SV-to-GSXR brake conversions now available

[HighSpeedAssault.com]

Just putting it out there for board members who were inquiring about them.

We are not going to advertise them until our website is completeted, but we do have them available now if any of you guys need a set.
Price is $125. Racer price is $100 (need copy of race license).
Shipping in the US is $8. Credit card fee is 2%. We accept c/c and checks.

Conversion kit includes everything needed to bolt GSXR calipers (00-02/750 and 01-03/600) to your SV650.
Difference in braking is absolutely phenominal, no BS. One-finger lever pressure is all that is needed to slam the front. Best brake modification you can perform to the SV.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/svbrakes.jpg

Anyone who wants a set, email me at SpeedballerZ@hotmail.com for ordering info.

We have a bunch of other products on the way, should have website up in two months or less.
http://www.HighSpeedAssault.com

[Viney]

Dude, have you asked permission to post this on here? Sorry to be a bit strict.

If so, any photos? :)

[Khewett]

A SV dream!

Can the SV forks take brakes this big OK????

If so I'm the first to order them!

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Can the SV forks take brakes this big OK????

I wouldn't have thought so :?

[northwind]

Not even remotely ;) But with suitable upgrades to the forks they'd be superb. That's teh same calipers I'm using on mine, they work a charm, easier to maintain than the SV ones as well.

[slippery]

How would this work with a GSRX front end conversion would it mean that you could use the SV front wheel? Or is this a silly question? Cheers

[Sid Squid]

It's a silly question.

If you have GSXR forks you've already got somewhere to bolt GSXR calipers to, no need for any adaption, as for the wheel there's no point or benefit in mixing it up, if you want GSXR forks just use the whole front end, forks, yokes, wheel the whole thing.

[HighSpeedAssault.com]

In regard to SV-to-GSXR caliper conversion kit.

Our kit consists of machined steel adapter plates, machined (lathed) bushings, and hardware (nutes/bolts). NO other part other than the calipers are needed for installation.

00-02/750 and 01-03/600 GSXR calipers are the same.

In regard to warranty, these are for racing/racetrack applications so like any other aftermarket racing components, no warranty.
We will however, replace any defective parts no charge.
What this is, is a steel plate bolted to your GSXR calipers, it just moves the calipers rearward and inward for correct alignment with the stock SV discs.
The steel plates are stronger tham the cast aluminum fork legs they bolt to.
Comes with instructions.

Racetested in 2005, unbelieveable difference in stopping power and lever pressure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr4.jpg

Phone number for credit card orders is
636-922-2811
Ask for "HighSpeedAssault ordering"


We will also have our SV rearsets available soon.
Since most aftermarket rearsets don't elevate footpegs near high enough for racing, we will have our adpater-plates to give you 2.5" up and 2" rear adjustability. These will work in conjunction with oem or any aftermarket non-adjustable rearset.
We will have these on our website and available in under a month.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/rearset2.jpg


Hope this answers some questions.
Thanks!
http://www.HighSpeedAssault.com

[Razor]

Can the SV forks take brakes this big OK????



Yes they can.
In fact those 4 pot Tokicos are brilliant on a lightweight bike.
I've already ordered my set, on the phone :wink:

[Khewett]

Will they fit a K3 pointy model?

[Razor]

The calipers are the same so I don't see why not.

[Khewett]

The calipers are the same so I don't see why not.

Anyone else confirm?

[Carsick]

The calipers are the same so I don't see why not.

Anyone else confirm?
The calipers haven't changed over the years.

[Khewett]

The calipers are the same so I don't see why not.

Anyone else confirm?
The calipers haven't changed over the years.

Many thanks, think these are next on my to fit list!

[Razor]

Got calipers yet?

[Khewett]

Got calipers yet?

Plenty on the GSXR forums!

[northwind]

Can the SV forks take brakes this big OK????



Yes they can.
In fact those 4 pot Tokicos are brilliant on a lightweight bike.


