Coming soon..........

[Daphne]

The lovely people at the highway's department are concerned over the number of bikers speeding past front facing cameras....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/northamptonshire/4921600.stm

Only in Northampton at the moment - will they be widespread :?:

[TC3]

Absolute ******s

[kwak zzr]

:( i usually enjoy forward facing camers :twisted:

[fizzwheel]

I'd rather they did that than make me have a hideous monstrosity of a front number plate on my bike.

[stewboy]

:evil: :evil: :toss:

[Gazza77]

Traffic police have called for the new cameras because of the difficulty in identifying motorcycles which tend to have their registration number on the back of the machine.

I know old bikes have plates on the front (though not front facing) but do any have front facing plates and no rear plate? :roll:

[tomjones2]

The one in portmouth on the eastern road has been turned around so it rear facing.

Bloody nothants police they have the specs cameras there full time as well don't they

[_Stretchie_]

I'm REALLY glad they are doing this, I feel safer already.... I'm sure this will cut down the number of accidents considerably.... B0LLOX fine chasing muther f.......!!!!!


Hmmm, I wonder how much it'll cost to do all these conversions.. Oh well, at least the tax payer will only have to pay for the first hundred or so... The carefully hidden ones behind signs or just after blind corners will pay for the rest... TW@'s





To be honest I never actually fly past speed camera's. Don't care if they can see the plate or not. It's like tempting fate.. But still, I don't like the idea of being targeted

[Lou M]

Ooh I used to live off the Welly Road - Glad I moved.

Nothing like riding slowly through a speed camera in second gear, and revving the nuts off it the other side. :lol:

[quikstu]

I'd rather they did that than make me have a hideous monstrosity of a front number plate on my bike.

I'll agree with that.

[Gnan]

it's nothing exciting just turned round cameras to face the rear rather than the front (i believe they are called tru-velo cameras)

i was expecting some double headed super camera :D

[Daimo]

Tinted Screen
Duck behined the bubble
Wont see your face, jsut hope they dont see your plate

8)

[northwind]

I thought they put them up front-facing so they got a shot of the driver's face- avoids the "don't incriminate your spouse" defence or "I don't know who was driving".

To be honest, you can't really grumble, it's only fair that we all get the same shaft-- why should bikers be exempt? The problem's not the cameras, it's the way they're used and the limits they reinforce.

[SVTONYB]

To be honest, you can't really grumble, it's only fair that we all get the same shaft-- why should bikers be exempt? The problem's not the cameras, it's the way they're used and the limits they reinforce.

Anyone who starts with "to be honest" is telling lies. Its like when you start talking to the boss with"with all due respect sir" IE no respect whatsoever.

Why should bikers be exempt.......cause we're the safest on the road

[K]

Ahh well, Northampton used to be the bike friendly place for forward facing camera and very few Gatsos. Guess it had to end sometime.

Though I agree with Northy on the equality side.

Which ones are SPECS cameras anyway? :?

[northwind]

Ooh, fightin' talk Tony! If I weren't so hopelessly feeble you'd be in trouble.

Saying that bikes should be exempt because they're safer misses the point of speed cameras surely, since 9/10 haev nothing to do with safety.

[Gnan]

Ahh well, Northampton used to be the bike friendly place for forward facing camera and very few Gatsos. Guess it had to end sometime.

Though I agree with Northy on the equality side.

Which ones are SPECS cameras anyway? :?

specs are the yellow cctv style cameras that usually sit on motorway roadworks to monitor average speeds between fixed points.. bikes immune as they are front facing and work on ANPR

[Black Rider]

Gnan Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:07 am Post subject:

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it's nothing exciting just turned round cameras to face the rear rather than the front (i believe they are called tru-velo cameras)

i was expecting some double headed super camera

BBC Website -
Speeding motorists and bikers will now be flashed both as they approach a roadside camera and after passing it.

Maybe you'll get your double headed super camera! :shock:

[Beenz]

One forward and another rear facing. That way the get to do you twice :)

I'll get my coat.

