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northwind
13-06-06, 12:39 PM
Out of curiosity, I just went back over the last 3 pages of IB. Of those 60 topics, only 3 were heavy political types, and one of those was a reaction to the first. The thirds was a reaction to the second :wink: To hear some speak, this site's become nothing but a political talking shop with no bike involvement... But I can't remember the on-topic forums being more succesful than they are now.
Does anyone seriously think this site's overrun with political threads? If you do, take a look for yourself... There's more UK politics ones, but once you remove the biking-related ones, there's relatively few and most are "This isn't justice/world gone mad", which have always been a feature of the site.
Just my opinion, obviously... Just seems like things are being blown out of proportion.
akbarhussain
13-06-06, 12:43 PM
True sentiments Northwind.
Funny how the people that are complaining are also the ones that tried to get involved in the very same discussions but were found to be helplessly out of their depth. So now have run off crying that they want their ball back.
I just don't read the politics / religion / IT related ones. They hold no interest to me and I am not here to hear that type of thing. Simple as.
I was just thinking the exact same thing.
Stray beyond the first five posts in idle banter (For non SV and bike related chat) and its a cracking forum.
I did post what I thought was rather a good post in one of the political threads but it got ignored as usual :sulk: :wink:
Sid Squid
13-06-06, 12:50 PM
I did post what I thought was rather a good post in one of the political threads but it got ignored as usual :sulk: :wink:
No it didn't - we have smaller fish to fry right now.
I think people think that the political threads take over simply because of the amount of responses they get on the highly emotive subjects people are discussing. It's easily forgotten that there are only a few of those sorts of threads up at any one time because of the amount of volume posting in each one.!!!
The political threads hold interest for some people - some people like to discuss politics on a 'general' section of a motorbike forum - others do not.
I for one chose not to get too involved, but find them interesting to read at times. Personally I believe it is certain users (Jelster, Sid Squid et al) that are ruining them, not so much the main accused parties.
And indeed we must laugh with them.
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I did post what I thought was rather a good post in one of the political threads but it got ignored as usual :sulk: :wink:
No it didn't - we have smaller fish to fry right now.
:lol:
Peter Henry
13-06-06, 12:55 PM
Well as that rather terse chappie Chief pointed out to me yesterday, I have no place passing any comment on a thread that is dedicated to any political, war or terrorist type matters. I think he is of the opinion that I talk nothing but Shi'ite! :P
Hammas dissapointed as the next person but maybe I need to mullah over a thing or two before ever commenting in future. :?
akbarhussain
13-06-06, 12:57 PM
I did post what I thought was rather a good post in one of the political threads but it got ignored as usual :sulk: :wink:
No it didn't - we have smaller fish to fry right now.
:lol:
lol, i';m afraid it did get ignored Tricky. Your post if I remember correctly, started to ask the same kind of questions that I too have asked here; people don't seem able to answer these kind of questions, hence it got ignored.
one political thread is too many in my humble opinion.
but i've no problem with them, as i rarely bother reading them as often they are beyond my limited intelligence :?
Sid Squid
13-06-06, 12:58 PM
Laughing with you Akbar, laughing with you.
PH - I never pointed out anything remotely similar to what you have accused me of, just pointed out where you were wrong (which you obviously didn't take kindly to) thus you are speaking total Shi'ite :oops:
I think this makes 4 now :wink: :D
Edit - I'm off to Tuning and tweaking now to talk about sprockets :D
My opinion is that the most attention is being given to these political topics.. all you have to do is look at the amount of pages each one goes to and from what I've read it's just people arguing.
It's bringing my mood down and right now I don't need that.
As soon as one appears to die another takes it's place and for the most part they're all about the war in iraq/terrorism and the results. Somone posts another thread of how it's getting tedious and abracadabra, there's a retort along the same argumentative vein.
I'm not saying these shouldn't be there I'm simply stating I'm BORED with it. I'm tired of seeing political posts hold the top slots.
So go on, rip me and my opinion to shreds. It seems to be the tone on the site lately.
