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gary1973
10-04-06, 01:17 PM
:shock: Morning all :!: just to let all those who remarked on my down pipe yesterday,that it is now gleaming :lol: ive just got back in after a swift 100 miles on the bike and had my first near miss,as im polite i will call him an elderly chap looked at me twice at a junction and then still pulled out on me :evil: ive only been a rider for a short time and im learning more every day,but im still amazed how drivers, say they dont see bikers,i had lights on red white and black leathers on and a bright helmet sitting on a bright red bike :!: :!: :!: what a t@@t :!: but that my rant over for today,and they will never put me off riding,,stay safe everyone :lol: :lol:
as im polite....
what a t@@t :!:
:D :D
glad you're ok and you were aware of the "elderly chap"
its as much about anticipation as good riding skills
as im polite....
what a t@@t :!:
:D :D
is that t@@t as in **** or t@@t as in t@rt? :lol:
not sure if you are referring to the elderly chap in the former, or your self in your matching leathers in the latter :lol: :lol: :wink:
ps glad it was ok in the end. stay safe!
Glad you're ok mate, 100 miles and only one person tried to kill you.
Standard of driving in Northampton must be improving :wink:
Its amazing the cr@p that goes on. Always asume that everthing that can happen might happen and never totaly rely on any signals or signs that are being given.
I nearly got rear ended on sat by some guy that crossed two lanes and did not realise that there was me in lane 3, he nealy took out the guy behind be as well. It was wet and aparently PAPALCART told me that he slammed on his brakes and he could hear the ABS working as it was wet. As he was crossing several lanes at the same time there would have been no chance to see him.
Spiderman
10-04-06, 02:44 PM
I ride as tho every cager out there is trying to get me. I assume the worst behaviour from them all and plan for it.
In the area i live, lets just say its the best thing to do and has saved my bacon a good few times.
This is very normal in my area.....
3 lanes of dual carriagway, all empty except me in the outside lane.
Car in side road waiting to join and you would assume they will pull into the lane near them, drive in a straight line and change lanes when its clear.
No, they pull out, across lane 1, into lane 2, then pull into lane 3 and go slower than the traffic! thats now passing them in the other 2 lanes :shock: :hackedoff:
You have to see it to believe it some days.
Expect the worst and plan for it and hopefully it wont happen and you'll have a smooth ride.
mudge32
10-04-06, 02:49 PM
The SMIDSY fairy's been visiting folk again eh?
I got t-boned years ago, waiting to turn right off a main road. I would't have minded so much if I hadn't been in front of the silly mare for about a minute and a half!!!! :wink:
3 lanes of dual carriagway, all empty except me in the outside lane.
Car in side road waiting to join and you would assume they will pull into the lane near them, drive in a straight line and change lanes when its clear.
No, they pull out, across lane 1, into lane 2, then pull into lane 3 and go slower than the traffic! thats now passing them in the other 2 lanes :shock: :hackedoff:
I used work as a technical sales consultant for a software firm, one of the sales execs used to take great pride in doing this, slip road to lane three in one fluid movement, he used to call it "the rep move"
What a :toss:
Technically, a near miss would be a hit!! :wink:
Now, a near hit would be a miss................
coat
but im still amazed how drivers, say they dont see bikers,
They dont, after a while you wont be amazed. Just sadly acknowledging of it.
i had lights on red white and black leathers on and a bright helmet sitting on a bright red bike :!: :!: :!:
None of them are guaranteed to make you any more seen than if you didnt have your lights on, wore bright pink/green leathers, or wore a black helmet.
Seriously, joking aside with the above paraphrasing of the survival skills crew on visordown, its a big topic of discussion on that section whether the current wisdom of DRLs [daylight riding lights] do actually make you more visible, or whether hi vis stuff works any time other than night etc.
It worries me reading comments like this that there is an underlying assumption that because you've done what they told you on DAS and in the highway code so you must be visible.
Theres whole threads on visordown about motion camoflauge dealing with the fact you could be on a bright yellow bike but you still wont get seen, and ways to avoid it. Tbh, the only thing you should be assuming is they havent seen you and are going to pull out.
Anticipate that, slow down approaching the junction and plan an escape route - going round the front of the car may not be the best alternative to going behind it - at least you dont have to worry about oncoming traffic that way.
Anyone interested on the lights/hi vis/visibility debates can find the threads here (http://www.visordown.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11).
But glad you escaped unscathed. :D
i looked at your link lyn, and can i just say christ there's some ********s on visordown!! :shock:
i looked at your link lyn, and can i just say christ there's some ********s on visordown!! :shock:
And in amongst a lot of that is an awful lot of good advice and wisdom.
But in that part of the forum are the threads about motion camoflauge and visibility which are interesting reading as theyre usually quotes of studies and research.
