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If I upset or offended anyone last night by my comments on the 'Suicide' thread.
I am naturally very sensitive about the subject because of my brother, but I shouldn't have made the comment about GYND and others like him being lower than a snakes belly.
Everyone IS entitled to their own opinion, and I should have just done what I eventually did, went off to lick my wounds in private.
Sorry folks.
I think yesterday touched a nerve with most people (myself included) Take it easy Lissa :grouphug:
21QUEST
26-05-06, 07:15 AM
I did not know what you were referencing so just checked up. Personally I would
not .......
More to say but not the place. What I would say is my admiration goes out to you
Cheers
Ben
i've read the thread, and you've no need to apologise at all lissa
Lissa,
I haven't read the whole thread.........
Sounds like one of those occasional GYKD provocative posts that used to be posted to stimulate debate, sometimes less than wholesome.
I don't know whther you need to apologise or not, but others seem to think not. However, you have apologised and that's both brave and decent of you. Much more decent that the first post in that thread IMHO.
In other words, don't worry about it.
I Just read the thread Lissa. You had every right to say what you did. GYKD is full of it most the time and will post anything to seek attention.
Sorry for your loss Lissa.
GYKD contrdicts himself a lot....as Lynn pointed out and i hope he can see the sense in posting more suitable topics in the future
No apology necessary Lissa (well, certainly not from you at any rate).
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Shinsei Jutsu
26-05-06, 08:26 AM
I got part way through that thread, but couldn't believe how sick some people are. no need to appologise Lissa.
I hope there will be another topic with a similar title from you know who.
Anonymous
26-05-06, 08:47 AM
Lissa, as far as i am concerned there is absolutely nothing to apologise for. You're comments were based on belief and experience and thats perfectly alright.
I said a lot of things i shouldnt have, other people did the same.
The more people argue with me, the more i argue back, and things tend to get way out of control, especially on a forum where you cant see the context or expression in how something is said/meant.
At the end of the day, its only a motorcycle forum. I dont know the folks on here, they dont know me. To pass judgement on people based on however many posts that person has made on here, to me, is just incomprehensible. The thread was posted a) to let you know what was happening in York (like many people post about their own towns when something happens) b) to create debate. Naturally given the nature and subject of the debate, it opened the gates to some extremely sensitive personal experiences.
For that, i wish to apologise.
If i caused anyone to relive hard memories, or dug up some past which was perhaps best left in the corner of ones mind, I'm sorry.
You've no need to apologise Lissa, I'm guessing that thread was meant to upset/rile a few people.
Spiderman
26-05-06, 08:59 AM
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Im sorry to. If i caused anyone to relive hard memories, or dug up some past which was perhaps best left in the corner of ones mind, I apologise.
If you feel the need to appologise maybe you should start your own appology thread and not hijack someone elses? just a thought.
Also, if you are genuinely sorry to have caused peeps to dig up some bad memories then you may remember this thread the next time you want to post something that may do just that. This is a place for peeps to relax imo and share time with peeps with one common element. Bikes. Not a place where they expect some of the darkest times in their lives brought to the fore.
I stayed well out of that other thread but i felt i had to comment if you have an appology you feel you need to make.
Anonymous
26-05-06, 09:07 AM
If you feel the need to appologise maybe you should start your own appology thread and not hijack someone elses? just a thought.
What, and fill the forum with a shed load of "im sorry" style threads. Makes more sense to keep them all together.
Also, if you are genuinely sorry to have caused peeps to dig up some bad memories then you may remember this thread the next time you want to post something that may do just that. This is a place for peeps to relax imo and share time with peeps with one common element. Bikes. Not a place where they expect some of the darkest times in their lives brought to the fore.
It is also an Idle Banter Forum. And in Forums, debate takes place. Some of those debates will be about silly things, others will be about issues that the majority of us shirk away from. That thread being one such example of said issues.
I accept that i made comments which were uncalled for, but i stand by my decision to have a thread on the subject. The timing perhaps was wrong, or badly thought out. But the purpose of the thread still stands. I actually urged the mods to lock the thread for the sanity of all involved about 3 pages from the end (did it via PM) they decided unanomously to allow it to run its course to see how it died out.
Spiderman
26-05-06, 09:44 AM
If you feel the need to appologise maybe you should start your own appology thread and not hijack someone elses? just a thought.
What, and fill the forum with a shed load of "im sorry" style threads. Makes more sense to keep them all together.
I'm not getting into a debate with you about this but its not filling the forum with anything. Its just one post from you with a suitable title like Lisaaaa has done.
