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454697819
09-05-06, 11:18 PM
On a serious note,
we have a kitten, :cat: shes lovely and about 30 weeks old, she has been spayed and bought up in a loving environment, but alas we cannot let her outside yet as we are worried she will be squished :x
Now shes developed a funny turn where she will suddenly attack us, quite violently with no way of making it subside untill shes had her "bit",
this is becoming concerning as she went for my face this evening and catherines before that....
We are tempted to get another cat to see if it will wear her out and help her with her Cat tendancies??
Does any one have any Serious suggestions?? were beggining to get worried.. :(
Please dont post stupid remarks like shove it in a bag and find the nearest river, i love cats and dont take "jokes" like that light heartedly (Sp?),
Cheers all
Alex n Kitten and the vicious :cat:
tomjones2
09-05-06, 11:27 PM
How about getting it some toys to play with or something, might get rid of some of the excess energy.
When our cats are naughty at home they get shouted at and this seems to put them off, they have never attacked peoples faces though thats potentaily quite serious.
Our love to chase light (torch, laser pens , reflections etc) you only have to do it for a few minutes and it keeps them entertained for hours whilst they try and work out where its gone.
Get another cat. Definitely. Every time I've seen a lone nutcase moggie, it's calmed down when a new one is added to the equation, so long as they are both young. At 30 weeks it needs something interactive to jump on. Unless you want to be that something then I recommend doubling up :)
Even if they despise each other at first, they'll get used to each other in a few weeks.
Anonymous
09-05-06, 11:47 PM
It is quite possible that, having spayed her, she is undergoing a hormonal change and experiencing a premature menopause which manifests itself in irrational behaviour.
Seeing you and Catherine together, particularly if you are enjoying a mutually tender moment, she may then experience uncontrollable rage that Catherine is about to get what she (the kitten) isn't. I've experienced this at first hand with various ex-partners - particularly the one that tried to scratch my eyes out when I was caught in a perfectly innocent clinch with the young girl from across the road ( I was merely demonstrating the reverse Heimlich).
To prove this, ask the kitten to change a light bulb - if she calls in the neighbours and sets up a Community Aid Group, then you will in fact know it is a menopausal condition. Then, merely enrol her in the WI, Townswomen's Guild or as a traffic warden.
If this doesn't work, try biting her back (no, not her back or she'll just think you are a randy old Tom, I mean in retaliation).
philipMac
10-05-06, 03:45 AM
We just gathered up two stray kittens, well, three, but one was eaten by a racoon.
Another story.
Anyway, all of them went fairly mental when they settled in. I just assumed it was kitten behaviour. What we got was a little green mouse, on a sort of fishing rod. The kittens just loved the green mouse, beat the crap out of it for about half an hour, took a nap, and then ate some food. When they came to me they just wanted to snuggle and purr and things.
So, yeah, try a sort of toy that you can jig about, so it doesnt associate you with games. Maybe :-k
Get one of those plastic spray bottles and dilute lemon juice and when it starts going off on one ...spray it...apparently cats dont like citrus......failing that put in a bag and take it too the river :lol: only kidding :wink:
Kitty needs an avenue for its more psychotic behaviour and the toys suggested above will provide such. However, it also needs to learn where the boundarys are: Whos kill-able, whos not: whats scratchable etc.
Solution - A well aimed shot between the eyes with a low-powered childs water pistol everytime it's behaviour is less than pleasing. They soon get the message.
wyrdness
10-05-06, 06:30 AM
Kittens love to play fight with each other. It can sometimes look vicious, but it's only play. They learn two important things though this:
How to defend themselves in a real fight against another cat
and, more importantly, that claws and teeth hurt and should only be used as a last resort.
If your kitten doesn't have a pal to play fight with, then she'll be trying to do it with you. Solution is probably to get a second kitty as a pal - they'll probably hate each other for the first few days, but hopefully will then become friends - this doesn't always happen though and sometimes they'll hate each other for life. The best thing is to get two siblings from the same litter.
Shinsei Jutsu
10-05-06, 07:33 AM
we've just got two kittens too. We won't let them out as we've had a couple run over in the last 2 years. They seem pretty calm as they play together and leave us and the other cat alone.
One of our now deceased cats had funny turns like that, we tried everything, but turned out she had worms and they were making her flip out. Got them sorted and after that she just licked everyone.