They are, but the standard forks can't even deal with the standard 2-pots. The limiting factor on a standard SV's brakes is the suspension, not the brakes, IMO- the excessive dive and braking instability reduces the bike's ability to use the braking power. But with an appropriately sprung and damped front end, it'll be different.

(though then I'd like to point out that the cost of rebuilding a standard SV front end to a decent quality, and then these brackets, and the calipers, will most likely be more than a GSXR front end swap)

[HighSpeedAssault.com]

Yes, you will get more dive with these, because the brakes will actually work, especially under track/race conditions. Stock calipers are garbage. IMHO, they are so bad they are semi-dangerous for track usage. They don't stop and require way too much lever pressure (and offer unacceptable 'feel')...and then they still don't shave off speed to an acceptable level. Again, IMHO.
The GSXR conversion fixes both problems.

Fork springs are $100 and should be on any/every bike regardless of which calipers are used. Again, the stock fork springs on the SV are garbage as well.

If your brakes work adequate for you, then the conveersion is overkill. If you are not happy with your brake performance, then is is the answer.
Fork springs are required either way.

[Razor]

I have Race tech emulators, springs and heavier oil. I have a fork brace also to add stiffness. My limiting factor is the calipers. Don't make me buy a HONDA.

[northwind]

Razor- I'd get the calipers! Should be fantastic with that setup.

Going to have to totally disagree with Highspeedassault on the stock calipers, to be honest, and there's plenty of others that would say the same. But that's not to say it's not worth replacing them with better.

There's no more total power there than you can get from a well sorted set of standard calipers (talking nothing more than keeping them in top shape, and a set of good pads, plus braided lines)- you can lock the front in the dry, or flip the bike with standard after all.

But total power's not the issue, what you do with it is, and the GSXR calipers give better feel and feedback as he says. It's incredibly difficult to use the full potential of the SV calipers for that reason, which is why you can throw of speed faster with the 4-pots.

In wet or bad conditions, the progressiveness and feel is just so much better.

[Razor]

The calipers are the one thing I've always disliked about the SV and the bandit 600 for that matter. I just couldn't justify spending a months mortgage on a set of BILLET mini-6 :shock:

[21QUEST]

Never liked caliper brackets myself :P
:lol:

Cheers
Ben

[Khewett]

Well I've ordered a pair, and sourced some K2 GSXR600 caliper like the pics.

Will post my thoughts in a few weeks when bits have arrived and are fitted!

My forks have upgraded springs and heavier oil so will see how it goes.

[HighSpeedAssault.com]

But total power's not the issue, what you do with it is, and the GSXR calipers give better feel and feedback as he says. It's incredibly difficult to use the full potential of the SV calipers for that reason, which is why you can throw of speed faster with the 4-pots.

In wet or bad conditions, the progressiveness and feel is just so much better.

Good point 8)

[northwind]

Oh aye, meant to say- for really good brakes, try matching the 4-pots to a better master cylinder. That was always the weakness of the GSXRs. Brembo radial here 8) And it's utterly, totally, the business.

[Nexus242]

Dude, have you asked permission to post this on here? Sorry to be a bit strict.

If so, any photos? :)

His post got pulled on SVRider.Com by the mods there.

:)

[Captain Nemo]

cant see why it should get pulled here,

we dont charge for or take adverts so i see it as a good thing when a company comes up with something good for the SV, like to see what the results are when someone gets em on, sounds really cool though, now where me credit card...................

[Khewett]

cant see why it should get pulled here,

we dont charge for or take adverts so i see it as a good thing when a company comes up with something good for the SV, like to see what the results are when someone gets em on, sounds really cool though, now where me credit card...................

Agreed, SV owners have been waiting for this for a while

[northwind]

Aye, but the site owners ask that people using the site for advertising let them know first, seems to be pretty much as a courtesy. Which might well have happened.

