switch to disable headlights on always on SVS models

[martin_SV]

Anyone fitted a headlight overide switch to the newer always on models?
I have a K3 svs and wonder if anyone's found a conveniently placed wire that feeds both headlights which can then have a switch inserted. ( NB In case you're wondering on my previous model with a light switch I did have the hlights nearly always on but I just like to hyave the choice ) :D

[Robw#70]

On earlier Gsxr's some imports had lights on all the time, wheras the uk ones were switched.
Suzuki only changed the switchgear with all the wiring staying the same in the plugs so it was just a case of plugging in a new switch in.

Might be worth looking at other models to see if its possible :idea:

[sv650s_guy]

you are not legally aloud to anymore as eu say all new bikes have to have lights on all the time

[Sid Squid]

I don't think that would work on then Pointy SV, it was designed and constructed as lights on, thus the wiring doesn't have the necessary plugs for alternative switchgear with a switch.

If you want to switch the lights you'll need to break and switch the orange wire in the left hand switchgear, (it's internal), but after the branch for the headlamp flasher or that'll be disabled when the lights are switched off too, you'll need to use a two pole switch and switch the brown wire from the ignition switch that supplies the rear light and the front position lights as well, this cable also supplies those two for the parking light function - if the switch is off the parking lights won't work - and the live auxiliary terminal too, if the switch is off that won't be live.

[kwak zzr]

you are not legally aloud to anymore as eu say all new bikes have to have lights on all the time

this is what my dealer told me.

[Lissa]

you are not legally aloud to anymore as eu say all new bikes have to have lights on all the time

Another stupid piece of EU legislation. Thank God we've got a curvy and can CHOOSE when our lights are necessary!

[The Basket]

Don't see lights-on as problem.

Makes you more visible. No bad thing that.

[Sid Squid]

I'm not certain that's - as yet anyway - correct.

We now get bikes that are as similar as possible for manufacturing reasons - and the makers are anticipating impending legislation, but as far as I'm aware our legislation doesn't as yet require daytime lights to be used or fitted.

Not 100% about this though, so I reserve my democratic right to be as wrong as I usually am.

[Stu]

Can this really be worth it?
I'm with the Basket on this.

[Villers]

Don't see lights-on as problem.

Makes you more visible. No bad thing that.

True and I would normally agree. I work on a licenced site of a certain variety that is a national security issue, with a certain material that is very sensitive. As part of my going to work routine I have to enter through a gate with armed guards and show a pass that belongs to the government. At the gate (especially in winter) there is a big sign that says 'please turn off your headlights' and if you are forgetful enough you get a right bollocking and the poor copper gets blinded. How do I take my bike to work in winter, and everytime the poor sod is trying to get the yellow blobs out of his eyes, and apologise for my lights being on all the time. 'Sorry mate its EU legislation'. Im guessing eventually I will have a black stripe on my pass that means I cant come onto site in a vehicle.

:?

[Sid Squid]

Don't see lights-on as problem.

Makes you more visible. No bad thing that.
Really? The evidence is far from certain - and I can think of circumstances where no lights would be better - few of them - but they do exist.

Can this really be worth it?
I'm with the Basket on this.
Possibly - but not the question that was asked is it?

[The Basket]

Only speaking from my own experience.

When driving, I can see a motorcycle further away with it's lights on than off in daylight. The small narrow shape of a motorcycle can be lost in the background of other vehicles.

Also the eye is drawn to a moving light.

The only drawback is the idea that some stupid cage driver thought you were flashing him to let him out but you hit a bump in the road. Rocking the bike.

I would put my lights on even if they weren't hard wired. The only other reason is if the lights were draining the battery...

[Peter Henry]

Got to say that since getting used to the idea, I do prefer to have lights on. Even over here where often with bright sunlight one would question if they do actually add to your visibillity. 8)

[Graham]

They brought this law out in Australia many years ago but it was found that at dawn and dusk it was harder to see a bike with headlights on. So they recinded the law about 10 years ago, Funny thing is that Suzuki never stopped making them with headlights on. My curvy has headlights on all the time and it ****s me but couldn't be bothered changing it.