Also we were recommended something called a Panic Mouse. Never really looked into it, but apparently you switch it on and it plays with the cat for you. Varying speeds etc, and not much room needed. Find em on ebay I would think.
HTH
Have you tried doing a search for the feline websites, there must be some with advice, i used some of the dog ones recently for behavoural problems & it was great, seemed a bit strange though, being on a forum & not getting advice about my SV. :lol:
mudge32
10-05-06, 07:55 AM
Our two have a tendancy to go "nuts" for no apparent reason.
As Jack Dee once said "There isn't a cat alive that hasn't been nice and loving one minute and then for no reason suddenly go :smt097 " (or words to that effect :wink: )
On a similar note this is quite funny Kitten is Angry (http://www.lemondemon.com/lemondemon/Kitten%20Is%20Angry.mp3) A silly little ditty, sound required.
I've got an excellent book at home about all of this, I think it's called Cat Confidential - I'll check tonight.
The advice given is toys and climbing frames, don't get another cat, it might make it worse!
Nutts x
It could be sexual faustration shes taking out on you. :lol:
I would :smt070 :cat:
s'why you always get them in two's matey. Get another little play mate for it, my mother has 5 cats and they all chase each other round like little idiots :)
10 mins under the grill, a nice ciabtta, lettuce, onion, mayo....hmmmm
lmao well u guys certainly had more to say about that than I at first imagoned,
with regards to toys, believe me this kitten has more toys than most children!!
and she does do it really very randomlynot normally in play! cos we play with her alot but she never seems to get worn out! , I can be stroking her and she'll be purring away, next she has a claws and teeth deeply embedded in my arm! last night I couldnt get her off so I bit her back which resulted in a loud hiss and her runin away with some of my arm deeply embedded behind her claws.
with regards to the spaying and t being her hormones thing, well that does sound quite feesible and I am tempted to talk to a vet and see if there is anything that might help that!
about biting her back, we do that but to no avail, in fact its possibly made her worse, I've also tried just letting her bite me but this is obviously sending her all the wrong signals.
We've also got the spray gun and used it, this has worked for some things such as not walking on kitchen services but we havent really tried it as a deterrent from biting!
the weirdest thing is that she actually seems to give scared signals some of the time and psychologically speaking i wonder if she scared! but dont know what to do if she is!
I'm interested in the jealousy/hormonal/horny theory, but it doesnt fit all instances such as last night, Alex was out of the room.
So yeah nice work gys and thankyou so much, any other ideas are always appreciated, we love her to bits despite her slightly psycho-bitch kitten of satan moments! and we want her to be a happy member of our household!
THANKYOU :smt040
oh yeah and regards all forms of desposal of maddy, thas a NO! but thankyou anyway lols,
C@ xx
Scooby Drew
10-05-06, 10:35 AM
My brother had a kitten that started doing this. The kitten would be all loving and then go nuts. My brother took him to the vet who had a first hand experience of this. After enquiring about the breeding, he said that it was genetic and would not change. They put him down which broke my heart cos he was lovely :cry: Hope you don't have to do this and it's just a phase.
mrs cuffy
10-05-06, 11:11 AM
Well being an animal lover myself I can imagine how your feeling!
Next time she goes into one of her funnies pick her up put her in another room shut the door and leave her for about 1/2 hour to hour depending on her attitude!!
I suggested this to a friend of mine she had a kitten situation was alittle different but it worked!!!
Good Luck. :cat:
Get it a hamster or a budgie to play with :lol:
Terence
10-05-06, 09:16 PM
( I was merely demonstrating the reverse Heimlich)
I must remember that one for future reference :lol:
Get it a hamster or a budgie to play with :lol:
as much as I'm sure she'd love this, I'm not sure that the RSPCA would!
nice idea mrs cuffy! will try it out for sure!
el bocadillo did write a fabulous response :smt046 it had me in stitches!
