defend it.

=D> =D> =D> Well said that man =D> =D> =D>

[Anonymous]

Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

Can you not just do it in access anyway and then dump the results to a CSV file and import it into excel...

Or just do it in access anyway and tell him that excel wont let you do what he wanted in the time he wanted it done in

Usually works for me :wink:

Each of our account managers, has x number of consultants on his books (licensees) each of those consultants has x number of clients on his books (sub licencess).

The data on our database has no controls in at the moment, so we have no real way of checking what we hold against what the licencees and sub licencees are holding, except relying on them to submit updated Scope Of Works in when something changes.

Our CEO wants me to take a report from the database, send to as mail attachment in xls format to each licencee, get them to check the details, amend where required, email it back to me - then for me to manually transpose that onto their existing master copy SOW, mail it back to them to check, then update our database. We're looking at in the region of 1000 sub licensees between 17 licencees.

What IT and myself proposed was to produce a report showing what is outstanding on any given week end date, email this report as a rich text format to the licensee and also our Account Managers, with a note attached saying along the lines of - "is this information correct for contracts signing this week? If so, no need to action, if not, please submit an updated SOW with immediate effect". The Account Manager also has the information so he can chase as and when required.

But our CEO prefers his option of us doing it for them... and as such, taking 2-3 days out of my week when i have other things to be working on.

[Anonymous]

Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

Can you not just do it in access anyway and then dump the results to a CSV file and import it into excel...

Or just do it in access anyway and tell him that excel wont let you do what he wanted in the time he wanted it done in

Usually works for me :wink:

Each of our account managers, has x number of consultants on his books (licensees) each of those consultants has x number of clients on his books (sub licencess).

The data on our database has no controls in at the moment, so we have no real way of checking what we hold against what the licencees and sub licencees are holding, except relying on them to submit updated Scope Of Works in when something changes.

Our CEO wants me to take a report from the database, send to as mail attachment in xls format to each licencee, get them to check the details, amend where required, email it back to me - then for me to manually transpose that onto their existing master copy SOW, mail it back to them to check, then update our database. We're looking at in the region of 1000 sub licensees between 17 licencees.

What IT and myself proposed was to produce a report showing what is outstanding on any given week end date, email this report as a rich text format to the licensee and also our Account Managers, with a note attached saying along the lines of - "is this information correct for contracts signing this week? If so, no need to action, if not, please submit an updated SOW with immediate effect". The Account Manager also has the information so he can chase as and when required.

But our CEO prefers his option of us doing it for them... and as such, taking 2-3 days out of my week when i have other things to be working on.

As you are so talented, it's quite amazing really that you're not the CEO. May we presume the "other things" are postings on this forum about how brilliant things would be on Planet GYKD if you were in charge?

[Anonymous]

Access which would reduce the time by about 75%. ](*,)

Can you not just do it in access anyway and then dump the results to a CSV file and import it into excel...

Or just do it in access anyway and tell him that excel wont let you do what he wanted in the time he wanted it done in

Usually works for me :wink:

Each of our account managers, has x number of consultants on his books (licensees) each of those consultants has x number of clients on his books (sub licencess).

The data on our database has no controls in at the moment, so we have no real way of checking what we hold against what the licencees and sub licencees are holding, except relying on them to submit updated Scope Of Works in when something changes.

Our CEO wants me to take a report from the database, send to as mail attachment in xls format to each licencee, get them to check the details, amend where required, email it back to me - then for me to manually transpose that onto their existing master copy SOW, mail it back to them to check, then update our database. We're looking at in the region of 1000 sub licensees between 17 licencees.

What IT and myself proposed was to produce a report showing what is outstanding on any given week end date, email this report as a rich text format to the licensee and also our Account Managers, with a note attached saying along the lines of - "is this information correct for contracts signing this week? If so, no need to action, if not, please submit an updated SOW with immediate effect". The Account Manager also has the information so he can chase as and when required.

But our CEO prefers his option of us doing it for them... and as such, taking 2-3 days out of my week when i have other things to be working on.

As you are so talented, it's quite amazing really that you're not the CEO. May we presume the "other things" are postings on this forum about how brilliant things would be on Planet GYKD if you were in charge?

WTF is your problem?

Ive not insulted you, and yet two posting on a trot now you've insulted me.

If you've got a problem, say it to me via PM - not on open forum.

