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The old gentleman behind me refuses to trim his tree for the 3rd year in a row.. So it must die for his sins...
How can I kill the light blocking monstrosity without getting nicked?
{SQ}
The old gentleman behind me refuses to trim his tree for the 3rd year in a row.. So it must die for his sins...
How can I kill the light blocking monstrosity without getting nicked?
You can't and he's under no obligation to trim it. But you can trim what hangs on your side and leave the waste in his garden for his disposal. As it still his property, make sure tell him first though.
And don't be so nasty, he's a old man...
He's a coffin dodging oxygen thief, if you meet him you'd understand. It's the height of the tree and the roots that are ripping up my flagstones and shed.
timwilky
26-04-06, 09:43 PM
firstly consider
Is there any chance of it doing any damage to your property should it fall?
You have the right to trim any overhang onto your property. But you must give them back the branches you cut off.
My neighbours have a couple of trees that drop rotten fruit over onto my lawn. I wait till well mouldy pierce them with a cane to irate the wasps in them and launch them back over their fence.
I have also cut through the roots where they try to suck the water out of my lawn.
However, I do have a neighbour next but one who has the most enormous Leylandii. They cut out most of the light from our mutual neighbour. Good on him and long may he not get them lopped.
This one is a coffin dodger too. Her late husband had a terrible life with her and deliberately got Altzimers so that he would not have to put up with her moaning. she called the police to complain that our BBQ smelled and smoke was ruining her washing etc. She would throw her garden waste over the fence into our garden and had the cheek to say that we has stolen 3 ft of her garden. She got in 2 different firms of surveyors to check her boundaries, the second being required as she did not like what the first told her.
Strip all the bark off from around the base or drill a lage hole in it and pour some diesl into it that should kill it!!!!
He's a coffin dodging oxygen thief, if you meet him you'd understand. It's the height of the tree and the roots that are ripping up my flagstones and shed.
Thats not nice... you don't know what life he's had... even if he is a old git, he might not have much else in life then whining about you. Leave him with his little pleasure and rise above it.
And I bet the tree was there before you where, and before you moved in so stop whining. To many trees are chopped down as it is.
I was looking at weed killer in B & Q, won't that work better than diesel?
Looking at your avatar
Make him walk the plank! Yarrrggghhhh!!!!! :D
I can't see the wood for the trees :lol: :lol:
Is it protected by a TPO?? If yes, prune it at your peril.
Is it protected by a TPO?? If yes, prune it at your peril.
TPO??
Ce?
Carsick
26-04-06, 09:53 PM
Is it protected by a TPO?? If yes, prune it at your peril.
TPO??
Ce?
Tree Preservation Order.
Tree Protection order
[edit] nearly!! :oops:
Is it protected by a TPO?? If yes, prune it at your peril.
TPO??
Ce?
Tree Preservation Order.
Is that just for certain types of tree?
Or get him slapped with an ASBO
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Maybe I should just get out the Eminem outfit I wore last halloween and get a real chainsaw... My name is...
northwind
26-04-06, 10:00 PM
Dynamite. Then blame kids. Even if they catch you you'll get time off for style.
timwilky
26-04-06, 10:01 PM
Is it protected by a TPO?? If yes, prune it at your peril.
Penalties are very harsh and you need deep pockets.
10.1Anyone who, in contravention of a TPO:
(1)cuts down, uproots or wilfully destroys a tree, or
(2)tops, lops or wilfully damages a tree in a way that is likely to destroy itis guilty of an offence.119 Anyone found guilty of this offence is liable, if convicted in the Magistrates Court, to a fine of up to £20,000. In serious cases a person may be committed for trial in the Crown Court and, if convicted, is liable to an unlimited fine.
10.2In determining the amount of any fine for this offence the Court must have regard to any financial benefit which has accrued, or is likely to accrue, in consequence of the offence.120
10.3It is also an offence for anyone to contravene the provisions of a TPO otherwise than as mentioned in paragraph 10.1 above.121 For example, anyone who lops a tree in contravention of a TPO, but in a way that the tree is not likely to be destroyed would be guilty of this offence (for the Courts interpretation of what is meant by 'destroyed' see paragraph 10.8 below). The penalty in this case is a fine in the Magistrates Court of up to £2,500. For this offence LPAs should note that the Magistrates Court cannot deal with a case unless the action is brought within six months from the time the offence was committed.122
Is it protected by a TPO?? If yes, prune it at your peril.