Hijacking someones appology thread is like jumping on the band wagon imho. There are plenty of people who may be expecting you to appologise who wont have read this thread to see what you have said.
Anyway, i'm staying out of it from here on in, so go for gold if you want.
tomjones2
26-05-06, 10:21 AM
You have nothing to applogise for lissa, i'm very sorry for your loss and i hope u have/can find some peace with what happened.
socommk23
26-05-06, 11:18 AM
we all said things that others did not like! me included!
i dont think appologies are needed as we should be able to move on, forgive and forget.
but i will appologise too.
sorry guys!
i dont think appologies are needed as we should be able to move on, forgive and forget.
but i will appologise too.
sorry guys!
You acted like a total pillock and i doubt anyone cares for your apology
i dont think appologies are needed as we should be able to move on, forgive and forget.
but i will appologise too.
sorry guys!
You acted like a total pillock and i doubt anyone cares for your apology
So socommk just sent me a pm to tell me i look a loser for saying what i just said to him.... :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: the guy has not got a clue
So socommk just sent me a pm to tell me i look a loser for saying what i just said to him.... :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: the guy has not got a clue
But he had the decency to send it via PM. :roll:
So socommk just sent me a pm to tell me i look a loser for saying what i just said to him.... :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: the guy has not got a clue
But he had the decency to send it via PM. :roll:
Hm....good point
Anonymous
26-05-06, 11:48 AM
Is this really neccessary folks?
We had a row, some people lost respect, a few others gained it - each of us have a different opinion of everyone else.
Personally i couldnt give two hoots what y'all think of me. I dunno you, you dunno me... its a damned internet forum.
I vote we just drop the whole thing and carry on as (relatively) normal.
Can peeps please start to chill and think carefully before they post as, after last night's suicide thread, the Admin and Moderator team have decided that heads are about to roll.
Posts should be polite (as far as is possible) and show respect for fellow forum users. Forum members that insist on troll-like behaviour and causing a continual air of bad feeling will simply be excluded from participating in this great community.
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Can peeps please start to chill and think carefully before they post as, after last night's suicide thread, the Admin and Moderator team have decided that heads are about to roll.
Posts should be polite (as far as is possible) and show respect for fellow forum users. Forum members that insist on troll-like behaviour and causing a continual air of bad feeling will simply be excluded from participating in this great community.
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Quite.
Anyone wanna Hug?
21QUEST
26-05-06, 12:02 PM
You offering or just asking . Go o then I'll have one :lol:
Cheers
Ben
Lissa, in my opinion you have nothing to apologise for, you did nothing wrong, you just had your opinion like everyone else. No apologies needed.
But seeing as you feel the need to say sorry, then I guess I should say sorry too.
Maybe my post was a little "too much detail" :oops:
So apologies if I offended or upset anyone.
Hopefully we've all learned a valuable lesson here....
Life is precious.
J
xx
Lissa, you didn't have to apologise. I know about the pain that can be caused to family and close friends when someone has depression and is thinking about suicide/commits suicide or self-harms.
I'm not proud of the last comment I made in that thread. Sorry
Gary
my mother once said to me "if you cant say something nice, dont say anything"
how right she was.
after last night's suicide thread, the Admin and Moderator team have decided that heads are about to roll.
You guys are more tollerant than I would have been. Good on yer - for being tollerant, I mean* =D>
*my entry for Sycophant of the Year 2006 :wink:
northwind
26-05-06, 06:44 PM
If you feel the need to appologise maybe you should start your own appology thread and not hijack someone elses? just a thought.
FFS. He can't do anything right by some people, can he? The man just apologised, and it was in a sensible place to put it, since they both relate to the same thread. How is that hijacking? If anything, you've hijacked the thread yourself to let off some anti GYKD steam, which was completely irrelevant to the original.
Steve W
26-05-06, 07:25 PM
'I disapprove of what you say, but I wil defend to the death your right to say it' Supposed to be Voltaire but in fact a summary of Voltaire's attitude.
I read yesterdy's thread with interest cos I live near York and because a similar thing happened in a car park near my office about a fortnight okay...
It seems to me everyone should have the right to express their opinions and given the thread's heading maybe people who did not want to expose raw feelings should have not read the stuff. As my father used to say when people complained about stuff on TV... there is an off button.
Also it would be good if people expressed themselves without personal abuse; sometimes that's difficult depending on the subject matter but if they don't they then they should stop posting... or, after being warned, be stopped. Abusing people does not change their minds or provoke debate it just hardens attitudes...
