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Peter Henry
15-02-06, 08:10 AM
Please excuse my ignorance folks. :oops:
Has this machine been released in the U.K yet? I know some of you had a look at it at the odd show late last year?
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6291/gsr6001rw.gif (http://imageshack.us)
I have just read an extensive road test on it in a Spanish mag and I have to say it gets great reviews. Last years GSXR motor and is very good at low revs also.
The detail and spec on it looks very good to me and I am very impressed by the way Suzuki have decided to think outside of the loop and incorporate a lovely looking swing arm which not only is aimed at function but has great form.
My opinion matters little but I would definitely be looking at that as a serious alternative to the Hornet or Fazer if I had a desire to go naked? :oops:
rictus01
15-02-06, 08:47 AM
one was in evidence at the Ally pally show, and yes it seems to have all the right bits, although a little disappointed in the styling, as the plastic rad shrouds do give a certain "X-11" type look, the riding position looks to be just on the sporty side (but not by much), one step up from the hornet/ fazer types, more speed four territory (and as has been seen, not many are willing to pay the premium within the 600 roadster class), at the end of the day it'll come down to price.
Good try, we'll have to see what insurance bracket it's put it?
Cheers Mark.
I was in my local dealer yesterday and they had 2 in the showroom.
A few peeps showing some interest round them, the salesman started one up quite a nice sound when he blipped the throttle a bit like the GSXR 600 imo.
I only had a quick look round it not sure about the styling although I do like the look of the swing arm.
I will have a better look at it when I go to the bike show here at the end of the month.
Anonymous
15-02-06, 09:31 AM
I saw one in Fowlers at the weekend. Were I looking for a first bike again that would definitely have caught my eye. If you are not sold on a v-twin this ones streets ahead of the naked SV IMO. Having said that insurance group will be a determinant.
northwind
15-02-06, 11:29 AM
Just doesn't go far enough IMO... Step in the right direction but I'd still have a Hornet. Or one of these, then drop in a 750 engine and an USD front end ;)
Last Action Pimp
15-02-06, 11:37 AM
they had one in my dealer the other day
northwind
15-02-06, 01:43 PM
I meant to add... Twin seats! What's going on with these horrible things? They belong on 500cc parallel twins and tourers, but they're making a comeback on proper bikes. Disaster looms for the whole biking industry if they don't get this fixed.
Twin seats... Feh.
Twin seats... Feh.
And those pillion footrests. What a bloody eyesore.
Anonymous
15-02-06, 02:24 PM
That double seat and the pillion footrests are fab :D
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That double seat and the pillion footrests are fab :D
:wink:
Here you go Rich. You dropped this:
http://www.nutrition.org.uk/upload/woodenspoon.jpg
Peter Henry
15-02-06, 06:12 PM
Well I strolled by the local Suzuki dealership a little while ago and stood and had a good look at the GSR600. I don't think it works in the red colour,but the blue is nice and with the gunmetal colour being excellent.
The bike in general is definitely broader than say an SV but really does look a nice bit of kit. I like the front indicators being set in to panels and the rear exhast exit and light assembly are very neat indeed.
As opposed to that very long hangar for the pillion footrests I don't understand why they could not have been mounted off the swingarm? But perhaps that would subject the passenger to undue suspension movement?
All in all,yes I know price will be a big factor but if it comes in similar to the Fazer and Hornet then this for me would have to be strongly considered. 8)
As opposed to that very long hangar for the pillion footrests I don't understand why they could not have been mounted off the swingarm? But perhaps that would subject the passenger to undue suspension movement?
I can't say I've ever seen a bike with that setup. Wouldn't you run the risk of ejecting the pillion off the back at the first big bump in the road?
Possibly the reason they're not fixed under the subframe is due to the hi level pipes, but I'm only guessing. The Z1000, Hornet and Monster have the same combined footrest idea, and TBH it's not something you notice after the first few views of it.