Penalties are very harsh and you need deep pockets.
10.1Anyone who, in contravention of a TPO:
(1)cuts down, uproots or wilfully destroys a tree, or
(2)tops, lops or wilfully damages a tree in a way that is likely to destroy itis guilty of an offence.119 Anyone found guilty of this offence is liable, if convicted in the Magistrates Court, to a fine of up to £20,000. In serious cases a person may be committed for trial in the Crown Court and, if convicted, is liable to an unlimited fine.
10.2In determining the amount of any fine for this offence the Court must have regard to any financial benefit which has accrued, or is likely to accrue, in consequence of the offence.120
10.3It is also an offence for anyone to contravene the provisions of a TPO otherwise than as mentioned in paragraph 10.1 above.121 For example, anyone who lops a tree in contravention of a TPO, but in a way that the tree is not likely to be destroyed would be guilty of this offence (for the Courts interpretation of what is meant by 'destroyed' see paragraph 10.8 below). The penalty in this case is a fine in the Magistrates Court of up to £2,500. For this offence LPAs should note that the Magistrates Court cannot deal with a case unless the action is brought within six months from the time the offence was committed.122 Are you a tree hugger?
fizzwheel
26-04-06, 10:03 PM
{SQ}
The old gentleman behind me refuses to trim his tree for the 3rd year in a row.. So it must die for his sins...
How can I kill the light blocking monstrosity without getting nicked?
Have you thought that maybe he cant afford to get it done or isnt capable of doing it himself.
Have you actually tried offering to trim it for him or maybe helping out towards the cost of getting it done.
timwilky
26-04-06, 10:03 PM
No
I own an axe
Call the Council and ask for the tree man, ask him if it's protected. He'll tell you over the phone.
Funny but the last tree man here in Shrewsbury emigrated to NZ cos the job was too stressful.
* Dons camouflage, picks up saw*
amarko5
26-04-06, 10:22 PM
I once read that stratecically hammered into the base copper nails did a lot of damage to trees :lol:
run round lots and give his tree a massive hug shouting "i love you". you'll either get done for trespassing or he'll get so pee'd of he'll cut it down himself :)
Jelster
26-04-06, 10:42 PM
Make sure that there's no birds nesting in it either, or that can have you in bother too (depending on the species). For instance, our nextdoor neighbours said they were going to cut down a tree in their garden, until I pointed out it has a pair of Jays nesting in it, and the RSPB would be on them like a ton of bricks....
It could be that the bloke just is not able to prune it, either physically or economically.
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You can get round the TPO thing simply by stealing a car and crashing into it. Tree comes down, you get £10 fine and 15hrs community service for TWOCking. :-dd
Some folks here seem to give the ol' scrote too much benefit of the doubt. There really are some miserable old gits about, they're not all cuddly grandads with pockets full of Werthers Originals. :evil:
Or get the chav kids down your street to do it for you (a bottle of cheep cider it will cost you) :lol: :lol:
Where I used to live my next door neighbour had a eucalyptus tree in their garden next to our our fence. The tree used to lean across into our garden and push on the fence so every time they went on holiday I used to climb it in the dark and lop as many branches off as I could as they refused to cut it down themselves :lol:
Ceri JC
26-04-06, 11:37 PM
I once read that stratecically hammered into the base copper nails did a lot of damage to trees :lol:
When I worked as a gardener some of the older guys used to do it so there must be some truth in it. I was always under the impression that it was something you did to stumps, to stop them growing back, rather than the first course of action to kill it, but I'm not sure.
As someone else pointed out, stripping a complete circle of bark off the base of it will certainly knacker it.
Ceri JC
26-04-06, 11:40 PM
Some folks here seem to give the ol' scrote too much benefit of the doubt. There really are some miserable old gits about, they're not all cuddly grandads with pockets full of Werthers Originals. :evil:
Precisely. It was a cantankerous old man who had me off my bike and is now obstructing the whole process by refusing to fill in paper work, claiming to lose it, etc. A lot of these sort of people have nothing better to do with their time than kick up a fuss about absolutely anything and be a real nuisance to neighbours.
If you deliberately try to kill his tree you commit criminal damage, but you have the right to mainain yor own property.