[Viney]

Gnan Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:07 am Post subject:

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it's nothing exciting just turned round cameras to face the rear rather than the front (i believe they are called tru-velo cameras)

i was expecting some double headed super camera

BBC Website -
Speeding motorists and bikers will now be flashed both as they approach a roadside camera and after passing it.

Maybe you'll get your double headed super camera! :shock:

Hmmm, True velo (Forward facing) do not work on the Doplar effect as do Gatsos. They work on in indution loop in the road. Turning them around will not help, as also the cameras have to, according to regs, have calibration marks.

So for this to work, they will have to change the cameras to Gatso, and paint calibration marks. In the age old saying, if you dont wanna do the time, then dont do the crime. We seem to have an infestation of the new Canary box type cameras around where i live. They are hard to see at 1st!!

Speed cameras are just plain wrong. Not in the fact that most of them are revenue generators, but that that they would catch someone drink/drug driving, dangerous driving etc.

Still they are her to stay, so its best we live with them really.

[DanAbnormal]

It doesn't fuss me as I tend not to speed through any type of camera. But what does really annoy me is that the government seem hell bent on punishing the minority of roads users, i.e. motorcyclists. Target the cars/lorries as they make up the numbers, cause congestion and have more accidents. Idiots.

[northwind]

That kind of misses the point though... They already target the trucks and cars this way, all this is doing is extending the net. You can hardly cry discrimination.

[Gnan]

Hmmm, True velo (Forward facing) do not work on the Doplar effect as do Gatsos. They work on in indution loop in the road. Turning them around will not help, as also the cameras have to, according to regs, have calibration marks.


true velo cameras don't need marks for the secondary check as they use piezo loops which are a fixed distance apart.. they know the distance and the time before the flash so they can calculate the speed...

i believe they can use them in rear facing situations with some modification (ie the sensors need to be backwards)

[Spiderman]

You can hardly cry discrimination.

Yes i can. Watch.



:cry: discrimination

[northwind]

OK, then, add on "without having me pour scorn on you". Watch

:roll: Scorn.

[Quedos]

surely the answer is don't speed! or is that too simplistic??? :roll:

[GSXR Carlos]

surely the answer is don't speed! or is that too simplistic??? :roll:

Yes, it's too simplistic.

Lee.

:winner:

[Ceri JC]

"This enhancement to our fixed site cameras will help us COIN IT IN enormously," Mr Hume said.

[socommk23]

it's nothing exciting just turned round cameras to face the rear rather than the front (i believe they are called tru-velo cameras)

i was expecting some double headed super camera :D

swear i seen some like this on the road into bournmouth!

[kwak zzr]

lets face it the police are now doing everything possible to fine the motorist/motorcyclest now! its got to be easyer than running after criminals. speed cameras make the cops £££££ and thats what its all about now, you never see a beat bobby on the streets by us now.

[northwind]

Flaw in that argument is that cameras more than pay for themselves- they contribute resources to Police forces. Some shortsighted forces pulled a lot of traffic patrols in favour of cameras, which funnilly enough, led to a rise in vehicular crime and accidents. That gets simplistically blamed on the prevalence of cameras but there's no direct connection- it's just bad policing. Just look at our hero Brunstrom.

My take- which I've said before, but jsut to save time ;) Is that cameras are OK, when used right, just that it's rare for them to be used right. In combination with appropriate speed limits I have no issues at all, but there's too many places where the speed limits are all to ****, and that encourages speeding- if that speed limit over there's plainly stupid, you're more likely to ignore it. And once you do it for that one, you're more likely to do it elsewhere.

[21QUEST]

Here we go again :roll: :)

Don't speed and you won't get flashed. Everyone goes on about needing the police to catch dangerous driver/riders but invariable most people have there take on what/where is appropraite.

I bet if roads were swarmed with the police , we'll still whinge
Me , I get cross with myself if I miss a fixed camera. Now those mobile ones is a different matter. On the odd times :-dd now and then I do go over the speed limit I prefare to take my chances with a fixed camera.

Police are useless anyways(only half joking). Can't even be bothered to check on a suspected drunk driver(True).


Cheers
Ben