[Peter Henry]

One day Northwind,following a tadge of drilling and cutting and filing......will come on here to tell how you can fit some REAL brakes to your SV...I refer of course to BREMBO! :P


*But of course I would,wouldn't I?* :wink:

[northwind]

Few bent coathangers would do the job I think. Or a GSXR front end with the Brembo fitment kit ;)

[Warren]

why not just drop the SV engine into a GSX-R ?

voila- a better (and more expensive) bike :)

[northwind]

Well, serious answer, it won't fit ;)

[Nexus242]

Humm I wonder if plates will be made to fit other bike brakes to the SV. R1, R6, CBRs and Kawa ZXs all have decent front brakes, far better then the SV, and are possibly less in demand then GSXRs front ends are. It would be nice to able to have a wider choice of brakes to buy on Scambay.

[HighSpeedAssault.com]

For those who don't want the high performance calipers that are the easiest in the world to find, we do offer one other model which is for the calipers from the 1989 Moto Guzzi Carbera GTS Special Edition, which was only sold in Morrocco. If you know any Morroccan Moto Guzzi dealers, contact them ASAP, before supplies are exhausted.

:lol: J/K
Seriously, Gixxer brakes are the only ones we will have.

Cheers :)

[Carsick]

and GSXR calipers really aren't hard to find on ebay, at least not in the UK.

[Viney]

4 sets for sale on thier now. 1 set at £10 with a day to go :D

[21QUEST]

I better get a spare set before the price goes through the roof :roll: :lol: .

Cheers
Ben

[Razor]

I got mine for £20 incl postage, probably need new pads. Carbon Lorraine A3 by choice 8)

[xj/frosty]

Im a season and a bits racing in on my SV so um not talking theory here.
Your caliper choice doesnt need to JUST be gixxer
The 4 pots from a zx9r are basicly identical and if ya wanna go totally ott try a set of 6 pots from a later model gixxer750 or zx9r.
Fair warning though -in my opinion even the 4 pots on the ROAD are overkill.You need to be riding the bike fast regularly to need them.
I was running 6 pots and was literally sledging the front end --maybee Im a bit ham fisted -I went to 4 pots and what an improvement

[Razor]

The ZX9R and GSXR 6 pots are 90mm spacing, they won't fit on these brackets.

[northwind]

Not true, there's 2 different versions of the 6s, the ones that were on the SRAD 750 and the ones that were on the K1-K2 thou. The thou ones should fit- I've had a set on my Y-K2 750 forks.

[Razor]

Yes, they're the same as the GSX1400 calipers. We know :roll:

[northwind]

Right. So let me get this clear :) You know that the GSXR ones fit, and yet you say they don't? :)

[Razor]

The ZX9R calipers that fit GSXRs are 90mm, fact.
There are other 6 pots, but they won't fit on the ninja. I know this because when I broke my ninja I sold my calipers to a mate who used them on his GSXR1100. he had gold 6 pot nissan calipers form an early thou that didn't fit.
So obviously they wouldn't fit my crashed ninja either.
The newer ones are approx 64mm mounting holes I know this because I have them here.
Now tell me about all the other bikes you've had, must be a long list?

[northwind]

Eh, no, very short. All I'm doing is clarifying something you said that wasn't clear enough here, not getting into a contest about who's owned the most bikes ;)

Your post said "The ZX9R and GSXR 6 pots are 90mm spacing, they won't fit on these brackets" which is true for some of the GSXR 6-pots but not for others. See? What you know doesn't matter if you pass it on wrong.

[Carsick]

Can I wave my willy as well? :wink:
Chill out Razor, this isn't a contest.

[Razor]

In regard to SV-to-GSXR caliper conversion kit.

Our kit consists of machined steel adapter plates, machined (lathed) bushings, and hardware (nutes/bolts). NO other part other than the calipers are needed for installation.

00-02/750 and 01-03/600 GSXR calipers are the same.

In regard to warranty, these are for racing/racetrack applications so like any other aftermarket racing components, no warranty.
We will however, replace any defective parts no charge.
What this is, is a steel plate bolted to your GSXR calipers, it just moves the calipers rearward and inward for correct alignment with the stock SV discs.
The steel plates are stronger tham the cast aluminum fork legs they bolt to.
Comes with instructions.