[creamerybutter]

They brought this law out in Australia many years ago but it was found that at dawn and dusk it was harder to see a bike with headlights on.

Aye thats what I heard, with the sun low behind you having your headlight on makes you blend in with the sun as it were. I have gotten used to lights always on but I would be nice to have the choice especially when there are occasions when they are better of, should be down to the judgment of the rider imo.

[The Basket]

So if you are in the sun they cannot see you?

Baron von Richthofen knew that 90 years ago. 8)

[creamerybutter]

Well thats ok then...

[Jelster]

Sorry , bit off topic....

But, the other day whilst in the cage, I came close to pulling out on a bike. Scary thought from a biker I know....

Silver Fazer (old style) no lights on, rider with a grey jacket and silver lid. Where the bike was a bit dirty it was more grey than silver. This was against a dull grey skyline and the bike was in front of a silver/grey transit.

I started to go, decided to look again because something said "check", and it was lucky I did. Couldn't see him against the background. Feels funny almost being on the other side of a SMIDSY :?

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[thor]

I'd like to be able to turn off the lights, but only when the bike isn't running. That way I could stop the immobiliser kicking in without draining the battery. Yes, I know I can stop the alarm doing that, but I do want it to kick when I turn off the ignition after taking the key out.

[graphikill]

take bulbs out!

lmao then just pop them back in at night!

[Stu]

Sorry , bit off topic....

But, the other day whilst in the cage, I came close to pulling out on a bike. Scary thought from a biker I know....

Silver Fazer (old style) no lights on, rider with a grey jacket and silver lid. Where the bike was a bit dirty it was more grey than silver. This was against a dull grey skyline and the bike was in front of a silver/grey transit.

I started to go, decided to look again because something said "check", and it was lucky I did. Couldn't see him against the background. Feels funny almost being on the other side of a SMIDSY :?

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It's because of idiots like this (the rider not Jester) that I'm with the EU on this.
Villers - like the sound of your job have you seen the other thread on Jobs?
If you work for Govt. then surely EU is a valid excuse that they must support, also surely dipped beams shouldn't be dazzling.

I can't believe there is any possible time that headlights don't help you be seen - especially if the cager has sun in their eyes they will only be able to see something else bright. A motorcycle's not going to be big enough to block out the sun.
I didn't ever hear that Baron von Richthofen put his headlights on for best effect!

[creamerybutter]

I can't believe there is any possible time that headlights don't help you be seen - especially if the cager has sun in their eyes they will only be able to see something else bright. A motorcycle's not going to be big enough to block out the sun.

No but the way it was explained in a mag (bike I think it was) is that if the sun is low down behind you they should see a silhouette of you if you put a light in the middle of that then all they see is lots of light bacuse you aren't as big a contrast anymore Also I quite often get people pulling out as I have hit a bump and they think I have flashed them, Usually it isn't much of a problem as I am expecting it but still.

[Stu]

Agreed Creamy, but the chances of you being exactly silhouetted by the sun are far less than just the sun is in the cagers eyes and you are somewhere in that direction.
http://upload4.postimage.org/402040/sun.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/402040/photo_hosting.html)

[martin_SV]

Hi thanks for all the input in partic the details of the wires to break into. , didn't expect the diversion to why anyone would want to do this but heh ---its a forum!!

Next query is can you sugest a wire up near the bars/front fairing which will provide an always on fused live (12v) feed?. Needs to take about 6ish amps for subnotebook PC with gps. ( did this B4 on my naked now got a K3 pointy)

cheers
martin

[Grinch]

Though I have my lights on, I was told that it makes it more difficult for people to judge your distance. That why they pullout on you, still, less, but still (also some just don't look).