Peter Henry
13-06-06, 01:11 PM
Chief...Based on the premise that I consider you a person of some intelligence.
However you insist on me correcting "my error" Ok, though not directly connected perhaps, events in the likes of Afghanistan and Iraq and potential terrorist attacks in England do have some kind of common thread as far as the authorities are concerned?
It is the same kind of thinking that sees mob law on the streets of towns and cities of England when people seek retribution from other perfectly law abiding people from ethnic backgrounds.
There have also been as many people brain washed by crazed teachings in mosques and in secret meetings, as there have been others polluted by government spin and nonsense produced by the popular press.
Or is my error by using the term "middle east"? It really matters little and as I have already mentioned there are enough intelligent contributors on this forum that would have pointed out my error if they themselves felt that my initial comment was so far off the mark.
At the end of the day the comments I have made are my personal opinions and so how can you or anyone suggest I am wrong? :?
I tend to ignore these threads / avoid responding (for the majority of the time) because I am too busy at work, working.
To assume that these threads are ignored because individuals are unable to construct decent responses is a bit of a logical leap methinks!
Anonymous
13-06-06, 01:22 PM
It's the contribution of certain people across a broad range of topics - people like Sid Squid, Jelster, Biggles, Peter Henry, Cloggsy, Rictus, Northwind, Scoobs, TimWilky, RichieNumbers etc, to name but 10 - that attracts a large number of people (particularly young impressionable ones) to the site. These people "join" primarily because they are interested in motorcycling, and the "grandee" contributors have all in some way benefitted them with encouragement or technical advice. They have therefore earned the right to sound off in what ever way they see fit.
But unfortunately, the success of the site brings along other types of people; people who, seeing the rising numbers, regard it as a fertile ground for subverting minds to their own biased political agenda. You can spot them: they cover their tracks by the occasional post on something anodyne - eg "your favourite BBQ recipe" - but they only ever really post on one topic. All they desire is a big audience of malleable minds and when they have raped the site - ie, all the good people have left - they move on. They are the Cyber equivalent of Bottom-trawlers: they fish, they destroy, they leave, they don't care.
I personally can't stand the idea that anything I do might help in some way to increase the audience for these Trolls to work on. This is my last post on sv650.org.
Goodbye.
IM not going to comment whats happening on here as i've not been involved....
But..
I will say.
From using the internet for a good 10 years now, having used many many forums in the last 6-7 years, un-fortunately, they ALWAYS decay into a worse site from when they started.
A Corsa site i used, it used to be full of mature people, really interested in cars, we all used to be really close friends, no bitching etc..
Then those people started to move on and the chavvy boyracer over opinionated types came on. Now its totally ruined, i don't use it anymore and its very rare something interesting comes up. Full of bitchers, moaners, whingers. You can't say anything opinionated without someone having a pop at you simply for having an opinion. If you don't agree with teh "cool" group, you get slated....
And the same can be said for a lot of the other sites i use. Not sure if its just the younger un-educated lot coming through, but over the last few years, every site i've used has got much worse.
I think its just the way things are going.
The ONLY way to cut it out is firmer and harsher administration. But that then of course gets peoples backs up and then these people whinge, so you can't win.
Ban the haters and whingers, its the only way.
Carsick
13-06-06, 01:30 PM
One of the more unusual reasons for a flounce gesture.
Peter Henry
13-06-06, 01:31 PM
This is developing in to a rather sad phase for the good ship SV.Org in my humble opinion. :?
PH - I thought that you made it clear yesterday that it was end of discussion - so why reference it today? I am happy with it being left that way - I could clearly explain my statement yesterday but it fell on deaf ears, so do not wish to continue.
PH Wrote:
Chief...Based on the premise that I consider you a person of some intelligence.
well maybe thats your downfall :wink:
Spiderman
13-06-06, 01:33 PM
.... All they desire is a big audience of malleable minds
I noticed you said this about users of this site before and i genuinely am suprised you think that type of person is registered on this site.
Most of the peeps on here seem to have an opinion of their own on almost any random topic thats been posted, from best routes to x or y, or advice about the colour of someones after market add ons.