I think the bike has a fantastic mean & moody look to it, not dis-similar to the FZ1. Is the B-King the 'busa version of this bike? I'd like a go on one of them. :D
Biker Biggles
15-02-06, 08:10 PM
Peter Henry!You are showing your age.The last time I saw pillion rests on the rear swingarm was the F1 CB400 Four.And Slade were number one. :lol:
The Basket
15-02-06, 08:16 PM
The Suzuki Hornet.
northwind
15-02-06, 08:18 PM
Hornet? Nah... The design brief was blatantly "Make an FZ6, but make it less rubbish". Success!
Peter Henry
15-02-06, 08:54 PM
B:B....You caught me! Err funny you should mention it but I did have an F1 400-4! :lol: And Slade used to rock my house!...You know how to squeeze me...whooaaa....oooooo! Go on Noddy son! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Biker Biggles
15-02-06, 09:21 PM
That's why we like V twins---Cum on feel the noize.Said the man who speaks evil to my friend Stan.That was after the bangin man said gudby T Jane.
Great Band,Great Guys.I did security work at one of their gigs on the Bring the House Down tour and I've been slightly deaf ever sinse. :lol:
Anonymous
15-02-06, 09:22 PM
Did they REALLY live next door to Ozzy Osbourne in Walsall? :?
:wink:
IMHO it's on the same level of uglyness as the ER-6 and IIRC most reviews said it was ok but could do with lots more oomph!
chris
Peter Henry
15-02-06, 10:38 PM
vfr400...Very odd that as the Spanish journos thought it felt more like a bike of larger capacity,particularly at lower revs? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and personally I would have to suggest that the GSR is far from ugly,a little different maybe...but defintely not ugly. 8)
i love the looks on this bike, but i can't get along with it - the riding position is far too up front for me being a tallun, feels like i'm looking right over the front.. i can see it being a popular choice (competing against z750, yamaha fz6, hornet...)
if they kept the styling but adjusted the riding position to be more neutral, and stuck in a bored out version of the SV650 engine, then i'd buy three
The Basket
29-03-06, 09:54 PM
I have seen this bike in the flesh for the first time and it looks very good. Good write ups too
At a nice price. Certainly take away sales from the other budget 600's.
Dunno where this leaves the SV and Bandit? Will take sales away from them too. Suzook maybe building too many bikes after the same market?
if they built one with a 700cc V4 then it'd be the ultimate :D
northwind
29-03-06, 11:10 PM
Suzuki have always made loads of bikes in this market. Bandit 6 and 6 S, GSXF600 and 750, GS500, DL650, and both SVs, and to a lesser extent the small GSXRs. With the GSXF600 finally being dropped (I think) it's actually preserving that balance.
I reckon that either the Bandit or the GSR600 wll be no more within a couple of years. The Bandit's an old dog anyway, it either needs reborn or put down tbh. I think they missed a trick, they should have made the GSR the new Bandit. But it depends if the GSR takes off or not.
The Basket
29-03-06, 11:15 PM
With the GSXF600 finally being dropped (I think)
Hopefully off a cliff, into a sea, with a very heavy anchor. Dreadful thing.
I think Suzuki may sue if you say the GSR is the new GSXF!!!!
amarko5
30-03-06, 12:16 AM
a GSR1000 might be an interesting concept I could be tempted to go to a four cylinder if they gave it the extra beef :lol:
current uk list price is 5,199 for the 600 :lol: hope they announce a 1000
Good but not good enough.
Why do Japanese manufacturers persist in putting 600cc revvy IL4's in bikes.
IMO they are underpowered and a pain to ride (manic gear shifting etc.)
Much better to have the umph of a twin :P
The Basket
30-03-06, 08:09 AM
a GSR1000 might be an interesting concept I could be tempted to go to a four cylinder if they gave it the extra beef :lol:
current uk list price is 5,199 for the 600 :lol: hope they announce a 1000
Same price as the Hornet. Needs a few deals then...I would go for the Hornet.
Is the GSR on free finance or free servcing deals?
Flamin_Squirrel
30-03-06, 08:54 AM
Good but not good enough.
Why do Japanese manufacturers persist in putting 600cc revvy IL4's in bikes.
