Simple Website Design

[sharriso74]

Does anyone have any suggestions as to a good tool to do a simple website.
I was thinking about using Frontpage as I've played with that before.

It's a site for my parents as they have a holiday cottage in Yorkshire they want to rent out. Just needs to be a couuple of pages with pictures and an email enquiry form type thing.

Thanks

[Gnan]

i'll do it for you if you send me the pictures :P

[Jelster]

As long as the ISP supports Front Page, it couldn't be much easier. Use a "theme" and away you go...

If you want to get it looking very "corporate" it's a little more difficult, but mine's all done in FP. www.urbanbiker.co.uk

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[Viney]

dreamwaever. Most ISP's dont support Front pae, as i found out a couple of years ago.

[jonboy]

FrontPage is awful. If you're after a free tool, try NVU http://www.nvu.com.


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[sharriso74]

Thanks I'll give that a go. Although with broadband and bit torrent most software is 'free' :oops:

[jonboy]

Best not to take that route ;).


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[Grinch]

<scribles down little note>
Oh... I'll have a look at that, my old site (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/thegrinch/) is in frontpage. Nothing flash, didn't use any special extension so it didn't matter that the server didn't support it.

[sharriso74]

Found one I want it similar to

www.cottageinthedales.co.uk

How tricky is this, I work in IT on the support side so i'm not a complete numpty all though some developers I've met may say otherwise

[Grinch]

Found one I want it similar to

www.cottageinthedales.co.uk

How tricky is this, I work in IT on the support side so i'm not a complete numpty all though some developers I've met may say otherwise

looks rather simple to me.. only 2 frames... and some pics and words, nothing fancy from what I can see. Should be easy, you could even just nick the source code and use it for yourself.

[GSXR Carlos]

can nobody write in html anymore? :lol: haven't done it for a while, i used to use dreamweaver < very good but any thing for free is kewl :wink:

[jonboy]

No frames :)


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[TSM]

Exactly no frame in that, Grinch your not on the ball.

Frames are a big no no nowerdays, its all about DIVs & CSS2

[independentphoto]

You could try Adobe GoLive. I thought that was pretty decent.

Garry

[Anonymous]

There's some great downloadable templates about. I personally like these guys ones

http://www.studio7designs.com/index.html

you can then just modify to suit. Works well. I like nautica 03 but 2.2 liquid is good too.

Loads of ideas here and templates to download

http://www.oswd.org/

[Grinch]

Exactly no frame in that, Grinch your not on the ball.

Frames are a big no no nowerdays, its all about DIVs & CSS2

Sorry distracted by AIX installs.

[Gnan]

simple HTML / CSS

knock up the menu as a header file and include it in every page. use CSS to control the styles.

[Jelster]

Just build everything in tables, keeps it one size and it's easy...

I can't belive that "most ISP's don't support FrontPage" when it's the number 1 selling web design tool... Some "hosting" companies may not, but most decent home ISP's do, as far as I am aware...

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[jonboy]

Well it has to be a Windows server, and a lot of hosting is Unix.


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[Grinch]

So what is the no, no with frames now?

[Anonymous]

Just build everything in tables, keeps it one size and it's easy...
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Outlawed here, dont ask me why :?

[timwilky]

Well it has to be a Windows server, and a lot of hosting is Unix.


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The number of complaints I get from new customers (Internal corporate hosting) that our cr@p hoting is not working yet works fine on their development server. You look at a lot of dodgy html and tell them to sort their case usage out.

We then offer them a lower cost option whereby they get their site on a proper content managed system. They have proper editorial control, timed releases of notices, conformance with corporate graphic standards etc. Suddenly the mupper in the corner who was knocking out HTML instead of doing his job, real does look like a muppet.

At last count we were hosting over 200 servers, granted some are duplicated into clusters for perfomance and reliability. We use predominately RHES and Solaris with Websphere cluster, and tomcat application servers, Apache front end presentation server for static content, redundant Checkpoint Firewall 1 firewalls partioning the hosting environment into presentation, application and data servers. Segregating Internet and Intranet applicions by networks and firewall controlling those, Oracle clusters on Sun Solaris. Internet access from two providers on seperate SDH loops with fail over between the providers. We then run windoze for those applications that cannot run on *nix. and sqlserver etc. At the very end of the database provision we then have a couple of MySql boxes but the user must have a damm good reason to need them. That coupled with spreading load accross muliple server rooms, each fed from seperate motor gens and 100% over capacity ac etc adds up to a couple of million bucks worth on infrastructure. Dedicated ops staff for machine/os, dedicated DBAs, dedicated hosting staff for websphere, tomcat, apache, plus the content management stuff like open market, cocoon, jahia, dedicated checkpoint/cisco/wan staff plus project managers etc. Then the customer says I can get all I need for £100/year from fred blogs hosting.

At which time you shout. God preserve me from amateurs.

[Gnan]

i'm glad frontpage is around, coz it keeps people like me in coding jobs ;)