Another Crash Vid...

[Demonz]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6196022306077640440&q=motorcycle

[Peter Henry]

Seen that a good few times but still amazes me. Did all 4 of them completely lose all they know about hazard avoidance as soon as the "Oh f*ck" flashed in to their heads?

That old baby of hazard fixation and some panic just wiped em all out.

Be careful out there boys and girls. 8)

[Stingo]

:shock: stuff on the road? Bit scary!! Bet that cost a few bob after the pain was sorted!

[northwind]

What actually happened there? Loose surface?

[Cronos]

What actually happened there? Loose surface?

Looks like a change in surface to a road that's being re-surfaced, but is currently all gravel!

[northwind]

That's what I thought. Serves 'em right for riding faster than they can see, frankly. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the horrendous overtakes till then.

[jenni]

That's what I thought. Serves 'em right for riding faster than they can see, frankly. I was giving them the benefit of the doubt on the horrendous overtakes till then.

ditto, i hate seeing people overtaking on blind bends, it makes me wince

[rpwoodman]

Good music tho

[Richie]

********.... Wouldn't wish that on anyone...

Hazzard Perceptions and avoidance remedial classes for all there.
As the big PH said, be carefull out there.

[rob13]

Think theres a sign on the approach warning of roadworks.

the amount of times i see bikers just flouting all road rules. Was out tonight on the approach road to squires from Sherburn which quite a lot of is now double whites a lot of the way. The amount of bikes overtaking on blind bends on double whites was embarassing. Its nothing to do with how much power you have or whether you can do it, its dangerous to not only yourself but to other road users as well.

[northwind]

I wouldn't wish it on them, but neither will I feel sorry for them. Could have been anything round that bend, luckily they only messed up their own bikes.

[Demonz]

yep - a truck in the other direction could've been a lot worse. Didnt see any signage though so couldve happened to anyone in the same situation!

[northwind]

Only if you're riding faster than your vision.

[argatxa]

ohhh. come on... going fast, from good tarmac to older one, the bend gets harder and on the exit supossed exit you find the the road works gravel... any braver forum member to say that could save that one?

I'd say that most of the people here go faster than their vision on a lot of bends, more when on known roads.... a little bit too fast and bad luck.

no so many blind corner ovetakings there... and you know it. :?

good reminder though

[Peter Henry]

argatxa...Good point you make but just look how the guy with the onboard camera reacted? It was almost like he braked and then simply panicced. Did they all react the same?

Was it the surface that saw them all career across the other side of the road or just poor riding? Any jerk can ride quick...I know I do it all of the time. :? But to have none or very little survival technique is very poor,no?

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Might have made it if he didnt use too much rear brake too.

[argatxa]

saw it again... if you hear the engine was starting to accelearate before the "oh f**k" moment. A case of going too hot and forgetting that a public road is an adventure on each corner? :?

I would do a nice straight, I'm sure... I saw the last two corners again and again and only hardly see the room for controlling it, but that's me... I'm sure in a few years I will just accelerate harder and go across sliding... :wink:


lucky nobody came from the other lane...

[Filipe M.]

argatxa...Good point you make but just look how the guy with the onboard camera reacted? It was almost like he braked and then simply panicced. Did they all react the same?

Was it the surface that saw them all career across the other side of the road or just poor riding? Any jerk can ride quick...I know I do it all of the time. :? But to have none or very little survival technique is very poor,no?

Not to mention the roadworks signs plastered all over the side of the road, I think I can spot 4 of them. Yep, the ones with the yellow background... :?

[argatxa]

ouch.. those!! :-dd :-dd :oops:

ahem... yeah, probably that is a good give away about the road conditions ... and you say they have different ones? :oops:

[Filipe M.]

ouch.. those!! :-dd :-dd :oops:

ahem... yeah, probably that is a good give away about the road conditions ... and you say they have different ones? :oops:

Yep, and they've also thrown in a speed limit sign, which I'd bet is a really low one... :wink:


edit: it's a permanent 50 km/h limit, not roadworks related but it should also be a clue as to what could be behind the corner (junctions, etc).

[Peter Henry]

Filipe edited:

edit: it's a permanent 50 km/h limit, not roadworks related but it should also be a clue as to what could be behind the corner (junctions, etc).


Yes that is 100% guarantee that something that needs negaotiating REAL carefully is up ahead. They use it here in Spain and I have found them always to be correct...no crying wolf...ignore them at your peril. :?

[northwind]

I'd say that most of the people here go faster than their vision on a lot of bends, more when on known roads.... a little bit too fast and bad luck.


I would totally have crashed... Though having said that, I'd not likely have been riding like that. But when things like that happen to me I chalk them up to experience, as they say to ride safely you should always assume there's a brick wall just round the corner.

[argatxa]

I agree with mr Northwind... unless you really know the corner and you did it 5 minutes before we should take them with ease..... public roads are not designed for going too hard (or at least kissing the limits and assuming that no deer is behind next corner).

[Peter Henry]

I agree with Northy to the larger degree but do feel the indicated method is hardly practicable. It would certainly keep one safe though that is for sure! :wink:

[northwind]

I agree with Northy to the larger degree but do feel the indicated method is hardly practicable. It would certainly keep one safe though that is for sure! :wink:

Yep, don't get me wrong, i don't do it either... I fall between the two, there, though I'm slower on unfamiliar roads. But if I do come round a blind bend and get caught out, I blame myself, no matter what stupid thing it is that catches me out.

[furkuk]

Crap riders, they totally ignored the advance warning signs for road works!

[philipMac]

Crap riders, they totally ignored the advance warning signs for road works!
I dunno. They werent crap. They were nice and smooth, most of the lines were ok. They scared the sheite out of me on one or two overtakes. I almost stopped the vid, thinking someones just going to get road killed onto the front of an SUV. Then I thought someone was going to bottle it half way through a corner.

And then the lose melted stuff. In terms of "ahh bollix" moments, thats up there.

They didnt see anything off the road, ie signs, since they were riding so tightly. They were dangerous. But, skillfull.


And, I would have probably binned it there. I might have binned it if I hit that at 50ks. That stuff looked like it was loose gravel on molten tar. (See all the steam?) About as much grip there as a slippery thing in a tub of swarfega.

[Demonz]

Looks like they were all having to much fun and seems they all went into that like sheep ignoring the signs and trusting the rider at the front. The first went in quick so they prob all assumed it was ok.

I did a U turn the other day to avoid a lot of resurfacing and the back end went then as the stones were over the old surface coming off the new bit. Loose metal = watch out.

[argatxa]

no flamewar? everybody agreeing?
:shock:

:wink:

[sharriso74]

no flamewar? everybody agreeing?
:shock:

:wink:

Make it a Sticky !!!!