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I recall there being a Top Gun thread recently, I've just watched it on TV.
I forgotten how, well, erm,.........crap it is.
Its cheesy, the acting is pants, the story is weak and the continuity is awfull.
[GEEK!]
There is no such thing as a MIG-28 (migs always have odd number designations anyway) plus since when did the Russians have excocet missiles ?
Also (and I'm open to be corrected here as I only have a basic understanding of aerodynamics and bernoulli's law) flying canopy to canopy like that is impossible.
[/GEEK!]
Goose also needs to workout more if he's going to take his shirt off.
:D :wink: :P
Anonymous
29-05-06, 09:09 PM
You watched it on Sky 1! HEhehe i did too.
I like it, for exactly the reasons you say - its cheesy, the acting is poor to say the least and there are so many mistakes.
But its a good blokes film. Guy meets girl, falls in love, flies fast jet, mate gets killed, rides a bike, shags his bird, gets back in plane, wins the war, gets promoted...and gets the girl.
:lol:
It was a film not a documentary so its a tad inaccurate. A fair bit of "dramatic" licence [and I use that with dramtic licence too given the acting :wink: ] was taken.
Theres a site listing over several hundred errors on it if you need to be that geeky. If you do, gimme a shout Ill find the link. :P :lol:
And it was a GPZ750.
*runs and hides :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-28_(fictional)
DanAbnormal
29-05-06, 09:19 PM
I used to love that film, back when I was a kid. And while the acting is pants and Kelly McGillis is a total minger some of the aerial camerawork is still excellent. The Mig 28's were actually U.S F5 Tiger II's (I love aircraft and not ashamed of it.......perhaps I should be) :wink:
DanAbnormal
29-05-06, 09:21 PM
[GEEK!]
Also (and I'm open to be corrected here as I only have a basic understanding of aerodynamics and bernoulli's law) flying canopy to canopy like that is impossible.
[/GEEK!]
Yeah they would have ripped each others tailplanes off.
Sorry, I'll be quiet now. :D
And it was a GPZ750.
*runs and hides :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol:
The Basket
29-05-06, 09:28 PM
The Soviets put odd numbers for fighters and even numbers for bombers.
The F-14 Tomcat is almost now out of US Navy service. The only country which still flies them is Iran!!!
kwak zzr
29-05-06, 09:29 PM
i watched first blood the other day and the same applies! it was great 20 years ago tho :oops:
The Mig 28's were actually U.S F5 Tiger II's
At least one of them is a twin seater, so that would be a F5(F) or possibly a T38.
The F-5(E)s (MIG's in the film) where actually used as adversary aircraft at Fighter Weapons School more than A4's where.
I'll get me coat. :D
I'll get me coat. :D
wouldnt a bomber jacket be more appropriate? :wink: :P :lol:
I'll get me coat. :D
wouldnt a bomber jacket be more appropriate? :wink: :P :lol:
With loads of badges sewn on ? :lol: :lol: :lol:
DanAbnormal
29-05-06, 09:53 PM
I was just reading that the certain people specualted that the filthy ruskies may have actually captured a some F5's during the fall of Saigon and reverse engineered them to create their own version of the fighter; allegdley called the Mig28 Fishhook. Conspiracy theorists eh!
*tumbleweed rolls silently across the ground. :D
The Basket
29-05-06, 09:58 PM
Yes...The Russians and the Poles both had captured F-5's and have them shown in museums today...along with A-37's. Both from the air forces of South Vietnam.
If u want I can put the pix up if u wish :D How sad is that!!
I doubt the russians built F-5 as they were not exactly top notch fighters but certainly would have stolen ideas.
stewboy
29-05-06, 10:07 PM
please don not be taking the p out of my top gun or my tommy ... he is the daddy :lol:
end of
De railment.....
Top Gun V Star Wars......
It's hard to land an X-Wing
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stewboy
29-05-06, 10:17 PM
I recall there being a Top Gun thread recently, I've just watched it on TV.
I forgotten how, well, erm,.........crap it is.
Its cheesy, the acting is pants, the story is weak and the continuity is awfull.
[GEEK!]