It does help if when posting controversial stuff people have some thought about how it's going to be received.... winding people up for the sake of it on sensitive subjects doesn't seem to me what an internet forum should be about.
It's impossible to know if people's apologies are genuine but they should be treated as such.
Sermon over :wink:
winding people up for the sake of it on sensitive subjects doesn't seem to me what an internet forum should be about.
Couldn't agree more...........shame some people on here seem to do it for kicks :evil:
If you feel the need to appologise maybe you should start your own appology thread and not hijack someone elses? just a thought.
FFS. He can't do anything right by some people, can he?
no :lol:
Sorry but I'm with Northwind on this one.
I know some things were said and issues were raised and some feelings were hurt but, as far as I know, this is mostly adults on here and if we can't act like adults and accept an apology when one is given then how are we to carry on??
If you can't accept an apology then I'd hate to be your wife/husband and on the receiveing end of an argument. You would be forever angry. How can you live like that?
Life is about accepting people for who they are; and accepting at times that we are not always right.
The guy felt he was wrong and he said sorry.
That should be enough.
Life is too short.
Spiderman
27-05-06, 11:59 AM
If you feel the need to appologise maybe you should start your own appology thread and not hijack someone elses? just a thought.
FFS. He can't do anything right by some people, can he? The man just apologised, and it was in a sensible place to put it, since they both relate to the same thread. How is that hijacking? If anything, you've hijacked the thread yourself to let off some anti GYKD steam, which was completely irrelevant to the original.
I've got no anti GYKD steam in me mate. See here (http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?p=552367&highlight=#552367)for my normal response to a post by Joe.
If you look at the suicide thread i didnt post a single thing in there.
My simple point was that if he had started his own appology thread maybe more people wouuld have seen it and put their responses to him in there.
I think that by mixing his appology in with Lissa's it diluted any real appology from him. After all Lissa said very little to annoy anyone and she felt like appologising for her own reasons, GYKD knew he had upset a lot of people and even went back to change his original comments in the suicide thread so that others who had not read his original comments would not see why everyone was having a pop at him.
If I felt i needed to appologise to the forum as a group then i would deinately start my own thread so people could see it and respond to me and the issues i may have caused them. I felt it was unfair to hijack Lisa's thread for what could have become a 5 page debate about how Joe had upset certain members.
And if you look closely Northy, you will see i did say "just a thought"
Warthog
27-05-06, 12:03 PM
I agree with Northwind. Also from a complete third person point of view, this:
i dont think appologies are needed as we should be able to move on, forgive and forget.
but i will appologise too.
sorry guys!
You acted like a total pillock and i doubt anyone cares for your apology
was completely uncalled for.
I agree with Northwind. Also from a complete third person point of view, this:
i dont think appologies are needed as we should be able to move on, forgive and forget.
but i will appologise too.
sorry guys!
You acted like a total pillock and i doubt anyone cares for your apology
was completely uncalled for.
You are welcome to your opinion as i am to mine :wink:
Supervox
27-05-06, 02:24 PM
You are welcome to your opinion as i am to mine :wink:
But your 'opinion' is just basically personal abuse - no reasoned argument or even credible input.
Exactly what we should try to avoid & what this forum DOESN'T need !!
You are welcome to your opinion as i am to mine :wink:
But your 'opinion' is just basically personal abuse - no reasoned argument or even credible input.
Exactly what we should try to avoid & what this forum DOESN'T need !!
I re read the thread and i still stand by with what i said and if anyone has a problem with that well tough!!!
northwind
27-05-06, 06:09 PM
I think that by mixing his appology in with Lissa's it diluted any real appology from him.
I'm going to further derail Lissa's apology with my own ;) You got painted with the wrong brush there Spidey, I can see you meant it genuinely and not as a dig.
Spiderman
27-05-06, 06:13 PM
[quote=northwind]
I think that by mixing his appology in with Lissa's it diluted any real appology from him.
I'm going to further derail Lissa's apology with my own ;) You got painted with the wrong brush there Spidey, I can see you meant it genuinely and not as a dig.
Ah, glad that came across Northy.
Its great when we all get on and see eye to eye innit? :grouphug:
Anonymous
27-05-06, 07:26 PM
So what happened these last few days? ive not been on for ages and seems theres been a massive row or summat? started readin that sucide thread but gave up after 2 pages... is that wat it is all about?
:?
Just got back from my hols in France - looks like I didn't miss much while I was away then :lol:
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