IMO they are underpowered and a pain to ride (manic gear shifting etc.)
Much better to have the umph of a twin :P
Have you ridden an il4? :?
Jelster
30-03-06, 08:59 AM
Good but not good enough.
Why do Japanese manufacturers persist in putting 600cc revvy IL4's in bikes.
IMO they are underpowered and a pain to ride (manic gear shifting etc.)
Much better to have the umph of a twin :P
Have you ridden an il4? :?
Obviously not..... Well not a fairly modern 600 that's for sure...
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Saw one of these in a bike bay yesterday. Bit wider and lower than I expected, but looked ok. The rear seems a bit "plasticy" though.
As to how it rides? Who cares, I've got an SV :twisted:
The Basket
30-03-06, 09:24 AM
If Suzuki think that an IL4 is where the money is, then any future development of the SV will be over. Similar to the VTR1000 in which it just carries on and stays the same.
northwind
30-03-06, 09:31 AM
Why do Japanese manufacturers persist in putting 600cc revvy IL4's in bikes.
Um... The new Fazer falls into that camp, in this bracket, but not to the extent some would tell you. The rest don't really.
I've tried a load of 600's
Learned on a GT550
Tried the last GSXR600 and ZX6R
New and old fazers
Hornet
Triumph Speed Four and Daytona 600
But I still think that 600cc is too little for an IL4. 750cc now you are talking
I like torque low down. I like grunt. I don't like high end power (just think it will get me into trouble one day :twisted: )
That's why I've only owned twins and singles!!!
northwind
30-03-06, 09:44 AM
If Suzuki think that an IL4 is where the money is, then any future development of the SV will be over. Similar to the VTR1000 in which it just carries on and stays the same.
In theory, aye... But it's not likely. If you look at the sales of the SV, it's not going anywhere in a hurry. If you want to turn it around, if IL4s were where the money is, why have Kawasaki just launced a direct competitor for the SV?
The Basket
30-03-06, 09:55 AM
The ER-6 is the long awaited replacement for the GPz...it only took 'em 13 years!!!!
The Bandit's air cooled IL4 grandpa is making the same power as the SV's but at much lower torque. The more modern GSR liquid cooled IL4 is far better. More power.
I think the upturn in sales of SVs could be more to do with Suzuki agressive marketing and price cutting and free finance and free servicing. Rather than love of the V-twin engine. It matches the Hornet in jorno write ups but stuffs it on price.
northwind
30-03-06, 10:03 AM
The ER-6 is the long awaited replacement for the GPz...it only took 'em 13 years!!!!
I'd say that's the Z750. The GPz might have ended up being considered a tame commuter but it didn't start life that way.
The Basket
30-03-06, 10:12 AM
I'd say that's the Z750. The GPz might have ended up being considered a tame commuter but it didn't start life that way.
I beg to differ. I think the Z is the Hornet or Fazer chaser and the ER is the ER-5's bigger brother.
The GPz was a go-getter in it's early days but that was many moons ago when it had few competition. Even said to be the new 350LC!!! A light weight bike with 60 horse is today's back marker and that is why Kwak went IL4 and 100bhp with the Z.
Ceri JC
30-03-06, 10:52 AM
I don't like the styling and the colours the UK market have been given are rubbish. Motor might be good, but I'd rather buy a 'fightered GSX-r 600 for half the price and just have to pay a bit more insurance.
northwind
30-03-06, 11:06 AM
I'd say that's the Z750. The GPz might have ended up being considered a tame commuter but it didn't start life that way.
I beg to differ. I think the Z is the Hornet or Fazer chaser and the ER is the ER-5's bigger brother.
The GPz was a go-getter in it's early days but that was many moons ago when it had few competition. Even said to be the new 350LC!!! A light weight bike with 60 horse is today's back marker and that is why Kwak went IL4 and 100bhp with the Z.
I don't think we're exactly disagreeing here ;) Now I think about it more, the real heir to the Geep is the 636 IMO.
But whether or not it's the replacement for another bike, it's still absolutely a direct competitor for the SV. The spec is so close and the target market so similiar.
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