Glad your ok...i joined you in the near miss brigade at the weekend....luckily white van man was paying attention to the road otherwise i would've ended up licking his windscreen [-o<
And it was all my own fault :oops:
I rounded a gentle left hander at relatively low speed-30/40mph i went in too shallow and ended up on the wrong side of the road in total panic i sat the bike upright only to be confronted by the afore mentioned white van...i think my eyeballs touched the inside of my visor...and something else was touching cloth :oops:
Luckily for me the driver took quick evasive action and swerved too avoid me.
I only passed my test in December and thought my riding was ok..oh how wrong can one be.
Totally fooked my confidence up, was $h1T scared of going into any corner :cry:
Luckily i had my brother too ask for advice (30 years biking experience) he came out with me and followed me for a while then told me where i was going wrong,
Suppose it needs a scary moment too bring you back too reality...hopefully i'll never have one of those again.
Thank you Mr white van man for being so alert..i'll never slag one off again....until i get cut up :twisted:
Be careful peeps :wink:
PS: anyone know where i can get me leathers dry cleaned :lol:
gary1973
10-04-06, 05:00 PM
Thanks to you all for the advice,i know ive still got years of learning ahead of me :oops: I just knew he was going to do it,i did slow up abit and looked at me twice and still did it,i had to chose hit him go to the left or on the wrong side of the road and risk have a head on,i went left and got away with it :lol: :lol: :lol:
But nevermind lesson learned and all that :shock: im fast learning to treat everything on the road as a danger :evil: :evil: once again thanks :D :D
Glad your ok...i joined you in the near miss ................. get me leathers dry cleaned :lol:
Reading this reminded me of a scary I had whilst at the tale end of 5 of my mates going round a sharp left hander.
All mates have fast sports machines and are used to leaning a fair amount.
I can lean quite far confidently......... I Digress....
Being as at the back, it was just me left to tip into the left hand bend. Half way round I saw a small drain cover that had sunk an inch or so into road. For some reason, I had visions of my wheels slipping away from under me, when in reality it would have been so quick to go over I wouldn't have noticed.
On seeing said drain cover I panicked momentarily and a little flick of the bars, (to miss drain cover), put me upright, pushing me into the RH lane! I estimate I was doing 35-40, but it was a brown trouser moment. Luckily for me the cars in opposite direction where a way, away, but I would have had a head on if there was a car on RH side if there was one there! Ouch :oops:
The car behind me saw it all, young lad and his missus in a Saxo. They backed off! :?
And, when we pulled up for a re-fuel, I said, did you see what happened back there.
Of course, no one did, not even in their mirrors!! :( :)
fizzwheel
10-04-06, 05:06 PM
I just knew he was going to do it
Dont ignore that feeling more often than not I've noticed in the past that if you get a feeling like that its normally going to happen. Its like the force only for bikers instead of Jedi Knights.
But nevermind lesson learned and all that :shock: im fast learning to treat everything on the road as a danger :evil:
Thats the most important thing and its a good way to think about other road users even other bikers.
Glad you got away with it 8)
Dicky Ticker
10-04-06, 06:24 PM
Look on the bright side,it probably won't be your first or last near miss
BUT as long as they are misses they are OK,its when they are not misses it hurts
philipMac
10-04-06, 07:52 PM
My gf had her first proper bike BTM on Sunday. We were out on the twisties in the car in upstate NY national park, and an oncoming lad comes around the bend a little bit too near the middle of the road.
His wheels were just off the white line, and he was leant right over onto our side of the road. We met on the apex of the turn. I could see his eyes open an extra few milimeters. Very very close. He managed to jink it in a bit, and we tightened up onto the hard shoulder. It would have been very nasty. There were about 4 lads right up his ****.
Funny seeing that :shock: look from the car point of veiw.
Well Oiled
10-04-06, 09:32 PM
Technically, a near miss would be a hit!! :wink:
Now, a near hit would be a miss................
coat
You must work in Health & Safety. They make us fill in a 'near hit' form and tell us what you said. I still call it a near miss. :roll:
i looked at your link lyn, and can i just say christ there's some ********s on visordown!! :shock:
And in amongst a lot of that is an awful lot of good advice and wisdom.
But in that part of the forum are the threads about motion camoflauge and visibility which are interesting reading as theyre usually quotes of studies and research.
i'm not doubting that for a moment. just that the first thread i clicked on was about life savers and there was a lot of hot air being blown about the place, a lot of guff being spoken. just saying as i saw. apologies if i've offended!
Technically, a near miss would be a hit!! :wink:
Now, a near hit would be a miss................
coat
You must work in Health & Safety. They make us fill in a 'near hit' form and tell us what you said. I still call it a near miss. :roll:
No not H&S. Just a Tech bod on the phone....
I believe, a near miss was derived from 2 planes nearly colliding and originally called 'in-air miss' which morphed into 'near miss', which is where we get it from..
I say I believe, which could mean it's b*ll*cks!
doesn't even take coat off this time..
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