It'd be as shame for you to leave just beacuse some peeps choose to discuss certain topics. I'm not into rock music and the number of "Best rock album" or "best rock track" posts just get ignored by me. Those who wanna discuss it can but as its of no intrest to me i ignore it.
I really do wish some of you guys who are getting so wound up by some of the recent "political" topics would just ignore them if they are no intrest and just Moderate them if you have to without actually taking any of it in. Obviously not having ever been a mod of any forum myself i can understand that what i've just said may well be easier said (typed) than done but i just dont want to loose any of the good contributors o this site ...or to have to dicuss on what the moderators want us to discuss.
I'm sure that if some mods had their way there would be nothing but bikes and the occasional topic that a mod thought was "acceptable".
Cant we all juts get on? :grouphug:
akbarhussain
13-06-06, 01:34 PM
Maybe a ban on political discussion would help?
Warthog
13-06-06, 01:36 PM
I hadn't noticed anything! Then again, I usually don't read the big argument threads. Can I just say hat everyone here seems nice, so don't all just leave, I need my advice, and the intelligent* conversation!
:)
* Warning: conversation may not be intelligent
This is my last post on sv650.org.
Goodbye.
Ah......the "nose and face" option........ :roll:
No need to go El Boc. Trolls will move on when they've had their say and peeps begin to ignore 'em.
I'm with Ping on this one. Sums up my view entirely.
And I still don't believe that the Troll in question is a real person :lol:
Maybe a ban on political discussion would help?
Would you abide by such a ban?
I have used this site for over 6 years, and have seen it grow into a community with a diverse mixture of people and views.
For the most, it is a great place to use.
Sometimes however it really ****es me off with the way that it has changed. Some people seem to think that they can join the site and then start winding everyone up without having gained the respect of others (anyone else remember 'Jimmy Jam'?
There are some that contribute a hell of a lot to this BIKING community, providing great advice, intelligent opinions and the occasional bit of humour - often without any thanks.
These people are not 'elitist', to me they are highly valued and I think that this community will be a lot worse without them. I am here because (on the whole) I like the people and the discussion that take place, not because I think I (or anyone else) has a right to be here or because I want to use this site to express my views on subjects that are not related to biking or may antagonise others.
This is a biking forum, and not a mass debating society.
akbarhussain
13-06-06, 01:41 PM
Maybe a ban on political discussion would help?
Would you abide by such a ban?
Yes, ofcourse. I have abided by all forums rules so far, that I am aware of.
akbarhussain
13-06-06, 01:41 PM
This is a biking forum, and not a mass debating society.
lol
Maybe a ban on political discussion would help?
Maybe peeps just getting a grip on reality would help. Some people need to get over themselves and realize that this is an internet forum.
But if it means deleting user accounts in order to keep the status quo and preserve the site for the good of the many, then the management will indeed do this, though to be frank it's not a measure they wish to take, and indeed would not take lightly.
Take a big deep breath folks, life is too complex in our every day lives, let's not bring it on here too.
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akbarhussain
13-06-06, 01:44 PM
Maybe a ban on political discussion would help?
Maybe peeps just getting a grip on reality would help. Some people need to get over themselves and realize that this is an internet forum.
.
I agree, this is needed.
Warthog
13-06-06, 01:44 PM
This is a biking forum, and not a mass debating society.
hahahaha :lol:
DanDare
13-06-06, 01:49 PM
Maybe a ban on political discussion would help?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
PMSL
From someone who started and instigated such discussions.
I haven't got involved in any of these discussions as my opinions are my own and I respect everyone elses even if I don't agree with them. Being told that your opinion is wrong is well....... just plain wrong in itself.
Banning discussion IMO isn't the answer.
Everyone needs to take a chill pill and remember why we all here in the first place,
our common love of bikes. :nomore:
Peter Henry
13-06-06, 02:04 PM
Some folks do need to chill a little, may I suggest a little visit to this?
http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=39770 :wink:
It's the contribution of certain people across a broad range of topics - people like Sid Squid, Jelster, Biggles, Peter Henry, Cloggsy, Rictus, Northwind, Scoobs, TimWilky, RichieNumbers etc, to name but 10 - that attracts a large number of people (particularly young impressionable ones) to the site.