There is no such thing as a MIG-28 (migs always have odd number designations anyway) plus since when did the Russians have excocet missiles ?
Also (and I'm open to be corrected here as I only have a basic understanding of aerodynamics and bernoulli's law) flying canopy to canopy like that is impossible.
[/GEEK!]
Goose also needs to workout more if he's going to take his shirt off.
:D :wink: :P
i think you should be banned from our site :smt067
:wink:
http://upload4.postimage.org/296624/f14.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/296624/photo_hosting.html)
The Basket
29-05-06, 10:27 PM
]http://koti.mbnet.fi/base_/omituiset/photos/XwingNavy_s.jpg
Oh this has clearly been photoshopped. Doesn't even look real.
X wings can land vertically anyway. :wink:
]http://koti.mbnet.fi/base_/omituiset/photos/XwingNavy_s.jpg
Oh this has clearly been photoshopped. Doesn't even look real.
X wings can land vertically anyway. :wink:
Yes I agree, but Yoda and Luke make such a big deal about recovering one from a swap... kind of red neck, yeee harrr
Amanda M
30-05-06, 07:59 AM
I watched Top Gun again last night :) I love that film 8)
I'm not saying anything about the GPZ900R in it though :wink: :lol:
lukemillar
30-05-06, 09:12 AM
I watched Top Gun again last night :) I love that film 8)
I'm not saying anything about the GPZ900R in it though :wink: :lol:
I'm with you and Stewboy on this one! Top Gun is great film with a great soundtrack :D
Flight of the Intruder, if you want a truly great cheesy Navy aviation film.
:D
I watched Top Gun again last night :) I love that film 8)
I'm not saying anything about the GPZ900R in it though :wink: :lol:
I'm with you and Stewboy on this one! Top Gun is great film with a great soundtrack :D
Yep i'm with you guys
I love that film!
I'm a hopeless romantic and Tom Cruise is just Scrummy in it.
First watched it when it first came out (Now I am showing my age!) and loved it then!
If I have trouble sleeping Top Gun is always the film to watch at 3am!!
"Hey Stud! Take to me bed and love me forever!"
Wicked!! :D :D :D :D
Bike scene is brill, air shots are awesome, Tom cruise in the Shades.... priceless!! :love:
!
"Hey Stud! Take to me bed and love me forever!"
Hey Goose you big stud - take me to bed or lose me forever
stewboy
30-05-06, 10:33 AM
...Slider ......... you stink. :wink:
lukemillar
30-05-06, 10:49 AM
Maverick: Requesting permission for flyby.
Tower: That's a negative ghostrider, the pattern is full.
:wink:
Kelly McGillis is a total minger
:shock:
maybe now, not then !!
Samnooshka
30-05-06, 11:05 AM
I missed it, not too worried though i don't think i can put up with Tom Cruise for more than 25 minutes at a time :roll: .
The films not too bad though, for a lazy night infront of the box when nothing else is on ;)
Sammy
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 01:03 PM
Kelly McGillis is a total minger
:shock:
maybe now, not then !!
Well in my opinion she is a total **** fairy, even back when the film came out. Teeth like stonehenge! Gah.
But beuty is in the eye of the beerholder. I mean beholder. Sorry. :wink:
Warthog
30-05-06, 01:09 PM
Did anyone see the program afterwards: Bruce Dickinson investigating spontaneous human combustion! Beat Top Gun haha.
I mean, an American movies that doesn't portrait the full truth..... NEVER heard of that one before....
Stop whinging, its a timeless classic with some top tunes, some dodgy acting, and a whole load of very horny fighter aircraft action shots........
:twisted: 8)
Amanda M
30-05-06, 01:19 PM
I mean, an American movies that doesn't portrait the full truth..... NEVER heard of that one before....
Stop whinging, its a timeless classic with some top tunes, some dodgy acting, and a whole load of very horny fighter aircraft action shots........