Racetested in 2005, unbelieveable difference in stopping power and lever pressure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr4.jpg

Phone number for credit card orders is
636-922-2811
Ask for "HighSpeedAssault ordering"


We will also have our SV rearsets available soon.
Since most aftermarket rearsets don't elevate footpegs near high enough for racing, we will have our adpater-plates to give you 2.5" up and 2" rear adjustability. These will work in conjunction with oem or any aftermarket non-adjustable rearset.
We will have these on our website and available in under a month.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/rearset2.jpg


Hope this answers some questions.
Thanks!
http://www.HighSpeedAssault.com

:arrow:

[21QUEST]

In regard to SV-to-GSXR caliper conversion kit.

Our kit consists of machined steel adapter plates, machined (lathed) bushings, and hardware (nutes/bolts). NO other part other than the calipers are needed for installation.

00-02/750 and 01-03/600 GSXR calipers are the same.

In regard to warranty, these are for racing/racetrack applications so like any other aftermarket racing components, no warranty.
We will however, replace any defective parts no charge.
What this is, is a steel plate bolted to your GSXR calipers, it just moves the calipers rearward and inward for correct alignment with the stock SV discs.
The steel plates are stronger tham the cast aluminum fork legs they bolt to.
Comes with instructions.

Racetested in 2005, unbelieveable difference in stopping power and lever pressure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/sv-gsxr4.jpg

Phone number for credit card orders is
636-922-2811
Ask for "HighSpeedAssault ordering"


We will also have our SV rearsets available soon.
Since most aftermarket rearsets don't elevate footpegs near high enough for racing, we will have our adpater-plates to give you 2.5" up and 2" rear adjustability. These will work in conjunction with oem or any aftermarket non-adjustable rearset.
We will have these on our website and available in under a month.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Speedballer/rearset2.jpg


Hope this answers some questions.
Thanks!
http://www.HighSpeedAssault.com

:arrow:

:?: :roll:


Cheers
Ben

[Sid Squid]

:-s

Can we stop this now please?

A public service announcement brought to you by your friendly, (mostly) neighbourhood moderator.

[r4ce_e3nd]

which calipers can I use with this kit besides the gsx-r ones? i am talking about Nissin, Brembo, ...

and an other question: the stock master cilinder enough for thoes 4-pot calipers? because stoch SV has 2-pot's... :?

greets

[northwind]

Brembo don't do one that fits directly to the GSXRs in question, but they make a bracket. So you could probably fit this bracket, and then the Brembo bracket, and then the caliper :) Beringer do one to suit, I think, or did at least. AP too, IIRC.

As for master cylinder, the SRAD 6 at least came with the exact same one as the SVS, if I recall correctly. Probably SRAD 750 too, but I've never met one up close. It was a very common part back in the day.

But upgrading it would be nice. definately not required, but I don't see much point in spending the money for the calipers and for the fork upgrades to use them well, then accepting second best, myself.

[r4ce_e3nd]

Brembo don't do one that fits directly to the GSXRs in question, but they make a bracket. So you could probably fit this bracket, and then the Brembo bracket, and then the caliper :) Beringer do one to suit, I think, or did at least. AP too, IIRC.

As for master cylinder, the SRAD 6 at least came with the exact same one as the SVS, if I recall correctly. Probably SRAD 750 too, but I've never met one up close. It was a very common part back in the day.

But upgrading it would be nice. definately not required, but I don't see much point in spending the money for the calipers and for the fork upgrades to use them well, then accepting second best, myself.
Well, my friend (I know you probably choose your own friends, but I can try :P ) I like to update my bike for the road and for the track, because me likes to ride sporty :wink:
I am already searching for some calipers, but dont know if i'm gonna do the suspention mod, I will think of that...