I can't believe I've been tarred with THAT brush. I thought I was just here to look pretty and attract the ladies.
I am, however, truly flattered.
You see i think you all smell and can't ride bikes for toffee. Im going to throw popcorn at you as you go past.
Plus you all bath in wee?
Or i could be taking the complete michael to chill out the discussion?
sharriso74
13-06-06, 02:18 PM
Sod politics my flying leason has been cancelled because of thunderstorms BAH
Sod politics my flying leason has been cancelled because of thunderstorms BAH
Oh :( .. have you re- booked them for another time?? ... where are you doing them from?
sharriso74
13-06-06, 02:26 PM
Doing them from Biggin Hill going to phone a bit later to see if the storms have moved. Depends if the instructor wants to go up, the guy who teaches me is pretty good ex commercial instructor we went up while the other instructors thought it was too windy. Took a lot of concetration (I was knackered by the end) but think learning in tricky conditions will only make me better. Bit like riding in the wet makes (IMHO) a smoother rider so you benefit in the dry.
Fingers crossed and if everyone could lean out of their windows and blow towards Biggin Hill the clouds might b*gger off
This is my last post on sv650.org.
Goodbye.
M8 just read this :cry: , WTF :evil: , we'll talk and have a pint or two on Friday :wink:
Quiff Wichard
13-06-06, 07:43 PM
I just look at pictures ! :wink:
Biker Biggles
13-06-06, 08:13 PM
I see we are going to have to re-incarnate the "Bring back Bocca" campaign.
I propose a shandy drinker's conspiracy whereby all us lily livered southern lightweights invade Leicester and level it.I'm sure El Boc would support that.Careful not to damage Mallory Park though.
Come on you daft old fart :shock: or we send PH round to initiate you into natureism. :idea: :twisted:
Spiderman
13-06-06, 08:53 PM
Come on you daft old f*rt :shock: or we send PH round to initiate you into natureism. :idea: :twisted:
:lol: :lol:
In reply to the thread's title, my perspective is always going to be just a little a bit wonky - it comes being only five foot four and yet often thinking that you're five foot nine! :roll:
sharriso74
14-06-06, 08:43 AM
The world always looks better through the bottom of a pint glass
Balky001
14-06-06, 12:07 PM
Yep Northy, I think things are blown out of perspective.
I never read the really techy IT threads as they are no interest to me - I think if people find the odd thread frustrating then they should police themselves and not expect admin to do it.
I think the moderators run this site well. When they banned a member recently I worried that this may set a precedent and voiced my concern (it's always easy to repeat something once its been done) - but I was impressed in they way most of the mods reacted and felt reassured this site still always a place to debate freely - albeit the good of the forum should be paramount and action may need to be taken occassionally.
Political threads get heated because people have diverse opinions and are interested in putting theirs forward. I don't think we shouldn't ban opinions even if some find the topic unsavoury. It's important that they don't turn in to slanging matched or pure vitriol and this is our responsibility to each other. We should consider out posts before goofing off - diplomacy goes a long way.
Scooby Drew
14-06-06, 12:48 PM
I think we need a naughty room:
If you do something that meets with the dissaproval of the moderators of this site you will be changed from a site member to "Naughty" for a pre-determined amount of time.
If you are "Naughty" you will ONLY see the Naughty Room when you log into the site. All other site members can come or go in the naughty room as they wish (however this may change if non-naughty people post too much drivel).