:twisted: 8)
:winner: Couldn't agree more 8)
sharriso74
30-05-06, 01:20 PM
Just started doing my PPL so asked the wife if I was like Tom Cruise in Top Gun she said nah more like Topper Harley in Hot Shots. Bloody names stuck now even my mates are calling me Topper
Amanda M
30-05-06, 01:23 PM
Just started doing my PPL so asked the wife if I was like Tom Cruise in Top Gun she said nah more like Topper Harley in Hot Shots. Bloody names stuck now even my mates are calling me Topper
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Just started doing my PPL so asked the wife if I was like Tom Cruise in Top Gun she said nah more like Topper Harley in Hot Shots. Bloody names stuck now even my mates are calling me Topper
Ha ha, another terrible but cool classic.
Topper, oooooohhhhh topper (that lass wasn't all bad though 8) )
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 01:26 PM
I never said I hated it. A classic movie just like the other 100 naff but great ones. Days Of Thunder!!!
"And here comes Cole Trickle in the lead"
Wicked!
[GEEK!]
Also (and I'm open to be corrected here as I only have a basic understanding of aerodynamics and bernoulli's law) flying canopy to canopy like that is impossible.
[/GEEK!]
Yeah they would have ripped each others tailplanes off.
Sorry, I'll be quiet now. :D
Not so...the F5 (Russian Mig) has a single tail. The F14 has dual tails, so the Mig's would just slide between.
Found on the site that corrects errors in the film
Goto this site for over 100 errors/corrections http://www.moviemistakes.com
The Basket
30-05-06, 01:40 PM
The F-14 Mig28 thing wasn't actually done you know.
Trick of the camera. Just thought I would clear that up. :wink:
The F-14 Mig28 thing wasn't actually done you know.
Trick of the camera. Just thought I would clear that up. :wink:
Yep but its possable.
Also its is possable that Goose died the way they showed as the F-14 had shown this problem in the past before it was corrected.
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 01:43 PM
Not so...the F5 (Russian Mig) has a single tail. The F14 has dual tails, so the Mig's would just slide between.
Found on the site that corrects errors in the film
Okay t his is a real geek banter so all you normal folk move along, nothing to see here :D
Yes BUT............look how close those canopies were, a couple of feet apart. I know the tailplanes were a single on the F5 and double on the Tomcat but they are also very tall and would have torn chunks out of each others fueselage or worse still torn them both off. Mind you that would have been quite funny.
Anyway I'm leaving before someone notices how geeky we sound.........too late!
The Basket
30-05-06, 01:45 PM
Yeah...anything is possible.
The F-14 is a surprisingly flawed aircraft in some respects.
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 01:50 PM
Yeah...anything is possible.
The F-14 is a surprisingly flawed aircraft in some respects.
True. You ever see that movie of an F14 doing a supersonic flyby and then it suddenly explodes?
Was filmed from a US Navy ship and was quite amazing/scary. Will try to find it. Faulty fuel pumps was a big problem.
Yeah...anything is possible.
The F-14 is a surprisingly flawed aircraft in some respects.
True. You ever see that movie of an F14 doing a supersonic flyby and then it suddenly explodes?
Was filmed from a US Navy ship and was quite amazing/scary. Will try to find it. Faulty fuel pumps was a big problem.
This one?
http://www.pyroserve.com/tsm/f14aExplosion.wmv
Mad!!!!!!!! Just gone through the sound barrier and looked to bank right, only to do something to make it go bang.
Take it the pilot never had a chance.
I'd still risk it!!!! Any day!!!
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 02:00 PM
JESUS!
That's the one. How he survived that is just amazing. I read somewhere that the pilot had destroyed 3 F-14's in a 6 month period and was in a lot of trouble after that. He did a supersonic flyby when not authorised. Obviously thought he was Maverick.
Amanda M
30-05-06, 02:01 PM
:shock: :shock: Holy crap!
The Basket
30-05-06, 02:02 PM
The US navy has pulled the F-14 out of front line duties. Age, not able to bomb and Flankers a big issue.
Let's see what Iran do with 'em. :D I'm sure we will find out soon enough.
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 02:04 PM
The US navy has pulled the F-14 out of front line duties. Age, not able to bomb and Flankers a big issue.
Let's see what Iran do with 'em. :D I'm sure we will find out soon enough.
A shame, it such a beautiful aircraft. Which is the replacement, the F-22 or the JSF?