10 mins under the grill, a nice ciabtta, lettuce, onion, mayo....hmmmm :winner:
:smt068 :cat: :smt066 :smt059
northwind
10-05-06, 10:21 PM
As harsh as it can sound, cats (and kittens) do this partly to find your limits and establish a pecking order. When my friend's first lot reached about that age, they were plain vicious- the resaon being, when they attacked, she ran away. She kept on feeding them, talking to them, playing with them, but when they were aggressive she let them have their way. That tells the cat "I'm in charge. Humans feed me, play with me, and fear me"
I'm not advocating beating them up! We got into manhandling them a bit more with gloves when they were in scratching/biting mode- teaching them that biting and scratching wouldn't put her off or win the day for them. Worked that one out by accident while wearing the bike gear, one went for me and I was immune ;) She never did it again, didn't have to hurt her, just showed that claws got her nowhere. Squirty gun with cold water worked on three of them too. The other one is a water fetishist :roll:
philipMac
10-05-06, 10:41 PM
As harsh as it can sound, cats (and kittens) do this partly to find your limits and establish a pecking order. When my friend's first lot reached about that age, they were plain vicious- the resaon being, when they attacked, she ran away. She kept on feeding them, talking to them, playing with them, but when they were aggressive she let them have their way. That tells the cat "I'm in charge. Humans feed me, play with me, and fear me"
I'm not advocating beating them up! We got into manhandling them a bit more with gloves when they were in scratching/biting mode- teaching them that biting and scratching wouldn't put her off or win the day for them. Worked that one out by accident while wearing the bike gear, one went for me and I was immune ;) She never did it again, didn't have to hurt her, just showed that claws got her nowhere. Squirty gun with cold water worked on three of them too. The other one is a water fetishist :roll:
Actually this might be a point.
I wore bike gloves whenever our kittens were getting a bit out of hand and threw them into the (empty) bath tub to chill out, and, a mate of mine, A MATE MIND, would GENTLY punch his kitten in the face.
That probably looked bad right there.
I have to say, it ended up being a good cat, after a couple of punches to the head of course. I wasnt the one doing the GBH though. Just so you know.
i think the plenty of toys (change them every now and then to stop them getting bored) and the waterbottle trick may help for a start. going for your face is ruddy scary :smt106
Anonymous
10-05-06, 11:09 PM
After a lot of research, I have worked out what the problem is: you do not have a cat, you have in fact purchased a Gremlin.
Gremlin:
http://upload4.postimage.org/221002/Crazy.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/221002/photo_hosting.html)
Cat:
http://upload3.postimage.org/219343/Gremlins_Gizmo.jpg (http://upload3.postimage.org/219343/photo_hosting.html)
tomjones2
10-05-06, 11:35 PM
Anyone else find that cats hate bike gear?
Hovers are another weapon of choice, or compressed air i saw was being used on bad dogs.
An airhorn might have amusing effects too.
northwind
10-05-06, 11:40 PM
What i found is comedy gold, is walkman headphones, heavy metal, and a kitten. They have no idea what's going on :)
The solution to your problem is definitely getting another cat. We have an 8 month old Somali(cat smart ****) male and he kept on going nuts until we started babysitting the breeder’s cats on a regular basis. One of these cats is exactly his own age. They spend 2 days at the time going nuts by chasing and scratching the hell out of each other and then an entire day sleeping it off. Ever since he is a lot more gentle with his bites and claws. When he is alone a water pistol or loud shrieks work 100% at the time but unfortunately I can't seem to carry it on me at all times so that I can spray him when he is scratching the bed.
As he needs to burn some energy he still likes to have a wrestle with my hands(ouch) and he always looses when I put on my motorcycle gloves but not because I hurt him, just because I wrestle with him as a cat would and when I overpower him he gets tired.
We have been promised another kitten(his mother is giving birth next week) which is going to be great as they will entertain each other while we are at work(we don't let him out as we are afraid he would get run over or stolen as he is a gorgeous show quality pedigree cat) and probably become healthier by exercising together.
sharriso74
11-05-06, 08:46 AM
The bike glove one works a treat although my winter gloves don't work as well the teeth go through. When mine was a kitten he loved rolled up socks used to beat the cr*p out of em. Ended up with holes in most my socks.
After a lot of research, I have worked out what the problem is: you do not have a cat, you have in fact purchased a Gremlin.
Gremlin:
http://upload4.postimage.org/221002/Crazy.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/221002/photo_hosting.html)
Cat:
http://upload3.postimage.org/219343/Gremlins_Gizmo.jpg (http://upload3.postimage.org/219343/photo_hosting.html)
ahhh i can c that now thankyou! lols
seriously guys, the suggestions are great, last night I spent a good hour non stop playin with her, with gloves and her favourite toys, she's been much calmer today,
definitely still thinking of getting another kitten as the company would do her good anyway I'm sure! calling the vets later to see if theres anything else I can do!
keep em rollin in xxxx
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