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Putting a clutch in an SV is a piece of piddly pie. Took about 20 mins, and that was taking my time.
Put bike on side stand
undo the bolts around the clutch cover
undo the 6 bolts that hold the springs
remove springs and the cover that they hold in
remove plates
place new plates in one at a time layering with the steels that seprate them
replace cover
put in new springs
tighten up
replace clutch cover
adjust clutch
job done.
So if your sv ever needs a clutch, do it yourself.
Sorry that is all..carry on
=D> Well done - fancy sorting out the rest of my gearbox?
=D> Well done - fancy sorting out the rest of my gearbox?
Ah!
Warthog
06-03-06, 12:29 PM
N00b question ahoy:
Are bike clutches wet clutches? If that is true, isn't there a load of oil everywhere that you have to deal with?
Negatory me hearty - in the main they are of the dry sort, but some are wet.
Warthog
06-03-06, 12:39 PM
Hmm, so who told me I could just sit there with the clutch in and it wouldn't be harming my bike?? I had an ER5, now an SV650, are either of those wet?
Having not been in either, I would be reluctant to provide a defo answer, although from Viney's descrip it would appear the SV is not a wet clutch.
Well done, Falc needs to do his
Hmm, so who told me I could just sit there with the clutch in and it wouldn't be harming my bike?? I had an ER5, now an SV650, are either of those wet?
i was told this on my DAS course. learnded on an ER5 i did.
northwind
06-03-06, 12:46 PM
The SV is a wet clutch, but the oil's mainly in the sump. I've nmever had mine otu with oil still in the engine but it seems likely that it should be fine to do it on the sidestand.
I like bikes. Cars, if you want to change a clutch, you need a crane. SVs, you undo a handful of bolts and it comes out :)
Carsick
06-03-06, 12:47 PM
Negatory me hearty - in the main they are of the dry sort, but some are wet.
Sorry, bikes are mostly wet clutches. BMWs, Harleys, Ducatis are some of the few that use dry plates.
I sit corrected on my ever flattening posterior!!
Warthog
06-03-06, 12:58 PM
So when the bike is on the side stand, the clutch is accesible from the right (higher) side, and therefore most of the oil has drained away to the left of the bike??
Peter Henry
06-03-06, 12:59 PM
Carsick...I second your comment sir. The majority of motorcycles do indeed have a wet clutch. For extra safety many people would maybe prefer to drain the oil before attempting the job which really adds so little time to the job.
* A point made by a longer standing forum member in the past was...that unless you are sure that the advice/comments you are making regarding technical issues are correct...then perhaps best not to comment as you could lead some to end up with problems due to your incorrect information*
Sorry if I am being a pedant. :?
northwind
06-03-06, 01:00 PM
So when the bike is on the side stand, the clutch is accesible from the right (higher) side, and therefore most of the oil has drained away to the left of the bike??
Zackly. It might lose some, really not sure.
Carsick...I second your comment sir. The majority of motorcycles do indeed have a wet clutch. For extra safety many people would maybe prefer to drain the oil before attempting the job which really adds so little time to the job.
* A point made by a longer standing forum member in the past was...that unless you are sure that the advice/comments you are making regarding technical issues are correct...then perhaps best not to comment as you could lead some to end up with problems due to your incorrect information*
Sorry if I am being a pedant. :?
Quite Peter, should this not be in sv tuning and tweaking as its technical?
Maybe I too am a little pendant
* A point made by a longer standing forum member in the past was...that unless you are sure that the advice/comments you are making regarding technical issues are correct...then perhaps best not to comment as you could lead some to end up with problems due to your incorrect information*
Ah, you mean B.A.S.A.T. approval? :lol:
Sorry if I am being a peasant. :?
We love you anyway Peter :wink: .
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So when the bike is on the side stand, the clutch is accesible from the right (higher) side, and therefore most of the oil has drained away to the left of the bike??
Zackly. It might lose some, really not sure.
s'true!
I changed the o ring seal on the clutch cover without draining the oil. Lost a couple of teaspoons that's all.