If the roots are indee lifting your flagstones clear all the roots that are within your boundary with an excavator. With no roots the tree will become unstable as there are roots on his side of the fence it will not fall in your direction but his hopefully on his house crushing him in the process and allowing some bright yuppie to buy the property and to develop the ruin into a block of affordble housing
amarko5
26-04-06, 11:49 PM
I once read that stratecically hammered into the base copper nails did a lot of damage to trees :lol:
When I worked as a gardener some of the older guys used to do it so there must be some truth in it. I was always under the impression that it was something you did to stumps, to stop them growing back, rather than the first course of action to kill it, but I'm not sure.
As someone else pointed out, stripping a complete circle of bark off the base of it will certainly knacker it.
did a google and stripping the bark will kill it in 2 to 3 years and the copper nail only works on some types of tree and needs to oxidise to contamilate or cause infection. and has to be large in proportion to the tree size .
so yep their seems to be truth in the old tales but i think a quicker approach was required .
CHAINSAW it is then :P :lol:
Warthog
26-04-06, 11:58 PM
We had some neighbours who had a large leillandi that drooped over our side of the garden. My dad started hacking it back, but chopped a bit far overtheir side and half of it died. They then sued him for half a million belgian francs (was a while ago). The court ruled that my dad was slightly responsible but half a million was silly and so he had to pay 30,000 I think. So watch it. But if it is ruining your paving on your side then just tell the council or something?
philipMac
27-04-06, 03:25 AM
its very easy to kill a tree.
get a small saw, or a big sort of stanley knife. Run a ring around the trunk.
One dead tree.
busasean
27-04-06, 07:00 AM
I once read that stratecically hammered into the base copper nails did a lot of damage to trees :lol:
yep!!!! however if you were to "water" it with diesel it will kill it !
I once read that stratecically hammered into the base copper nails did a lot of damage to trees :lol:
yep!!!! however if you were to "water" it with diesel it will kill it !
Water it with perol and have a cigrar to celebrate :lol: :lol: :lol:
It will take a lot of diesel to kill it by just spraying, and you will contaminate your own land in the process.
Try drilling a hole in it and filling it up with salt.
Anonymous
27-04-06, 08:18 AM
You can get round the TPO thing simply by stealing a car and crashing into it. Tree comes down, you get £10 fine and 15hrs community service for TWOCking. :-dd
Some folks here seem to give the ol' scrote too much benefit of the doubt. There really are some miserable old gits about, they're not all cuddly grandads with pockets full of Werthers Originals. :evil:
Can you really blame them? They were kids when they were conscripted into the forces, shipped off to fight a war which wasnt ours. Thousands, nay, HUNDREDS of thousands of them never came back, those that did survive were left to fend for themselves, the best years of their lives (late teens early twenties - my age) gone in a hase of death, destruction, blood and endless violence.
Then they look around themselves today and wonder what exactly they fought to save. Kids have no respect, OAP's are getting mugged left right and centre for their pension money etc.
No wonder theres lots of grumpy OAPs out there.. id feel exactly the same in their boots.
Ward8124
27-04-06, 08:36 AM
Save the TReeeeeeeeee!!!! starts to dig tunnel like swampy.....
Jelster
27-04-06, 08:41 AM
Can you really blame them? They were kids when they were conscripted into the forces, shipped off to fight a war which wasnt ours.
Joe, without taking this "off topic", that statement is so short sighted of you..... Going to war in 1939 was necessary to protect not just the UK but Europe as a continent. Hitler was determined to force his views on millions of people and if they complained, they died.
When Germany invaded Poland was necessary for the UK to stand up to them if we were to survive as a nation, otherwise we could have been speaking in German right now, you'd have no rights as to your sexual persuasion and Israel (and it's people) would not exist.
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Two comments guys:
1) I thought there was some legislation going through parliament at the moment stating the maximum height of hedges just to avoid this problem, certainly it comes into effect quite soon
2) Be aware that nails in trees will cause a chain on a chain saw to come off. The result will certainly be a maiming or worse :cry:
Anonymous
27-04-06, 08:57 AM
Can you really blame them? They were kids when they were conscripted into the forces, shipped off to fight a war which wasnt ours.
Joe, without taking this "off topic", that statement is so short sighted of you..... Going to war in 1939 was necessary to protect not just the UK but Europe as a continent. Hitler was determined to force his views on millions of people and if they complained, they died.
