View Full Version : You couldn't help with the brakes BUT how about the chain??
_Stretchie_
26-03-06, 02:06 PM
I am going to buy a new chain, I NEED one. but I want to do it. Can't learn unless you have a go eh.
Question is
A: Any advice as to which chain and how much?
B: Anyone can help/assist/overview/babysit* me. I know you need some special tools so I'm hoping one of you lurvley people can help?
C: Do I need or should I get a new sprocket while I'm at it?
Cheers
Stretchie (Thundercat NOT SV)
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valleyboy
26-03-06, 02:13 PM
Right, I just bought a new chain/sprocket set...
I bought it from hein Gericke, it cost £101 all in.... thats for 2 sprockets and a chain.... prices will probably differ rear sprockets easy to change, take rear wheel off, undo bolts, plonk on new one... front sprocket needs a bit more work. Im having the garage do mine now, as I almost tipped the bike over trying to wrench the bugger off! You will probably also need a new washer for the front sprocket as well, you put it on, tighten the nut, and bend it over the nut then so it cant undo itself.
As for chains, you will need to split the old one and get that off... or if you want, dremmel the critter off!
new chain, you will have a rivet link... this is where that tool is needed.. and they aint cheap.... again, garage is doing mine, as I wont trust myself with that! :lol:
With above questions, replace sprockets and chain at the same time..
I wont mind giving a hand, but i will be learning at the same time.. and also have people to phone for advice if it goes FUBAR! :lol:
Do you have a rear paddock stand ? as you will need to take the rear wheel off...
Ohh, you may want to do some reasearch into what sprockets etc you want.. as original ones are rather expensive.... Renthal are what ive ended up with... and have a look at the toothing.. make sure you have the right sprockets and chain length
tinpants
26-03-06, 10:01 PM
Busters were doing a suitable c+s set for around 90 quid plus postage. Give 'em a bell and see if they can help.
and you still want to do this????
From what I know, it's a false economy to replace chain & sprockets separately: one will just destroy the other.
As for fitting them yourself, I would be inclined to get it done professionally, especially if you've an endless chain, which is likely.
Just got mine from here...
Trade Direct (http://www.stealthproducts.co.uk/products/sprocket.php)
90 quid plus postage... Xring chain...
Or there is
B & C Express (http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/cgi-bin/bc_page.pl?cat=KITS-ROAD&nav=Suzuki)
starts at 95 quid for x-ring chain
If I'm around I'll happily overview you doing this.. perhaps make the tea! :wink: ...
Havent done an SV one to know but would happily lend a hand if one hand is any good.. other one will be drinking tea :wink:
Anonymous
27-03-06, 04:16 PM
If I'm around I'll happily overview you doing this.. perhaps make the tea! :wink: ...
Havent done an SV one to know but would happily lend a hand if one hand is any good.. other one will be drinking tea :wink:
If you guys want a garage, come over to mine and I'll help........by making the tea :wink: :lol:
valleyboy
27-03-06, 04:28 PM
looks like a gathering of the mechanicaly challenged then!! :lol:
Torque wrench anyone??
hmm, my bike should have an endless chain, but like hell am I taking the swingarm off to do all that work... as is, the one supplied wasnt endless, and its being fitted on Thursday.. which means a treck over the mountains for me in what can be said as shait weather! which happens to be windy as hell on a good day :?
Now I must go and put my Iridium spark plugs in the bike...
Anonymous
27-03-06, 04:42 PM
looks like a gathering of the mechanicaly challenged then!! :lol:
Torque wrench anyone??
Aha...got you there, I have one (a 6-80) :wink:
valleyboy
27-03-06, 04:52 PM
thank god for that,,, the one I have is fecking massive and will do up to about 150 N.m which is about as much as I can push/pull/jump up and down on it anyway! :lol:
rear axel nuts tend to be around 100 N.m (all I know is that 125N.m is approx 90 ft.lb, as this is how much I have to torque mine)
I have a selection of front and rear stands.. but as I have no drivers lisence.... thats buggerd that up anyway! :lol: might not need stands, all depends..
Does the Thundercat have a centre stand ?? just might have to have the heaviest of us sit on the front wheel while the work is being carried out.....
Ive lost weight, and now sit at a respectible 14.5 stone! will loose more weight to make sure Im not heaviest..... :lol:
_Stretchie_
27-03-06, 11:38 PM
looks like a gathering of the mechanicaly challenged then!! :lol:
Torque wrench anyone??
hmm, my bike should have an endless chain, but like hell am I taking the swingarm off to do all that work... as is, the one supplied wasnt endless, and its being fitted on Thursday.. which means a treck over the mountains for me in what can be said as shait weather! which happens to be windy as hell on a good day :?
Now I must go and put my Iridium spark plugs in the bike...
Well then. I suggest a meet up at approx 08:30 a two hour ride which ends at Dr Richs place and approx 20 of us who have never done this before can then commence pulling my bike to bits to try and change the chain and sprokets.
Oh, I MAY need a lift home by the end of the day..ring my little tools kit and socket set...
And in response to Anna's question. Yeah, I still want to do it... Where there's no sense there's no feeling... I.E.. I'm stoopid and I want to try :D
valleyboy
28-03-06, 06:36 AM
Dont learn if you dont try
:thumbsup:
I take bits off my bike at regular intervals... :lol:
Well then. I suggest a meet up at approx 08:30 a two hour ride which ends at Dr Richs place and approx 20 of us who have never done this before can then commence pulling my bike to bits to try and change the chain and sprokets.
