View Full Version : Lock him up... Some people just never learn.
Anonymous
21-04-06, 09:26 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4928590.stm
Babyshambles singer Pete Doherty has been arrested in east London on suspicion of drugs possession only hours after a court appearance.
The singer, 27, was held with another man by plain clothes officers in Roman Road, London E2, on Thursday afternoon.
Scotland Yard said two men were in custody on suspicion of possessing class A drugs with intent to supply.
Doherty earlier admitted seven charges of possessing drugs when he appeared before magistrates in east London.
He was given a community order with two years supervision and 18 months drug rehabilitation and was also banned from driving for six months.
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "A 27-year-old man and a 21-year-old man were arrested after a vehicle was stopped in Roman Road, E2, by plain clothed officers who were carrying out a patrol in an unmarked police car.
"They were arrested on suspicion of possessing what was believed to be class A drugs with the intent to supply."
How long can they keep justifiying letting the kid go? Lock him up and chuck the key away. Just cos hes (in)famous doesnt mean he should get better treatment than anyone else.
:roll:
Best quote i heard "He has more pople at his court appreances than his gigs" Made me chuckle.
Lock to fool up...for his own safty and our sanity
_Stretchie_
21-04-06, 09:30 AM
I can honestly say I've never heard of him..
Take him to the tower.... Sorry, wrong thread :lol:
stewboy
21-04-06, 09:30 AM
Yes they should hes a complete bell end!
what a nob
Y lock him up he'll get more stuff while in there.
Just execute him nobody will miss him :twisted:
Anonymous
21-04-06, 09:33 AM
Alright.. who voted 'NO'??
:shock:
Peter Henry
21-04-06, 09:34 AM
Sorry to buck the trend here,but would it not be fair to suggest that the guy obviously needs help? :?
He is not alone either,apparently George Michael these days is surviving on 20 mega spliffs a day. His career looks just about over unless he also gets big help.
timwilky
21-04-06, 09:38 AM
I admit to voting no.
It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money. I am informed that more addicts come out of prison than go in.
Instead, let him have his drugs. As much as he can afford. chances are he won't be doing it for too long.
I also subscribe to the far east solution for punishing dealers. Strange how nobody ever reoffends :wink:
I admit to voting no.
It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money. I am informed that more addicts come out of prison than go in.
Instead, let him have his drugs. As much as he can afford. chances are he won't be doing it for too long.
I also subscribe to the far east solution for punishing dealers. Strange how nobody ever reoffends :wink:
Like the thinking.
stewboy
21-04-06, 09:43 AM
tell you what .....why not put him in a sodding metal suit with just his ... chap hanging out.
so that why if he wants so shoot up ..he has to inject into his chap .......
no that should stop him ......... ( for a while )
Flamin_Squirrel
21-04-06, 09:47 AM
I admit to voting no.
It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money.
It would seem he isnt just a user though..
timwilky
21-04-06, 09:50 AM
I admit to voting no.
It is my opinion that locking up drug users is a complete waste of public money.
It would seem he isnt just a user though..
In which case option 2, the far east solution comes into play. March him out of the court room into the back yard. "I appeal", "Appeal Rejected". Bang.
I get the feeling a few summary executions and most dealers would find honest employment
Don't lock him up - just wait til he overdoses
i think he's got talent, i've been patient and defended the guy. but enoughs enough. he needs treatment, hopefully he'll get that if he's incarcirated
Peter Henry
21-04-06, 09:57 AM
Such charitable thinking abounds on SV.ORG :?
*ducks down in readiness for the rants.*
He must be really thick though. He always seems to get caught in east London so you would think he would know better than to hang around the same area with a fair bit of drugs on him only hours after going to court for similar offences. He probably has his own cell at the local police station as well now.
i think he's got talent, i've been patient and defended the guy. but enoughs enough. he needs treatment, hopefully he'll get that if he's incarcirated
True
fizzwheel
21-04-06, 10:46 AM
I dont think locking him up in prison will do him any good. He doesnt think he's doing anything wrong and he obviously cant stop doing it.
What I think he needs is forcibly putting into a clinic and being made to clean himself up. He then needs to stop hanging around with the toadying morons that make him think he's cooler and more talented than he actually is. Maybe that will be the wake up call he needs.
Sadly I doubt he'll get any proper help and that eventually he'll overdose and then that will be that.
amarko5
21-04-06, 11:35 AM
im with tim :thumbsup: shoot him and save the taxpayer some money :wink:
P.S. he is a crap singer anyway :lol:
Supervox
21-04-06, 01:01 PM
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .
. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc
I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!
Filipe M.
21-04-06, 01:03 PM
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!
You gotta be kidding! :shock: :wink:
Jelster
21-04-06, 01:10 PM
Lee's solution is the answer... Make sure any mony/investments he has are repossesed to make way for his rehab, and his stay at a correctional facility.
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.
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Biker Biggles
21-04-06, 01:14 PM
Still don't know who he is,but I voted no.I think people should be able to take whatever drugs they like and if it kills them so be it.The State's role should be to ensure people are adequatly informed about the dangers,so we can all start taking responsibiliy for ourselves.That way if this tosser takes stuff and does nothing else,who cares?If he takes stuff and commits other criminal acts throw the book at him.(Assuming he can read it :lol:)
Supervox
21-04-06, 01:15 PM
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.
There's more chance of the Pope being discovered in bed with 3 nuns & a donkey than THAT happening !!
Filipe M.
21-04-06, 01:23 PM
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.
There's more chance of the Pope being discovered in bed with 3 nuns & a donkey than THAT happening !!
Are u sure about the nuns stuff? :-k No, really...
Supervox
21-04-06, 01:26 PM
Maybe he'll learn how to sing while he's there too.
There's more chance of the Pope being discovered in bed with 3 nuns & a donkey than THAT happening !!
Are u sure about the nuns stuff? :-k No, really...
I did say discovered !! :D
Balky001
21-04-06, 01:41 PM
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .
. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc
I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!
Nice :shock: :? - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.
Supervox
21-04-06, 01:59 PM
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .
. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc
I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!
Nice - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.
Maybe I should have said "any proven connection with controlled substances" then ?
Whilst alcohol, nicotine, caffeine et al remain legal there is no reason to 'police' or 'control' them
Balky001
21-04-06, 02:06 PM
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .
. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc
I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!
Nice - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.
Maybe I should have said "any proven connection with controlled substances" then ?
Whilst alcohol, nicotine, caffeine et al remain legal there is no reason to 'police' or 'control' them
Oh I see, I was talking from an ethical position not a legal one.
Scooby Drew
21-04-06, 02:19 PM
Sorry to buck the trend here,but would it not be fair to suggest that the guy obviously needs help? :?
:stupid:
The laws have been modelled so that you can be prosecuted for dealing if you pass your mate a spliff so that they can have a puff. I doubt if he had enough on him to set up shop. He should be allowed to kill himself as quickly as possible and stop wasting our time & money etc.
tomjones2
21-04-06, 03:25 PM
Have to say that I agree with Tim on this one - but I would go one stage further . . .
. . . mandatory death sentence for ANY proven connection with drugs - user, dealer, supplier, accountant, bank manager, etc
I think you'd find that the drug trade would cease to be a major problem in this country then !! :evil:
And before anyone asks - yes, I am perfectly serious !!
Nice - hope you classify alcohol as a drug too - I do like a drink but if it wasn't legal already I'm sure they would keep it banned knowing the carnage abuse of this does.
Maybe I should have said "any proven connection with controlled substances" then ?
Whilst alcohol, nicotine, caffeine et al remain legal there is no reason to 'police' or 'control' them
Sorry to disagree but many countries with heavy penalties for drugs, still have drugs problems - america, thialand for instance. Anyone read "The Damage Done" no human being should be treated like that whether they were trafficing herion or not. Strict controls just tend to push for more professional operations. At present drugs are here and the only way there use will get stopped is by educating users to stop taking them.
I don't condone the use of drugs but a bit of green isn't going to end the world is it. Personlly i think that alcohol and gambling abuse represent bigger problems in our socity than soft drug use ever will after all you don't see 20 strong gangs of stoners tearing up the town do you. Dont get me wrong i don't buy into weed being harmless or non-adictive but there are far worse mind-altering substances that can be bought legally.