When Germany invaded Poland was necessary for the UK to stand up to them if we were to survive as a nation, otherwise we could have been speaking in German right now, you'd have no rights as to your sexual persuasion and Israel (and it's people) would not exist.
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Steve,
I know the reasons inside and out for the war, and i must admit i whole heartedly agree with them. Im not saying that i dont know or disagree.
But can you still blame them? I mean, due to the actions of a certain bunch of people, these kids (and basically thats all they were at the time of the war) had to surrender their lives as they knew it, and go to war. 60 years on, a lot of the freedoms they fought for have been signed over to europe anyhow, and society as we know it is a complete disgrace.
If i was in their position, id probably feel exactly the same.
The average age of the combat soldier in WWII was 26.
In Vietnam it was nineteen... nah..nah..nineteeen.
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UlsterSV
27-04-06, 04:00 PM
When Germany invaded Poland was necessary for the UK to stand up to them if we were to survive as a nation, otherwise we could have been speaking in German right now
No, we wouldn't. Hitler posed no threat to us. Hundreds of thousands needlessly died. Can't understand why people insist we had to declare war on Germany and Hitler (who had, in fact, shown great admiration for the British and the Empire).
Israel (and it's people) would not exist
An illegal country would not have been forced on the natives of that land and thousands of Palestinians would not have been killed or had their homes bulldozed. This is a bad thing because....?
When Germany invaded Poland was necessary for the UK to stand up to them if we were to survive as a nation, otherwise we could have been speaking in German right now
No, we wouldn't. Hitler posed no threat to us. Hundreds of thousands needlessly died. Can't understand why people insist we had to declare war on Germany and Hitler (who had, in fact, shown great admiration for the British and the Empire).
Israel (and it's people) would not exist
An illegal country would not have been forced on the natives of that land and thousands of Palestinians would not have been killed or had their homes bulldozed. This is a bad thing because....?
Wouldn't have been much left of the rest of Europe though... Plus once he'd got all that and even though he'd said they would remain neutral towards Britain what would have stopped him?
After all just leaving it would have given him a really strong foot hold.
maybe this should be split off to another discusion...
UlsterSV
27-04-06, 04:25 PM
maybe this should be split off to another discusion...
Yeah, it should. I disagreed 100% with what was said and just wanted to argue it.
UlsterSV
27-04-06, 04:27 PM
To bring things back on topic... copper nails is the way to go.
Very discreet :-$ :-dd
Arent there laws to protect the amount of light you get into your property hence trees HAVE to be trimmed or cut back?
But certainly contact the council. Find out if hes just not able to trim it - but be prepared for aggro if thats the attitude you take with you. Be reasonable and he may surprise you. :wink: :D
socommk23
27-04-06, 06:29 PM
accidental oil spill near roots should do it!
philipMac
27-04-06, 07:12 PM
guys, i dont know if you noticed my earlier post, a ring around the bark, 1 cm deep, will kill the tree. Basically instantly.
We used this all the time. All the tubes provifing water / nutreints to the tree are aranged around the outside of the trunk. If you ring it, you cut all water, instantly. The tree will wither and die, and that will be that.
Game over.
Cloggsy
27-04-06, 07:15 PM
guys, i dont know if you noticed my earlier post, a ring around the bark, 1 cm deep, will kill the tree. Basically instantly.
We used this all the time. All the tubes provifing water / nutreints to the tree are aranged around the outside of the trunk. If you ring it, you cut all water, instantly. The tree will wither and die, and that will be that.
Game over.
Noted :wink:
My father-in-law illegidly did a great job of killing huge conifers by exposing the roots & digging a load of copper sulphate around them... The tree was dead in a few days too :!:
seedy100
27-04-06, 09:09 PM
I know this works with leylandi - dont ask how!
Dig a hole to expose a major root underground as close as possible to the main trunk.
Drill a big hole into the root.
Three quarters fill the hole with Sodium Chlorate.
Hammer a wooden peg in to seal up the hole.
repeat as many times as you can.
Sit back an watch said tree become firewood.
The main benefit over ringbarking is that all the "damage" is underground and on your property so it will be difficult if not impossible for him to prove anything.
Good luck!
You can buy sodium chlorate weed killers from garden centers etc.
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