F22 had loads of problems i think. I remember reading books on them when they were still being designed back in the early 80's (Technology on the planes was still more advanced than most computer systems/game systems today!!!) Head up displays etc..
F14 is still one of my favourite planes ever. Just something about that shape that says to me "im a plane, but im the muhammed Ali of planes" :lol:
F15, F16, F18 etc just didn't do anything for me.
The Basket
30-05-06, 02:10 PM
The US navy has pulled the F-14 out of front line duties. Age, not able to bomb and Flankers a big issue.
Let's see what Iran do with 'em. :D I'm sure we will find out soon enough.
A shame, it such a beautiful aircraft. Which is the replacement, the F-22 or the JSF?
The Replacement is the F-18 Super Hornet. I have heard nothing of a Navy F-22 Raptor.
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=F22+plane&hl=en
Amanda M
30-05-06, 02:25 PM
Oh the F22 is stunning 8) That pic of it flying at sunset is amazing 8) It's called a raptor too, so that makes it doubly 8)
When it comes to US Navy Jets the F4 will always be the daddy (for me anyway).
The Basket
30-05-06, 02:29 PM
F-8 Crusader for me.
I mean, an American movies that doesn't portrait the full truth..... NEVER heard of that one before....
Stop whinging, its a timeless classic with some top tunes, some dodgy acting, and a whole load of very horny fighter aircraft action shots........
:twisted: 8)
:winner: Couldn't agree more 8)
Ok give you the aerial scenes are superb, the rest is just cringewothy toss. (as is most of the soft rock soundtrack)
:twisted: :wink:
Amanda M
30-05-06, 02:32 PM
I mean, an American movies that doesn't portrait the full truth..... NEVER heard of that one before....
Stop whinging, its a timeless classic with some top tunes, some dodgy acting, and a whole load of very horny fighter aircraft action shots........
:twisted: 8)
:winner: Couldn't agree more 8)
Ok give you the aerial scenes are superb, the rest is just cringewothy toss. (as is most of the AOR soundtrack)
:twisted: :wink:
:lol: :lol: It's cos it's so cheesy that it's so good :wink:
Matter of opinion.
Sitting on the dock of the bay is one of my all time favourites, and im only 25.......
You need to buy the sound track.
Cringeworthy toss, i'd say the sales of the film from when it was brought out would tell you otherwise :wink:
But if you think Top Gun is bad, then you haven't seen any American Films from the last 10 years :lol:
:lol: :lol: It's cos it's so cheesy that it's so good :wink:
Just like
The A-Team
KnightRider
The Goonies
Etc... All poo really, but timeless classics that everyone loves the watch.. 8)
Amanda M
30-05-06, 02:35 PM
Matter of opinion.
Sitting on the dock of the bay is one of my all time favourites, and im only 25.......
You need to buy the sound track.
Cringeworthy toss, i'd say the sales of the film from when it was brought out would tell you otherwise :wink:
But if you think Top Gun is bad, then you haven't seen any American Films from the last 10 years :lol:
I'm sure I've still got the sound track somewhere at home :lol: I used to sing along quite merrily to that (very badly though :oops: )
Amanda M
30-05-06, 02:36 PM
:lol: :lol: It's cos it's so cheesy that it's so good :wink:
Just like
The A-Team
KnightRider
The Goonies
Etc... All poo really, but timeless classics that everyone loves the watch.. 8)
The Goonies :lol: :lol: I love that film too, although it's not as good as Top Gun of course.
What about The Lost Boys? That's one of my faves too and that's proper cheesy 8)
Filipe M.
30-05-06, 02:43 PM
Matter of opinion.
Sitting on the dock of the bay is one of my all time favourites, and im only 25.......
You need to buy the sound track.
Cringeworthy toss, i'd say the sales of the film from when it was brought out would tell you otherwise :wink:
But if you think Top Gun is bad, then you haven't seen any American Films from the last 10 years :lol:
I'm sure I've still got the sound track somewhere at home :lol: I used to sing along quite merrily to that (very badly though :oops: )
:-dd "Take my bread awayyyyyyyyyy...." :-dd
Ward8124
30-05-06, 02:45 PM
You're all geeks.
That is all.
Runs for cover :shock:
Matter of opinion.