As far as i'm aware the vast majority of drugs problems and drug related crime are caused by a small minoirty of regular herion/crack users, which very few people would consider a "recreational" drug.
However mr doherty is making a mockery on the justice system. Rather than sending him down i think i should be forced to enter a secure rehab program (not sure if they egist but they should) where he can get his head straight.
Anonymous
21-04-06, 03:27 PM
Well, guess it was inevitable really:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4931052.stm
He's been bailed. Why dont they hold him in custody just to get the little waster off the streets and away from his customers. :roll:
National Service in Iraq would suit more, why waste taxpayers money on jail, guys a total *****
northwind
21-04-06, 04:31 PM
I voted no... It won't help him, it'll just cost us to keep him in. Treatment's cheaper... I can't remember for sure, but I think the courts can offer mandatary residential drug treatment as an alternative to jail time. It's cheaper to fix the problem than to punish the symptoms I reckon.
I just think it's tragic to waste talent like that. He's got a real gift in there somewhere, if he can remember where he left it.
Incidentally, alcohol isn't a drug- it's a toxin. It seems like a lot of people don';t like accepting a hangover as a symptom of brain damage... I'm just fine with it. Hic.
Cloggsy
21-04-06, 06:24 PM
Just execute him nobody will miss him :twisted:
Many a true word said in jest :!: :thumbsup:
tomjones2
21-04-06, 06:35 PM
I just think it's tragic to waste talent like that. He's got a real gift in there somewhere, if he can remember where he left it.
No doubt about his talent and intelegnce, before he found herion i belive he was on the england junior debating team. Did u see that BBC interview where he was sober, his real personallity started to show through again.
I reckon the libertenies could have done v big things if pete hadn't screwed it all up.
Lock him up, setting a bad example for budding junkies all over.
I just think it's tragic to waste talent like that. He's got a real gift in there somewhere, if he can remember where he left it.
No doubt about his talent and intelegnce, before he found herion i belive he was on the england junior debating team. Did u see that BBC interview where he was sober, his real personallity started to show through again.
I reckon the libertenies could have done v big things if pete hadn't screwed it all up.
praise allah ! two sane people who can see the talent which lies beneath and don't judge him by what they see and read in the tabloids.
i aint denying he's a lot screwed up right now, but surely there's hope? isn't there always hope? execution....? :shock:
Terence
22-04-06, 08:58 PM
[quote="Flamin_Squirrel
It would seem he isnt just a user though..[/quote]
Remember... Only users lose drugs
Terence
22-04-06, 09:00 PM
Incidentally, alcohol isn't a drug- it's a toxin.
The difference being?
northwind
22-04-06, 11:04 PM
Eh... Can't recall the definition exactly. It's along these lines... Drugs change your chemical, neural or bioelectrical state. Toxins damage it. So MDMA, for example, makes you high by triggering the production of dopamine, serotonin, and something else within the brain. Alcohol makes you high by depressing neural activity and removing behavioural inhibitors, but also by disrupting neural pathways with, basically, brain damage.
21QUEST
23-04-06, 01:21 AM
A bit like getting same result(fooked) via different ways then :lol: :P
Cheers
Ben
What I think he needs is forcibly putting into a clinic and being made to clean himself up.
That approach just doesn't work. Unless you want to give up drugs, alcohol, etc. then you'll never do it.
Sorry to buck the trend here,but would it not be fair to suggest that the guy obviously needs help? :?
Spot on. But does he realise it? :?
Anonymous
23-04-06, 10:16 AM
media should leave him alone. its all publicity. everyone has heard of him but how many actually listen to his music. just ignore him and wait til he either kills himself or grows up
Lionheart
23-04-06, 11:52 AM
Doesn't matter what treatment you offer him, the simple truth is he doesn't give a monkey's. The guy is up his own backside. He think's he is the dog's when he is actually a complete ****. He has had counselling and clinic treatment on offer before - and he's blown it (sorry about the pun !). The sooner he is out of the public eye the better, wether that be dead, locked up, or in a health institute.
Oh, and he is a totally over rated musician also !!
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