End Of. *joe sticks middle finger up*

[jonboy]

...but that the so-called parent then thinks it's really funny to show the world how he has humiliated the child. Perhaps even the child himself will see his humiliation....and all his mates at school!

This is indeed the nub of the matter - showing the whole world and still thinking it's funny, without thought to the consequences.


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[Jdubya]

The guy who filmed that and sent it out is just a w@nker in my opinion.

Could not have put it better myself :thumbsup:

[Spiderman]

I only cried for a few seconds when i had the same thing happen to me a while ago :lol:

:lol: :lol:

You **** Spidey

:lol: :lol:

:takeabow: Cheers buddy, i can feel the love in that little statement. ;)

Looks like i missed a busy old thread yesterday. Actualy did some work you see :)

I have a warped sense of humour at the best of times, i recall driving a friend to Oxford cos she couldnt drive herself (hurt ankle) and all the way there we were nearly in tears with some of the most ridiculous and twisted jokes about the sheeps we would see at the roadside. Silly things along the lines of "Ahhh arent those lambs cute, bouncing about like that. Must be a great laugh to have a hi powered snipers rifle and take a few of those prancing tw@s out!!" and we'd laugh like idiots.
Point here is i laugh at what i find funny without moralising it sometimes.

I'm not a parent and not gonna look to blame my parents for who i am today, good or bad cos i dont see that as being the point of this thread either.

A lot of you seem to have forgetten a point i made earlier that this could be his older brother or sister.... and we know just how cruel one of those can be sometimes.

I had that same thing with the 2 pictures and spot the diffrence before the sacry face jumps and i did **** myself the first time. Is it right to put complete strangers thru that by sending them it on an email? How do you know how they will react to it?

Dont kids get taken to funfair and wanna go on the sacry rides..... so things jump out at them and scare them? Sometimes they cry even tho they went into it with their eyes open.

Is it wrong to post this on the net in the first place? Really up to the person who filmed it i guess. The net is an open playground for all kinds of things, lots of them that i dont want to see so i avoid. Lots of those that i avoid others go actively looking for....rottendotcom anyone?...... should they be banned or shunned for this or should i respect that freedom allows for these things?

If we are talking about morality here i found it far, far, FAR more disgusting that one morning when i went to pay for my very over priced petrol i saw EVERY NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE WAS A CLOSE UP OF A DEAD MANS FACE!!!!!
If your memories are too selective then think back to before Saddam hussaein was captured. To when there was a feirce firefight and Saddams sons were killed.

The faces of those two dead men were on every national newspapers front page because this country's media had decided that it helped the moral push toward victory or some such ****e and that when Saddam saw these images he would be delaflated and easier to find now that his sons were dead.

Thats the sort of thing that should not be published.
Really, a little kid getting scared of something designed to scare him...and then crying about it a bit. Oh i'm so upset having seen that. :roll:

[Anonymous]

:winner:


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:thumbsup:

Well said spidey

[Peter Henry]

Errr you are in agreement there then Joe? :wink: :)

[Filipe M.]

:winner:


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:thumbsup:

Well said spidey

Sorry Joe. Your winner.

I agree with a lot of spiderman says, but for me the last line just misses the point completely. It's not about how upset you become by seeing the vid, it's all about how upset the kid becomes. :roll:

[Anonymous]

Errr you are in agreement there then Joe? :wink: :)


just a little. :lol:

Hung over massively today, cant be bothered to dispute anything.

[Spiderman]

:winner:


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:thumbsup:

Well said spidey

Sorry Joe. Your winner.

I agree with a lot of spiderman says, but for me the last line just misses the point completely. It's not about how upset you become by seeing the vid, it's all about how upset the kid becomes. :roll:

Thanks guys.... Filipe, i was actually being flipant with that last remark about me getting upset watching the kid. ;)

[Filipe M.]

:winner:


=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

:thumbsup:

Well said spidey

Sorry Joe. Your winner.

I agree with a lot of spiderman says, but for me the last line just misses the point completely. It's not about how upset you become by seeing the vid, it's all about how upset the kid becomes. :roll:

Thanks guys.... Filipe, i was actually being flipant with that last remark about me getting upset watching the kid. ;)

:oops: :oops: :oops: sorry, having a bad day at the office :oops: :oops: :oops:

[Spiderman]

:oops: :oops: :oops: sorry, having a bad day at the office :oops: :oops: :oops:

Dont be man, its difficult to hear the flipancy in my writing sometimes :lol: