View Full Version : Justice - what's that then?
wyrdness
22-02-06, 03:54 PM
This one has really got my blood boiling.
Scum steals car, kills child in hit & run and gets...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/4739670.stm
F***ing unbelievable. I hope that the sentence is appealed.
Anonymous
22-02-06, 03:56 PM
You're not the only one - its a total sham.
If you kill some one like that, you should face charges of death through dangerous driving - along with the other charges of no insurance, license etc.
This kid should do at least 10 years inside for it.
Filipe M.
22-02-06, 03:56 PM
This one has really got my blood boiling.
Scum steals car, kills child in hit & run and gets...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/4739670.stm
F***ing unbelievable. I hope that the sentence is appealed.
Out of words, really... :?
Flamin_Squirrel
22-02-06, 03:59 PM
Well he wasnt caught speeding, so it's all alright then.
fizzwheel
22-02-06, 04:00 PM
Thats awful. I bet the driver that hit my mate and killed him and then drove off gets something similar, its just wrong so totally wrong :cry:
Filipe M.
22-02-06, 04:00 PM
Well he wasnt caught speeding, so it's all alright then.
So unfortunately funny... :? you're probably absolutely right on that one :?
let me fan the flames....
would the fact he's in a racial "minority" have owt to do with it? would the judge feel aprehensive at sending him down for longer cos of his creed? i dunno, thinking out loud. i hope and expect i'm very very wrong.....
but the sentence is just a ****ing joke. simple as that
Flamin_Squirrel
22-02-06, 04:08 PM
let me fan the flames....
would the fact he's in a racial "minority" have owt to do with it? would the judge feel aprehensive at sending him down for longer cos of his creed? i dunno, thinking out loud. i hope and expect i'm very very wrong.....
but the sentence is just a f*cking joke. simple as that
Probably not. But now my rage on this matter has subsided, I wonder why the sentance was so pitiful.
Why WASNT he charged with death by dangerous driving? Gut feeling is its more likely to be police/cps incompetance than the judge getting up that morning thinking "hmm, ill let someone off the hook today".
let me fan the flames....
would the fact he's in a racial "minority" have owt to do with it? would the judge feel aprehensive at sending him down for longer cos of his creed? i dunno, thinking out loud. i hope and expect i'm very very wrong.....
but the sentence is just a f*cking joke. simple as that
In this case, maybe, maybe not, but it def does happen, sorry but regardless of the guy's colour, religion or sexual preferences he should be locked up & the key thrown away & do they really think he will take any notice of a driving ban, lethal injection springs to mind.
Jelster
22-02-06, 04:28 PM
If he was on 2 wheels he would have got 5 years, at least.....
*******s like this need to be put agaisnt a wall and shot... Plain & simple.
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He handed himself in apparently which might have helped him out, but it should be 12 weeks for:
Stolen car
No insurance
No licence
Let alone hitting the kid and running, throw away the key, how incodiderate do you have to be to do all of that!?
Spiderman
22-02-06, 04:39 PM
Justice, hmmmmm...justice???
Nope cant say ive seen any of that in this country for many years now.
We get those 2 who rape a baby and get 6 yrs for it, we get this guy who kills a kid and might as well be given some jelly and ice cream for all that sentance is worth.
Who remembers the law student in a volvo who hit a biker and took off his foot and never reported it but got just 2 months for it.
Is there any actual guidlines for sentancing in this country? Do they make it up as they go along or is it simply a case of having a lawyer/barrister who knows the best funny handshakes and drops trousers for the majority of judges when they all meet up at the local freemasons lodge?
None of it makes any semse to me :(
northwind
22-02-06, 04:49 PM
I'm not defending it, exactly, but if they'd thought they could make a case for dangerous driving or vehicular manslaughter, they almost certainly would have. I don't know why they didn't, mind- there could be a godo reason, there might not. The reports I've seen don't suggest that he was driving dangerously, speeding, on the wrong side of the road, or anything like that. Anyone know more?
timwilky
22-02-06, 04:51 PM
The system stinks. Any driver can make a mistake and when they do they are normally hauled over the coals. This driver made no mistake
No licence
no insurance
etc. out on bail. He did not make a mistake he should never have been behind the wheel. This was a deliberate act to attempt to drive a vehicle he knew himself to be unqualified to control.