Sitting on the dock of the bay is one of my all time favourites, and im only 25.......
You need to buy the sound track.
Cringeworthy toss, i'd say the sales of the film from when it was brought out would tell you otherwise :wink:
But if you think Top Gun is bad, then you haven't seen any American Films from the last 10 years :lol:
When Top Gun came out (I was 16) I thought it was one of the best films ever made.
I probably held that view until I watched the other night (probably 10 years since I'd last seen it) It made me cringe, it was just so cheesy and embarrassing.
As for the soundtrack, Otis Redding's Dock of the Bay is a timeless classic and a brilliant song, I will even reluctantly admit that I like Kenny Loggins "Dangerzone" :oops:
As for the rest of the soundtrack I stand by my earlier comments.
Unfortunately I have seen a lot of American films in the last 10 years, and I agree, sadly most of them are worst than Top Gun.
:D
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 02:51 PM
[quote="sv_dan
The Replacement is the F-18 Super Hornet. I have heard nothing of a Navy F-22 Raptor.
Strange. Many U.S. carriers run the Hornet along side the Tomcat. I thought the Tomcat was used for CAP and Interception and the Hornet for deep strike missions. I also saw a documentary about the new breed of US carriers (CV52?)and they will outfit the F22's with tail hooks so they can be used by the Navy.
My favourite jet for looks is the A4 Skyhawk or F86/F Sabre and F101C Super Sabre. Can't wait for Farnborough Air show. Handy I live in Farnborough!
I think my favourite all time cheesy film though has to be Iron Eagle! Class!
socommk23
30-05-06, 02:51 PM
if they made any hollywood movies acurate they would be very boring and short!
people would die with one shot! airplanes would run out of fuel! and the girls in so called scary movies would never get naked and into the shower when in the house alone with a murderer on the loose!
and that just wouldnt be playing cricket!
lol
lukemillar
30-05-06, 02:56 PM
:lol: :lol: It's cos it's so cheesy that it's so good :wink:
Just like
The A-Team
KnightRider
The Goonies
Etc... All poo really, but timeless classics that everyone loves the watch.. 8)
The Goonies :lol: :lol: I love that film too, although it's not as good as Top Gun of course.
What about The Lost Boys? That's one of my faves too and that's proper cheesy 8)
None of these are cheesy - Just quality 80s TV/film. Also
Ferris Buellers Day Off
Breakfast Club
Flight Of The Navigator
Never Ending Story
Gremlins
Karate Kid
Back To The Future
Labyrinth
:D
socommk23
30-05-06, 03:00 PM
in all the old plane movies the migs are never migs! i think in top gun they were f5 tigers!
havent read all the post on this so nudge me if i repeating what already said.
None of these are cheesy - Just quality 80s TV/film. Also
Ferris Buellers Day Off
Breakfast Club
Flight Of The Navigator
Never Ending Story
Gremlins
Karate Kid
Back To The Future
Labyrinth
:D
Ferris Buellers Day Off - Excellent
Breakfast Club - Excellent - (espeac Judd Nelson)
Flight Of The Navigator - Great (despite Willem Dafoes dodgey tash, Danny Glover character is brilliant)
Never Ending Story - Gruyere alert !!!!!
Gremlins - Never seen it :shock:
Karate Kid - Good
Back To The Future - Awsome
Labyrinth - Slight wiff of cheddar
in all the old plane movies the migs are never migs! i think in top gun they were f5 tigers!
havent read all the post on this so nudge me if i repeating what already said.
Well in 1986, Glasnost hadnt happened and the Russians weren't going to let Hollywood film their Migs so the producers had to have a bit of dramatic licence.
These days, they probably could get proper Migs involved.
But yes it has been mentioned by the aircraft boffs :wink: :lol:
DanDare
30-05-06, 03:06 PM
None of these are cheesy - Just quality 80s TV/film. Also
Ferris Buellers Day Off
Breakfast Club
Flight Of The Navigator
Never Ending Story
Gremlins
Karate Kid
Back To The Future
Labyrinth
:D
Ferris Buellers Day Off - Excellent
Breakfast Club - Excellent - (espeac Judd Nelson)
Flight Of The Navigator - Great (despite Willem Dafoes dodgey tash, Danny Glover character is brilliant)
* Your thinking of Flight of the Intruder*
Never Ending Story - Gruyere alert !!!!!