Warthog
06-03-06, 01:10 PM
Well by posting it it has made me aware of quite a few things, and people (Sid Squid mainly) always reply with tweaks and corrections so overall one gets a good overal picture of how to do it. I have to admit, I previously thought changing a clutch would be a dealer job, and now I might try it myself (apart from I have a new clutch from the last service).
It may have been easy, but not Idle banter hehe. Although he probably posted it in Idle banter precisely BECAUSE it isn't a definite guide on how to do it, just to show us that he managed it quickly and easily.
Lost a couple of teaspoons that's all.
Didn't that give a rather disconcerting rattling sound?
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Lost a couple of teaspoons that's all.
Didn't that give a rather disconcerting rattling sound?
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I refuse to laugh at that. :roll:
oh all right.
:lol: :lol:
mysteryjimbo
06-03-06, 01:25 PM
So when the bike is on the side stand, the clutch is accesible from the right (higher) side, and therefore most of the oil has drained away to the left of the bike??
Zackly. It might lose some, really not sure.
Didnt loose a drop on my gixxer. Its the same on most bikes.
Its a really good idea to give the plates a good "soaking" in oil before fitting as you loose a fair bit of friction material whilst the engine is coating them.
Peter Henry
06-03-06, 01:38 PM
Jonboy...You are too kind by far. :P
I changed the o ring seal on the clutch cover without draining the oil. Lost a couple of teaspoons that's all.
They would have been beside the gear-selector forks..........
Coat :oops:
No oil lost at all when on the side stand. The bike wasnt started before hand so the oil had drained to the left hand side of the sump overnight. As i was short of spare oil, i just run some clean oil around the plates before dropping them in, so they wheren't dry
Biker Biggles
06-03-06, 01:53 PM
If you lose the two teaspoons how do you then stir the gearbox? :wink:
Taxi!
Jeez!
Talk about flogging the teaspoon joke! :roll:
Biker Biggles
06-03-06, 02:01 PM
Wait till I start on "how to get more power by correct use of the tuning fork" :lol:
Jeez!
Talk about flogging the teaspoon joke! :roll:
Ah, the knives are out.
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Sadly, I appear to be left with a colander...for a brain! :lol:
tinpants
06-03-06, 02:37 PM
:offtopic:
Enough digression. Can we get back to the point please? :thumbsup: :D
:offtopic:
Enough digression. Can we get back to the point please? :thumbsup: :D
Oooh....hark at her!
Carry on
A bit of "pot calling the kettle black" there, methinks.........
tinpants
07-03-06, 09:44 AM
A bit of "pot calling the kettle black" there, methinks.........
Really!? By whom?? :D :D
rictus01
07-03-06, 10:00 AM
Well by posting it it has made me aware of quite a few things, and people (Sid Squid mainly) always reply with tweaks and corrections so overall one gets a good overal picture of how to do it. I have to admit, I previously thought changing a clutch would be a dealer job, and now I might try it myself (apart from I have a new clutch from the last service).
It may have been easy, but not Idle banter hehe. Although he probably posted it in Idle banter precisely BECAUSE it isn't a definite guide on how to do it, just to show us that he managed it quickly and easily.
Just by way of a warning, i see you have one of the pointy ones, they don't have a detatchable clutch cover and you need to remove the whole offside engine case, you will have oil lost as this is a good 3 inches lower than the biottom lip of the clutch cover on the classic bikes.
Cheers Mark.
Ceri JC
07-03-06, 10:17 AM
Just by way of a warning, i see you have one of the pointy ones, they don't have a detatchable clutch cover and you need to remove the whole offside engine case, you will have oil lost as this is a good 3 inches lower than the biottom lip of the clutch cover on the classic bikes.
Cheers Mark.
So for pointies, it'd definately be worth draining the oil first (and replacing it afterwards!)?
As someone else mentioned, a mechanic told me it was a good idea to leave wet clutch plates overnight in (new) engine oil before fitting them, otherwise they'll be "dry" when you first use them and this could lead to them being a bit cooked.
A bit of "pot calling the kettle black" there, methinks.........
Really!? By whom?? :D :D
Ooops, guess I'm out of the frying pan and into the fire now :roll:
:wink:
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