Where I found this, it has been very effective in cutting the combative nonsense that goes on. You of course need a sense of humour for this, from the populace of the site as well as the mods. It was introduced on a forum that was nearly closed down due the petty infighting: the mods were getting phone calls at home about stuff FFS, and resigned en masse. Personally, I am saddened by the amount of abuse/trolling that has been going on here: although I don't post a lot, this is a great place to be a member of and have made some good friends here. At the moment am setting a precedent with my boss for the amount of work that I can do :wink: cos I am staying away :( Which is bad :lol: He'll be expecting me to be productive all of the time soon :lol: :lol:
northwind
14-06-06, 01:09 PM
Was chatting to Mr Squid about this last night... Honestly, I reckon the problem is the responses. You can call people trolls all you like, when the abuse starts flying it's never Akbar that starts it. Look at the new thread he just started. Half the forum could have posted that, it's a funny picture. It took 5 posts before someone called him a nob. I'm sure in a lot of people's eyes that's all Akbar's fault :roll: Even though it's the same people consistently breakling forum rules that are actually making it bad.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 01:13 PM
As I said on the thread itself Northwind, the usual suspects.
I also did a bit of reading back on some of the threads involving GYKD (as I had no idea what or who GYKD was when refferred to in recent posts). Funnily enough, seems to be the same aggravators stuck in there too.... seems that there are some collectives on the forum that don't like their opinion to be challenged.
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 01:16 PM
GYKD was a consistent forum rule breaker. He was given a multitude of chances to alter his behaviour, He didnt or wouldnt change his behaviour so it was acecptable to the forum admin team so he got banned.
Alot of the threads he did this in got edited or deleted so they dont exist anymore to refer to.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 01:21 PM
Interesting, thanks Fizz.
But it did seem to be the usual group aggravators that were getting stuck into him...... what would your opinion be of a group like this if, for example, GYKD had not broken any forum rules?
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 01:27 PM
Akbar, Just exactly what are you getting at ?
northwind
14-06-06, 01:28 PM
Funnily enough, seems to be the same aggravators stuck in there too.... seems that there are some collectives on the forum that don't like their opinion to be challenged.
Side note: GYKD was an utter, utter prat sometimes. I doubt anyone would deny he brought it on himself. My beef with his situation was that the people who helped make it as bad as it was were also breaking forum rules, and never seemed to accept any responsibility for the damage they were doing to the forum. I think most of the GYKD Usual Suspects would be shocked at the idea that they were acusing problems themselves, after all it was all his fault. Must have been, he got banned.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 01:33 PM
Akbar, Just exactly what are you getting at ?
Well, there does seem to be a group of forum users that are always involved in confrontation; i'm sure you don't need me to mention them by name.
They were there in the case of GYKD - you kindly informed me that GYKD was a regular at breaking the forums rules, which I suppose in some way, excuses the behaviour of the said group involved.
I'm not getting at anything; apart from the question I asked originally - what would be your opinion of such a group of confrontational users if they were picking on, for example, a user that had broken no forum rules?
Flamin_Squirrel
14-06-06, 01:33 PM
Akbar, Just exactly what are you getting at ?
He's attempting to undermind all the forum members who've disagreed with him by trying to play the victim.
Although I think his avatar probably hasnt helped. Speaking of which, and bearing in mind Steve and I arent exactly best mates, I think the use of that avatar is out of order.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 01:35 PM
I think most of the GYKD Usual Suspects would be shocked at the idea that they were causing problems themselves, after all it was all his fault. Must have been, he got banned.
I suspect you're right northwind... some people just have their head too far up there own jacksy (or someone elses) to notice these things.
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 01:37 PM
I'm not getting at anything; apart from the question I asked originally - what would be your opinion of such a group of confrontational users if they were picking on, for example, a user that had broken no forum rules?
It depends on the circumstances and the particular issue involved. Some situations require stronger or more forceful moderation than others.
I dont want to prejudice my future actions by posting a specific reponse to your question.
However I will say that normally theres no smoke without fire, most people on here are level headed and wont start "picking on"* a forum member unless they feel that forum member is out of order or that they feel like that forum member has broken forum rules.
*your words not mine
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 01:41 PM
It depends on the circumstances and the particular issue involved. Some situations require stronger or more forceful moderation than others.
I dont want to prejudice my future actions by posting a specific reponse to your question.
However I will say that normally theres no smoke without fire, most people on here are level headed and wont start picking on a forum member unless they feel that forum member is out of order or that they feel like that forum member has broken forum rules.