Then there is the failing to stop etc which IMHO is unexcusable and should carry more than the 5 weeks for each of the failings he has been jailed for.
I hate to stir up the hornets nest of political correctness and the guys obvious race. But when the poo hits the fan over this (and it will) the racists within this country are going to have a propoganda field day.
Simple. killing somebody by hitting them with a vehicle you are not licensed/insured is not careless driving. to my mind it is tantermount to murder. no different to pulling a trigger
Scum, according to this evening news, he was speeding, 45 in a 30, car was stolen with false plates and he was driving irratically. Death by dangerous driving should be the correct charge
Supervox
22-02-06, 07:29 PM
I only hope that the nature of his offence is 'somehow' publicised throughout the prison in which he serves his sentence. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
northwind
22-02-06, 08:01 PM
Scum, according to this evening news, he was speeding, 45 in a 30, car was stolen with false plates and he was driving irratically. Death by dangerous driving should be the correct charge
Sounds like it. But here's teh thing- the courts don't really like to let child-ckillers off easy. If they could have proven vehicular manslaughter, or even merely dangerous driving, then they'd have no reason to bring a lesser charge. Seems likely that they believed that any stronger charge wasn't going to stand up in court.
I'd love for the scumbag to rot, but it does have to be done right, is my point.
And to cap it all, the person that stole the kid's teddy from the memorial got....
12 weeks. :shock:
And yet for the really heinous crime of refusing to pay his council tax, a local 72 year old was jailed for 3 months!
It's a joke...................a SICK joke.
philipMac
22-02-06, 09:19 PM
So... there is never going to be Justice for this sort of crime.
Nothing can be done to bring the kid back, that life is over.
That always gets me. When people start crying out for justice for some horrible crime. It doesnt exist... taking the guy out, killing him, whatever, there is still no justice. Its still just two shattered parents, bawling their eyes out.
In this case though.. I dont see why he is not done for manslaughter. Surely manslaughter has a more severe sentence than a few weeks?
21QUEST
25-02-06, 04:45 AM
let me fan the flames....
would the fact he's in a racial "minority" have owt to do with it? would the judge feel aprehensive at sending him down for longer cos of his creed?
In this case, maybe, maybe not, but it def does happen, ......
First off , off course his sentence was pitiful but what exactly is new with that(harsh as it may sound).
Secondly , what the feck has his race got to do with anything. To be honest I'm getting increasingly irrititated by people always needing to make a connection with race with everything. That was no justice , 'End off....'
I hate to stir up the hornets nest of political correctness and the guys obvious race. But when the poo hits the fan over this (and it will) the racists within this country are going to have a propoganda field day.
Sorry , but I can't seem to make out exactly the point you are trying to make.
Cheers
Ben
The little girls mum has been all over the ews the last couple of days and i can't even begin to imagine what she is going through she lost her little girl in such an horrific way and then had to watch while the scumbg basically got away with it :evil: :evil:
philipMac
25-02-06, 07:26 AM
The little girls mum has been all over the ews the last couple of days and i can't even begin to imagine what she is going through she lost her little girl in such an horrific way and then had to watch while the scumbg basically got away with it :evil: :evil:
Yeah. Its a real double dose of lovelyness.
First we take away the most precious, unreplacable thing in your life.
Then we film you, being completely gutted.
Then we film you still being gutted watching yer man basically walk.
I am sorry. I think I get it with out seeing the mum. I think, I can get that she is going to be feeling a bit upset. I dont actually need to have it beamed into my living room, thanks all the same SKY News.
Ever heard of Journalistic Ethics?
Nah mate, sorry. Never heard of him.
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