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kwak zzr
09-06-06, 05:52 PM
anyone on here own there own house and as had sewer drains problems?
i'm having problems and the bills are not cheap :(

Razor
09-06-06, 05:57 PM
What kind of problems?
I can fix blockages andstuff like this myself unless the drains need to be replaced. Which will cost a fortune.

pingu
09-06-06, 06:02 PM
Must ..... stop .... myself..... can't ..... shouldn't ...... losing control...... must ask.....

Razor that a picture of you 'dressed up' on your avatar?

Doh couldn't stop myself, had to ask.

Peter Henry
09-06-06, 06:47 PM
Adopting a dietary routine with a tadge less roughage in it might go a long way to solving the problem! :wink:

HTH. :P

Stingo
09-06-06, 09:35 PM
Got my drains covered on the house insurance - get a blockage - call the insurance company, they send a drain unblocker bloke round, insurance pay the cost (in the region of 60 quid a time). This costs a small annual fee (tenner I think) no matter how many times I call them out.

Got one of them to put a camera up the pipe to see if there was a problem - couldn't see one. Part of getting our extension done included relaying some of the drainage, and one of the pipes had actually collapsed so you can't even count on the camera thingy.

Definetly worth calling your insurance co. about tho. Tres expensive to fix drains. Thought about building an extension? :lol: :lol:

Oh - you can buy the rodding out kits - they're quite cheap - they double as a chimney sweep's brush - bendy sticks etc -

HTH!

kwak zzr
09-06-06, 09:46 PM
this problem has been ongoing for about 6 years now, ive had a camera survey ive had them jetted but still they block up! i am now involving enviromental health who came out the other day and dye tested everyones water system to reveal 12 houses all running into my driveway then the the main sewer :( they are now all blocked again and severn trent water are coming out tomorrow to see if its my problem or theres(i bet its mine and i'll need a remortgage to pay the bill)
in the past ive rodded the drains myself and it does clear but not for long :( i just want it fixed for good! :(

Stingo
09-06-06, 09:52 PM
Hmm - you should only be responsible for your drain up to where it joins the main run - the pipe that all the other houses run into. Sounds a bit like there's something wrong on the council owned bit. Are you at the bottom of a hill and the main runs adjacent to your property?

BILLY
09-06-06, 09:52 PM
12 houses into 1 manhole seems alot how old is you house if its less than 10 years old you could sue the builder because the are building regs for drainage and it limits shared drainage!!!!!!! I'm a Builder by the way.

kwak zzr
09-06-06, 09:58 PM
house was built in the 1950's and the sewer pipe runs the back of all the houses to the right and the left and they all drain into the communal sewer in my driveway!
you are right tho all the houses that drain into this sewer are liable but the water board have said i will get the bill and its up to me to recover 1/12 from every house owner in my street :(

Stingo
09-06-06, 10:01 PM
So are they saying that you 'own' the drain then? Sounds a bit harsh. Don't you get some sort of deduction on your council tax/water rates for that inconvenience?

kwak zzr
09-06-06, 10:02 PM
the sewer pipework under the ground within the boundry of your property belongs to you :( when it pass's under the pavement it belongs to the water board, this is what they are coming to find out tomorrow.

kwak zzr
09-06-06, 10:03 PM
seven trent water charge £300 per meter of pipework they dig up and replace :(

kwak zzr
09-06-06, 10:04 PM
my front garden would mean a £3000 bill :( if thats the worst case its goodbye sv.

Stingo
09-06-06, 10:11 PM
Perhaps there's a 'grey' area - I always assumed that you owned everything upto the main unless your pipe goes off your property...if see what I mean. Theoretically, the main could curve around onto (under really) someones land and continue on - would this mean that that you'd be responsible for that part of the main? That stinks mate!! Pun intended! :lol: It does though, doesn't it? Like everyone else is gonna come across the money to help a fix a common problem that is on someone elses land - bizarre. The ideal would of course be that the water co. split the bill and send it to each house thereby delegating sensibly who pays what. :roll: I guess that makes sense tho'....

Stingo
09-06-06, 10:13 PM
So if a main runs between two houses - do both those properties get billed 50/50? The main should belong to the council/water company.

Quiff Wichard
09-06-06, 11:19 PM
dam -

I own a sewer and have had problems with a house...


so sooo close

kwak zzr
10-06-06, 08:32 AM
So if a main runs between two houses - do both those properties get billed 50/50? The main should belong to the council/water company.

the council will take responsibility but they will then bill you if you are a private tenant, council tenants get it for free. as soon as its under your garden its your problem and no one like to deal with it.

kwak zzr
10-06-06, 08:33 AM
severn trent water came out this morning and guess what? the sewer was clear :roll: i think ive got an on going problem and its not going to go away :?

Stingo
10-06-06, 03:45 PM
Oh...gloom......and poo!



Even my missus knew that if the main is in your property then you are liable....I never knew that!! :shock:

*goes to shed for geophys equipment*

Ed
10-06-06, 05:32 PM
Severn Trent own the public sewers. You can ask them for a plan of the foul and surface sewers. But the pipes that connect are generally private and as you say you then have to get everyone else to contribute. This can be difficult. You should check the title deeds to see if you have the benefit of payment covenants from other adjacent owners. You know from the dye tests that they drain through your pipes, so if you have got the benefit of payment covenants then you'd have a good case. But extracting money from neighbours ain't easy.

Some houses have adopted sewers in their gardens. It's never desirable really cos you can't then extend the house. And Severn Trent or whoever can come & dig up the garden without notice.

Start point is get a copy of the sewer plans from ST. They charge £42.77 for a full search but they might reduce the fee for just a print of a plan. Drop me a PM if you'd like more info on all this.

Ed

kwak zzr
10-06-06, 06:38 PM
thanks for the advise Ed, you have PM.
Darren.