Thanks for the reply Fizz.
But in my case, people simply started picking on me becasue they either didn't like the subject material or didn't like my standing on the subject, but were unable to argue their own point.
Seriously, if anyone can find any post I have made that breaks forum rules, or anywhere that I attack anybody else without first being attacked, then I would be very happy to see these.
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 01:51 PM
But in my case, people simply started picking on me becasue they either didn't like the subject material or didn't like my standing on the subject, but were unable to argue their own point.
Seriously, if anyone can find any post I have made that breaks forum rules, or anywhere that I attack anybody else without first being attacked, then I would be very happy to see these.
People are entitled to express an opinion, as are you entitled to reply. Responding in kind, just drags you down to their level. Ignore it, Rise above it. Like I said yesterday if you can't take it back don't dish it out.
Now I dont care either way what you guys talk about as long as it stays within the boundaries of being U rated. However you should remember this is a bike website and this section is idle banter meaning IMHO lightweight chit chat / banter. Not heavyweight political debate. Some people just wanna ride their bikes and natter with their mates.
Yes those people could ignore certain threads, however some of us seem to have a mild form of posting tourettes which means that they are unable to ignore threads and have a compulsion to open and comment on every single thing that goes on *
*not a personal attack aimed at anybody just a general observation.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 01:55 PM
lol @ posting-tourettes :lol:
Thanks for the advice Fizz.
northwind
14-06-06, 02:01 PM
(edit)
Unhelpful post, sorry folks.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 02:08 PM
Edited to remove quote-
Honestly northwind, i'm not suggesting that I am blameless. But I have found it quite surprising the amount of people that seem to have summarised on the content of my posts (not their thoughts on me) by what is written by others.
Seems the usual suspects carry some influence around here.
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 02:12 PM
Edited-
Honestly northwind, i'm not suggesting that I am blameless. But I have found it quite surprising the amount of people that seem to have summarised on the content of my posts (not their thoughts on me) by what is written by others.
Seems the usual suspects carry some influence around here.
Yes but that happens in real life to, not just an internet forum.
IIRC that within the first 10 seconds of a real face to face meeting most people have made up their mind as to what their opinion of the person they have just met are.
(edit)
Unhelpful post, sorry folks.
Au contrair (sp).
I read it before the edit and I thought that it was very balanced as I might add a lot of your posts appear to be.
Judging by akbar's response, I think he thought so to.
akbarhussain
14-06-06, 02:14 PM
(edit)
Unhelpful post, sorry folks.
Au contrair (sp).
I read it before the edit and I thought that it was very balanced as I might add a lot of your posts appear to be.
Judging by akbar's response, I think he thought so to.
I agree with the first part, and I did to the second part :wink:
I agree with the first part, and I did to the second part :wink:
It's right there folks! Akbar has AGREED to something! :wink:
Flamin_Squirrel
14-06-06, 02:22 PM
Passes Swiss coffee
Balky001
14-06-06, 02:23 PM
Akbar, if you're suggesting you're blameless, I'd disagree. I think people overreact, but I don't deny that they're reacting.
Honestly northwind, i'm not suggesting anything of the kind. But I have found it quite surprising the amount of people that seem to have summarised on the content of my posts (not their thoughts on me) by what is written by others.
Seems the usual suspects carry some influence around here.
I'm pretty sure you are correct. But then if I was unknown and walked in to a group of friends and started a controversial or political debate I'm sure they would side on certain contentious issues or at least we wary of me - and I'd expect that.
Why wouldn't you be wary or someone you hardly know or had little contact with debating such topics with such well formed and strong opinions - you'd think they may have an agenda or maybe just an arrogant extrovert (or maybe just a strong personality :) ) - people don't always feel comfortable around that. Not saying that's right or wrong, just the way people are in general.
It's different when you know or are familiar with someone. I'm surprised you are this naive - in fact I don't believe you are. This forum welcomes everyone but the reception largely depends on your approach. If you are perceived as argumentative and opinionated in your first few posts then generally human nature is to react in kind. Of course, I might be wrong but looking at your posts and their reception, I might be right too. Gently does it.