...talk about stitching your mates up :roll: :wink:
chain chainging is a doddle :D
got the tools, easy peasy, chain breaker, socket set , spanners , torque wrench , bike stand and some space if you need to borrow anything I"m JUST down the road in STOKE GIFFORD !
REMEMBER THE SOONER YOU START TO MAINTAIN YOUR OWN BIKE YOU THEN WILL KNOW ITS DONE PROPERLY AND HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER!
Anonymous
28-03-06, 05:17 PM
chain chainging is a doddle :D
got the tools, easy peasy, chain breaker, socket set , spanners , torque wrench , bike stand and some space if you need to borrow anything I"m JUST down the road in STOKE GIFFORD !
REMEMBER THE SOONER YOU START TO MAINTAIN YOUR OWN BIKE YOU THEN WILL KNOW ITS DONE PROPERLY AND HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER!
Stretchie, take up this man's offer. You know it makes sense.
Hi, John!
_Stretchie_
28-03-06, 06:58 PM
chain chainging is a doddle :D
got the tools, easy peasy, chain breaker, socket set , spanners , torque wrench , bike stand and some space if you need to borrow anything I"m JUST down the road in STOKE GIFFORD !
REMEMBER THE SOONER YOU START TO MAINTAIN YOUR OWN BIKE YOU THEN WILL KNOW ITS DONE PROPERLY AND HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER!
Bloody hell mate, I just checked Multimap and you are but a stones throw away. If that's alright with you I'd like to rip your arm off at that offer. I need to buy the chain first.
I'll PM you to say hi
Stretchie
P.S. You up for a wee drink tomorrow (or Thursday) in the Rhubarb in Clifton
Anonymous
28-03-06, 09:05 PM
You'll probably have to email or PM him Stretchie..he is the elusive Pimpernell of the Surfers :wink: 8)
_Stretchie_
29-03-06, 01:48 AM
You'll probably have to email or PM him Stretchie..he is the elusive Pimpernell of the Surfers :wink: 8)
He doesn't drink at 'The Pimpernickel' does he?
_Stretchie_
29-03-06, 01:55 PM
Right, I've just ordered the required items. Should be delivered on Friday to work, out with you lot on Saturday and hopefully do it on Sunday
Johnd
Could you give us a bell or drop me a PM with your number and I'll ring you. I might need to borrow your things... :D And maybe you, if you are free on Sunday, but if not then it's not a problem, I have destructions......... Errr, I mean INSTRUCTIONS
Dr Rich / Anna
If I borrow Johns tools and do it at mine then you are both more than welcome to come and laugh at me while drinking tea (well coffee, I don't have any tea, I don't drink it. But all the coffee you can drink is there for you) and then hopefully a pootle out on the bike to test it :D
John, you are OBVIOUSLY also most welcome to come laugh/help/take the pi$$. Unless you'd prefer me to do it at yours as they would be your tools
Stretchie
Right, I've just ordered the required items. Should be delivered on Friday to work, out with you lot on Saturday and hopefully do it on Sunday
Johnd
Could you give us a bell or drop me a PM with your number and I'll ring you. I might need to borrow your things... :D And maybe you, if you are free on Sunday, but if not then it's not a problem, I have destructions......... Errr, I mean INSTRUCTIONS
Dr Rich / Anna
If I borrow Johns tools and do it at mine then you are both more than welcome to come and laugh at me while drinking tea (well coffee, I don't have any tea, I don't drink it. But all the coffee you can drink is there for you) and then hopefully a pootle out on the bike to test it :D
John, you are OBVIOUSLY also most welcome to come laugh/help/take the pi$$. Unless you'd prefer me to do it at yours as they would be your tools
Stretchie
sounds like a laugh I'll see what the weekend turns out like.. (I have a feeling I might already be booked sunday)
Anonymous
29-03-06, 03:10 PM
I am busy sunday I'm afraid, Stretchie
I'd be interested in witnessing the spectacle.... sorry, event.
I'd be interested in witnessing the spectacle.... sorry, event.
If your going we need pics okay?!!
ok mate will contact you probably best at yours if you have garage will ring later on for decision!
busy saturday at moment ,actually sunday as well unless i can reschedule what i"ve got going on.
:twisted:
_Stretchie_
29-03-06, 08:38 PM
Yeah got a garage but no electric in it, but won't need a light during the day anyway.
Saturday I'm out with ValleyBoy and the others too. Any chance you could make the ride?
Speak to you soon
valleyboy
29-03-06, 09:15 PM
I'd pop along if allowed... dont know if I am working this sunday... I need the cash now, slight overspend on bike parts this week :oops:
I need to take the panels off the bike, and grease the suspension linkage.... could show you lot how to strip a Ninja to bits then! :lol: all only using the bikes toolkit as well!
_Stretchie_
02-04-06, 11:16 PM
Hey hey, It's all good
:lol:
does that mean youve fixed them now?
_Stretchie_
03-04-06, 08:56 AM
The brakes could do with being a bit sharper, brake lever travels a bit, BUT the brakes work fine. So no worries there.
New chain and sprockets all in and working. Woo hooo. May need a new tyre next month but at least I can take the back wheel off now and take it in so that'll cost less than last time, 3 months ago...
And going to have a go at servicing it maybe next months. Depends how much I spend on the rear tyre
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