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Blazingsvbiker
13-03-06, 04:56 PM
Hello

iam doing some mods on my SV650 8) and new i would like to lift the tail of the bike a little bit because i bought a new undertail for it in blue, same color as bike instead of the black stock one

wich is the best way do that ?
any modders here? :twisted:

pic of my :twisted: sv:
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/302/sv6507uz.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sv6507uz.jpg)

Let me know

jambo
13-03-06, 04:58 PM
If you're not worried about altering the geometry of the bike, shorter dog-bones for the rear shock, or a custom made taller shock will raise the back end up

John Burt
13-03-06, 05:00 PM
from memory the rear subframe is bolted on - how about making some steel plates to extend the lower mounting point, that wuld raise raise the **** end.

Blazingsvbiker
13-03-06, 05:03 PM
is there no way to lift the tail a bit by regulating the origanal yellow rear suspension?, because i dont want to change anything about the look, shape of my bike, i just want to lift that tail a little bit so the undertail is more visible 8)

Blazingsvbiker
13-03-06, 05:12 PM
@jambo shorter the bones that sounds like a serious work and changing shape/panels
if i should do that i wouldnt prob. be able to use the black little grill anymore (in the middle of the bike)
@john maybe....

There must be some people here who already bought a new undertail and lifted the ass of the bike so they can show it of more? (without shapechanging)

madmal
13-03-06, 05:13 PM
no idea mate, nice looking bike though :D

Blazingsvbiker
13-03-06, 05:18 PM
Thx, but i tought that it wouldnt be that "difficult" to lift a tail of an sv :roll:
my first idea was to put the rear suspension harder or put a little steel plate under it so it would rise a little or is that a bad idea?

fizzwheel
13-03-06, 05:32 PM
If you're not worried about altering the geometry of the bike, shorter dog-bones for the rear shock, or a custom made taller shock will raise the back end up

This is the best way. If you look at your shock linkage from under the bike you'll see a short piece of metal either side of the shock mount shaped like a bone. If you get some shorter ones of these it will raise the rear end of the bike up which should then have the effect you are after.

Alternatively dropping the yokes through the front forks a few mm, will also do the same.

HTH

carelesschucca
13-03-06, 06:22 PM
is it the whole bike you want lifted or just the subframe???

The Butler
13-03-06, 08:09 PM
Get that old SV suspension out and get a GSX-r SRAD Suspension fittet...should bring yer **** up around 3cm :wink: . You should find no trouble finding them for little money on ebay etc. See instructions on www.svrider.com under tips for instance.

northwind
13-03-06, 09:45 PM
Personally, I really don't like shorter dogbones combined with the stock shock... makes the bike feel nervous on hard acceleration on anything but a smooth road. Never became a real control issue, just gave me a constant uneasy feeling, like something could go wrong.

They're not hard to fit. The hardest thing is supporting the rear, since your dismantling part of the rear suspension. An ABBA or NWS stand makes it easy, or you can hang it from a roof, support it with wooden bars under the subframe, things like that.

Richie
13-03-06, 11:02 PM
if your just gona raise the tail section then your side plastics and seat might not align..

just a thought

Blazingsvbiker
14-03-06, 10:00 AM
yeah Richie1743, that isnt what i want, i would like to keep my orignals panels ALL of them, and rais the back just for a few cm's (2-3)

But i dont think there isnt any solution to this problem, when you start lifting the tail i think you always have to adjust the panels or that little black grill in the middle of the bike (just like the sport bikes when they lift it, they also have to adjust some panels and ect.)

@northwind idd the feeling of unstable driving at high speed or acceleration or wheelying!

@butler, this without changing any plastic panels or something of the bike??

@carelesschucca, i just want to lift the whole tail a bit without changing the "original" look of the panels

fizzwheel
14-03-06, 10:11 AM
Is this the kind of look you want or do you want lift the tail more than this ?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/fizzwheel/DSCN0566.jpg

My bikes had the front forks droped through the yokes, when you park it next to a standard SV, you definately tell that the rear of the bike is sat up higher than standard

Blazingsvbiker
14-03-06, 10:15 AM
yeah!! thats it mate! :D

so i just have to drop the front fork through the yokes, with other words i have to set the 2 front suspensions in level 7 right? (7= lowest level)

fizzwheel
14-03-06, 10:23 AM
As for doing it I dont know how to, It'll be a case of undoing the clamps or something like that and then sliding the forks through the yoke and then doing it all back up again.

I'm not sure what you are refering to by "level 7"

Heres a thread where we discussed doing this a while back, see if that helps you

http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=28565&highlight=drop+forks+yoke

northwind
14-03-06, 10:40 AM
@northwind idd the feeling of unstable driving at high speed or acceleration or wheelying!

To be fair, mine's also dropped at the front and up about 10bhp, so that'd make any problems worse... Shouldn't affect wheelying other than making it a bit harder due to the weight distribution.

Dropping the forks is different from using the preload adjustment (the knobs on top of the forks).

Blazingsvbiker
14-03-06, 11:07 AM
idd Dropping the forks is different from using the preload adjustment

was wrong first lol maybe iam going to drop the forks, i think thats a save way to lift the tail while keeping all my panels, any1 who did this be4 is it hard to do?
any special recommends ?

John Burt
14-03-06, 11:23 AM
Ah all is now lear IMHO I'd fit the shorter rear dog bones and drop the forks throught he yokes by 8mm - thats what I did anyway, yes it made it harder to get on the back wheel and slightly quicker to turn in. But I was not bothered by the nervous feling that Northy was on about. Somewhere I have the dimensions of the set I made if you e-mail me I'll send them too you.

Captain Nemo
14-03-06, 01:19 PM
altering the preload on the springs will have hardly any effect on the hieght of the bike, to drop the yokes, undo the bolts holding each yoke to fork and lower the bike a small amount 5-10mm should be ok, anymore and youll screw up the geometry, shorter dog bones on the back shock wont alter any of the bodywork or anything, just sit the back of the bike higher, if you fit shorter bones though, watch the front cos if youve dropped the bike through the yokes as well it might be a little scary.............

The Butler
14-03-06, 04:16 PM
You'll have to make minor ajustments to the clamps and the cut a bit of the plastic where the battery sits. But otherwise...no problems as far as I know. Lots of guys have done it over here. And you can definately notice a difference without having to invest too much.

gc350
16-03-06, 05:14 PM
Take a look here

http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?p=502366#502366

If you need any more info let me know.