Thanks Squirrel, wouldn't want to miss any of these right riviting read.
Flamin_Squirrel
14-06-06, 02:31 PM
One detects sarcasm. Would sir prefer decaff?
Balky001
14-06-06, 02:34 PM
One detects sarcasm. Would sir prefer decaff?
slip him a redbull
Biker Biggles
14-06-06, 02:35 PM
Keep it clean chaps---U rating and all that :wink:
Or perhaps a Red Bull'et'
Balky001
14-06-06, 02:42 PM
Or perhaps a Red Bull'et'
Red Bull et Coke? You speaking French Swiss?
Biker Biggles
14-06-06, 02:42 PM
Slip him something,but get a room first. :lol:
Twas a play on words for me topping myself, not that I have any intention of doing so. You do however raise a good point, I'm going to France on the bike in a couple of weeks WooooooooHOOOOOoooooo.
Although I am managing to contain my excitement
Flamin_Squirrel
14-06-06, 02:46 PM
Twas a play on words for me topping myself, not that I have any intention of doing so. You do however raise a good point, I'm going to France on the bike in a couple of weeks WooooooooHOOOOOoooooo.
Although I am managing to contain my excitement
As you should. You're only going to break down :wink:
Warthog
14-06-06, 02:59 PM
Hmmm Ahkbar is totally right about the usual subjects. I haven't seen him says anything wrong or that breaks forum rules, just his opinion, and whats more, that picture was funnier than a lot of the other silly videos floating around here. So what is with the attacking him?! Seems like more people should be banned, cos they broke more rules that GYKD did...
Still its all quite plainly obvious that he is PH, just a shame that his little test seems to have some unpleasant results... :P :?
Balky001
14-06-06, 03:04 PM
Still its all quite plainly obvious that he is PH, just a shame that his little test seems to have some unpleasant results... :P :?
I thought that was Guy Owen???
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 03:18 PM
Still its all quite plainly obvious that he is PH, just a shame that his little test seems to have some unpleasant results... :P :?
I thought that was Guy Owen???
Nope and Nope.
Akar is not PH. I dont follow your train of thought as to why you think he might be.
Guy Owen wasnt anybody from the forum either.
Remember as Moderators we have access to information that you guys dont.
I'm getting a little tired of all of this. All it does it feed the fire and cause more bad feeling and I wish that everybody would just pack it in. This is the 2nd thread in as many days where accusations are being made about who various forum members are pretending to be and its getting on my nerves.
Fizz
Balky001
14-06-06, 03:25 PM
Still its all quite plainly obvious that he is PH, just a shame that his little test seems to have some unpleasant results... :P :?
I thought that was Guy Owen???
Nope and Nope.
Akar is not PH. I dont follow your train of thought as to why you think he might be.
Guy Owen wasnt anybody from the forum either.
Remember as Moderators we have access to information that you guys dont.
I'm getting a little tired of all of this. All it does it feed the fire and cause more bad feeling and I wish that everybody would just pack it in. This is the 2nd thread in as many days where accusations are being made about who various forum members are pretending to be and its getting on my nerves.
Fizz
Only a joke Fizz - didn't see yesterday's thread but you'll get undercarriage burn if you keep twisting those panties! Didn't know it was so controversial - can't be expected to read every other post before making a comment :? I don't know, I feel such a victim now :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 03:29 PM
Only a joke Fizz - didn't see yesterday's thread but you'll get undercarriage burn if you keep twisting those panties! Didn't know it was so controversial - can't be expected to read every other post before making a comment :? I don't know, I feel such a victim now :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
:oops: I must admit I do feel some chaffage coming on. Going to get me some soothing ointment me thinks. :D
Balky001
14-06-06, 03:33 PM
:oops: I must admit I do feel some chaffage coming on. Going to get me some soothing ointment me thinks. :D
Hey, as my wife would say, you're just to damn quick :wink: :lol:
northwind
14-06-06, 04:07 PM
OK Fizz, you were right, shouldn't have edited that post :oops: I was trying to get my own tourettes under control.
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