Gremlins - Never seen it :shock:
Karate Kid - Good
Back To The Future - Awsome
Labyrinth - Slight wiff of cheddar
socommk23
30-05-06, 03:07 PM
in all the old plane movies the migs are never migs! i think in top gun they were f5 tigers!
havent read all the post on this so nudge me if i repeating what already said.
Well in 1986, Glasnost hadnt happened and the Russians weren't going to let Hollywood film their Migs so the producers had to have a bit of dramatic licence.
These days, they probably could get proper Migs involved.
But yes it has been mentioned by the aircraft boffs :wink: :lol:
doh!!!
The Basket
30-05-06, 03:08 PM
Wall Street...THE 80's film.
Greed is good, you know.
I think my favourite all time cheesy film though has to be Iron Eagle! Class!
Iron Eagle... Wasn't that the one with the boy whos dad gets shot down and he steals an F16 (think, can't remember the film) and goes to rescue him?
PURE tosh, but still good :lol:
DanAbnormal
30-05-06, 03:15 PM
I think my favourite all time cheesy film though has to be Iron Eagle! Class!
Iron Eagle... Wasn't that the one with the boy whos dad gets shot down and he steals an F16 (think, can't remember the film) and goes to rescue him?
PURE tosh, but still good :lol:
That's the one. And Poirot was in it!
* Your thinking of Flight of the Intruder*
Ahh yes :oops:
Flight of the navigator was utter ****e ! :lol:
I think my favourite all time cheesy film though has to be Iron Eagle! Class!
Iron Eagle... Wasn't that the one with the boy whos dad gets shot down and he steals an F16 (think, can't remember the film) and goes to rescue him?
PURE tosh, but still good :lol:
And dont forget the rocking soundtrack. Any film that had Dio in it gets my vote...
and yes I have that soundtrack too :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :D
lukemillar
30-05-06, 03:18 PM
Labyrinth - Slight wiff of cheddar
Come on! David Bowie in Spandex, Jennifer Connelly - Schwing! More excitment than you could shake a stick at! Sing along classics!
:wink:
socommk23
30-05-06, 03:28 PM
I think my favourite all time cheesy film though has to be Iron Eagle! Class!
Iron Eagle... Wasn't that the one with the boy whos dad gets shot down and he steals an F16 (think, can't remember the film) and goes to rescue him?
PURE tosh, but still good :lol:
and loads of sequals to this too! all tosh and every one uses cut scenes from first one!
pure brie!
!
"Hey Stud! Take to me bed and love me forever!"
Hey Goose you big stud - take me to bed or lose me forever
:oops:
I knew that really, I was just testing you!! :oops: :wink:
I knew it was something like that, I just ad-libbed!
:D
!
"Hey Stud! Take to me bed and love me forever!"
Hey Goose you big stud - take me to bed or lose me forever
:oops:
I knew that really, I was just testing you!! :oops: :wink:
I knew it was something like that, I just ad-libbed!
:D
:lol: :lol: Sorry me and my other half watched it last weekend and i just remember the line
trickywoos
02-06-06, 09:21 PM
Just seen this thread! Think this film came out when I was about 7 or 8- but as it had planes in it (plane mad family) me and my brother were allowed to watch it! I think I must have watched it hundreds of times, we'd watch it every week, sometimes twice a week.
Yes I'm checking myself in to the hospital, don't worry!
Those were the days when I thought Tom Cruise was King, Kelly McGillis was queen, and when I REALLY wanted a pair of aviator glasses!!
Just seen this thread! Think this film came out when I was about 7 or 8- but as it had planes in it (plane mad family) me and my brother were allowed to watch it! I think I must have watched it hundreds of times, we'd watch it every week, sometimes twice a week.
Yes I'm checking myself in to the hospital, don't worry!
Those were the days when I thought Tom Cruise was King, Kelly McGillis was queen, and when I REALLY wanted a pair of aviator glasses!!Mirrored glasses cooool :lol:
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