[r4ce_e3nd]

northwind, are you shure about it? about the master cilinder, because some guys claim, on an other balgian forum, that my master cilinder of the SV won't work properly with 4 pot calipers. I kinda think the same, because know it only has to displace 2 pots per caliper for a sertain distance, although (know I'm starting to worry again) the backside of the caliper is pulled back for a ballance (flowting side) and the displacement is again reduced to the half... :? this discussion may be rediculous but I want to know this...

can HighSpeedAssault.com confirm this please?

[northwind]

Yup, definately- both the same 5/8 master cylinder. Now, like I said (was it in this thread? Can't remember) the stock one worked for me but I didn't like it much, I thought it lacked feedback and it was very non-linear...

[Razor]

BUMP!!

[Knaapie]

Would like to see some SV650.org member pics of this mod. ;) Khewett??? Have been thinking about it, but wasn't able to find someone who could make this sort of plates for a normal price. :roll:

I do wonder how this is fitted though and if any rings or spacers are used to get the calipers and the brake pads in the right position. If so, doesn't this weaken the construction? I'm not all that technical... :D The only adapter plates I saw where CNC-ed from one piece of aluminium and much thicker than this ones.

[Khewett]

Would like to see some SV650.org member pics of this mod. ;) Khewett??? Have been thinking about it, but wasn't able to find someone who could make this sort of plates for a normal price. :roll:

I do wonder how this is fitted though and if any rings or spacers are used to get the calipers and the brake pads in the right position. If so, doesn't this weaken the construction? I'm not all that technical... :D The only adapter plates I saw where CNC-ed from one piece of aluminium and much thicker than this ones.

I had some, but have since sold onto Luke on this forum, as I've fitted a GSXR front end!

[Knaapie]

:( Is Luke his user name as well? Couldn't find him.

[lukemillar]

:( Is Luke his user name as well? Couldn't find him.

PM sent. :wink:

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Got some GSX-R brakes, just need the brackets now 8)

[Razor]

Got some GSX-R brakes, just need the brackets now 8)

I've got a set, not fitting them as selling the SV.

PM me if interested, I've got the calipers and a set of HEL braided hoses with all the banjos and washers if needed.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Well I've just discovered that there's an extra lug on the pointy for a speedo cable retaining bolt. Ergo, they wont fit on an SV650 K3 or onwards.

Well, I'm ****ed off.

[Khewett]

Well I've just discovered that there's an extra lug on the pointy for a speedo cable retaining bolt. Ergo, they wont fit on an SV650 K3 or onwards.

Well, I'm p*ssed off.

Cut it off with a dremel.

If you need to reattach at a lter date use some JB Weld paste which will hold it.

Its not a load bearing bolt hole and only holds a cable flat. You could cut it neatly to allow you to use caliper adaptors, and so when re attched with OEM calipers no-one would now.

[Knaapie]

Would SRAD brake calipers work as well? I'm having a hard time to find some good 01-03 GSX-R calipers, but I did find some SRAD calipers. I know that the mounting points are 90mm apart from eachother instead of 62mm.

[r4ce_e3nd]

Would SRAD brake calipers work as well? I'm having a hard time to find some good 01-03 GSX-R calipers, but I did find some SRAD calipers. I know that the mounting points are 90mm apart from eachother instead of 62mm.
If you make them yourself: YES

I bought some of a CBR600 K3 and will (try) to make them myself, if I have time...

[Knaapie]

Ok, thanks! So you've got some black Nissin calipers? Or did you buy the gold ones from a RR?

[mart]

[/quote]

They are, but the standard forks can't even deal with the standard 2-pots. The limiting factor on a standard SV's brakes is the suspension, not the brakes, IMO- the excessive dive and braking instability reduces the bike's ability to use the braking power. But with an appropriately sprung and damped front end, it'll be different.

(though then I'd like to point out that the cost of rebuilding a standard SV front end to a decent quality, and then these brackets, and the calipers, will most likely be more than a GSXR front end swap)[/quote]agreed main problem with the brakes on a sv is the suspension also fitting larger calipers to the curvy model and running them in trackdays will bend the forks they are just not capable of handling larger calipers

[northwind]

also fitting larger calipers to the curvy model and running them in trackdays will bend the forks they are just not capable of handling larger calipers

I'm so sure that this isn't the case that I'm prepared to bet a whole scottish pound note on it... Total power's not the issue, you get no mure actual brute braking force from GSXR calipers than you do with SV bits (when they work). SV calipers will lock any tyre in the dry, the limit of braking force is traction not brakes. It's what you can do with it, and how it delivers it, that makes all the difference.

[mart]

i just agreed with your comment about the sv suspenshion and brake calipers with a note that running a bike set up for trackdays/racing which would include having dot/slick tires on in combination with larger 4 pot calipers which like it or not have a different force and action will distort the crapy forks that were fitted to the curvy models remember two pistons pushing equily on the disc not two pistons pulling the caliper to the disc agreed that the sv calipers have the same instant bite but would then fade were as the gsxr calipers would continue to gather power

[21QUEST]

also fitting larger calipers to the curvy model and running them in trackdays will bend the forks they are just not capable of handling larger calipers

I'm so sure that this isn't the case that I'm prepared to bet a whole scottish pound note on it... Total power's not the issue, you get no mure actual brute braking force from GSXR calipers than you do with SV bits (when they work). SV calipers will lock any tyre in the dry, the limit of braking force is traction not brakes. It's what you can do with it, and how it delivers it, that makes all the difference.

Lol. Myself I'll be my Thou uop :lol: .

Mart , have you got a reliable sources for what you are saying with regards to the forks bending?
If my I've retained anything from physics lesson(long time ago) the SV sliding calipers would be applying the same force on both sides of the discs.

:?: What caused fade? Is it to do the calipers , the master cylinder or the pads.

Cheers
Ben

[mart]

yes two accounts of forks bending with large calipers james of jhs is the informant and no i dont believe all that he says but i have spoken to a few others that have seen it.
pads
im sure that is the case though you think that with a build up brake dust and dirt caked together with rain that the sliding motion of the calipers would diminish thus diminishing the power of the calipers.

i think also the way i phrased the last post was a little off the sv caliper dont fade rather they have a limit to the power they can exert coupled with the bad damping of the forks limits the bikes stopping power
it just seem that i run out of stopping power too soon on the sv calipers but on the cbf which also has two pot sliders i have that extra bit of brake and its a more constant feel from start to full stop
now im really confused. If were to make a conversion plate to fit the sv calipers to gsxr forks would you run the sv calipers over the four pots

mac

[TSM]

Ultimatly you are trying to stop a 280mm disk travling faster than the 320mm disks that are on GSXR and other bikes, disk being smaller means it does not cool down as much and the friction has to be heiger to slow it down while on the larger disks the same braking power on the calipers is more as the disks are travling slower and not heating up the disks as much.

Mabey someone can figure if GSXR disks can be fitted to SV wheels and mounting plates made to make GSXR calipers to fit. That would be a powerfull combination. Failing that get better disks such as EBC Prolite with HH pads, that will give you stupid braking power on an SV.

ps. This is the way i understand it, it may be wrong though.

[mart]

yes gsxr disc can be fitted to the sv wheel though the coversion plates would need to be longer

[Knaapie]

I really wonder if it's possible to fit 320mm discs AND GSX-R calipers. I think that there's a good chance that the calipers will touch the wheel if the GSX-R calipers will be fitted as well, because of the different angle the calipers have to be mounted to the adapter plates.

Perhaps that fitting 320mm discs, compared to the 290mm stock discs, with stock calipers will provide extra stopping power as well. :?:

[r4ce_e3nd]

Ok, thanks! So you've got some black Nissin calipers? Or did you buy the gold ones from a RR?
yup, the shiny golden ones from the RR with stealth brake hoses. 8)


I bought also the Race-Tech emulator kit to upgrade the full front-end. (got already harder springs from WP). I will let you know when it's finished.