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I'm looking for a career any one got any suggestion's of jobs to do and jobs not to do from experience.
Peter Henry
14-06-06, 06:43 PM
Mine. :?
northwind
14-06-06, 06:45 PM
Do not, under any ircumstances, accapt career advice from an internet forum :)
But if you do, take this advice: avoid, at all costs, retail (high street) banking.
Don't be a secretary - boring as hell although you do get to chat on the forum all day
Data processing :smt015 :smt015 :smt015
Retail management :smt013 :hackedoff:
You can have my job if you want.
You'll probably have to move to India to do it mind.
:( :evil:
El Saxo
14-06-06, 06:52 PM
Space cowboy?
creamerybutter
14-06-06, 06:54 PM
You could join the exciting* world of the Civil Service like me.
Excitement not guaranteed
You could join the exciting* world of the Civil Service like me.
Excitement not guaranteed
It is if you join HMRC. If you go into the uniformed side you can annoy the hell out of people by stopping them after a 22 hour flight and detain them indefinitely while you check for illegal importations.
Or you can be a VAT inspector [as I was] and bill people who have been cheating for years. And if you go into fraud work, you can kick their doors in at 6am and seized all their records and computers. And listen to numerous conversations confirming what you already know - Customs DO have more powers than the police.
Or you can stop lorries under this new regime they were bringing in. Stop vans and check for diesel.
Or you can go after the labour gang masters which is in our remit.
Plenty of scope for excitement in Customs :P :wink: :lol: :lol:
Fast food server and part time dinner lady is not as fulfilling as it sounds.
Quiff Wichard
14-06-06, 07:04 PM
I went for a job..
The man said-
you have to assist Jordan..in Manchester
she needs stripping down before each photo shoot.
bathing in cool water then u have to towel her naked body down
she then wants talcum powderrubbing into all the parts of her body that couldstay moist.,,
and then she might ask you to tweek some extremities so they stand out on the picture better..
oo I said ace.. i am interested.
Ok- be in Edinburgh by 10am tomorrow morning
Edinburgh?... u said Manchester?.. is the job in Edinburgh then?
No- that's where the end of the queue is!! :D
I went for a job..
The man said-
you have to assist Jordan..in Manchester
she needs stripping down before each photo shoot.
bathing in cool water then u have to towel her naked body down
she then wants talcum powderrubbing into all the parts of her body that couldstay moist.,,
and then she might ask you to tweek some extremities so they stand out on the picture better..
oo I said ace.. i am interested.
Ok- be in Edinburgh by 10am tomorrow morning
Edinburgh?... u said Manchester?.. is the job in Edinburgh then?
No- that's where the end of the queue is!! :D
Guess i will be joing that queue
creamerybutter
14-06-06, 07:12 PM
You could join the exciting* world of the Civil Service like me.
Excitement not guaranteed
It is if you join HMRC. If you go into the uniformed side you can annoy the hell out of people by stopping them after a 22 hour flight and detain them indefinitely while you check for illegal importations.
Or you can be a VAT inspector [as I was] and bill people who have been cheating for years. And if you go into fraud work, you can kick their doors in at 6am and seized all their records and computers. And listen to numerous conversations confirming what you already know - Customs DO have more powers than the police.
Or you can stop lorries under this new regime they were bringing in. Stop vans and check for diesel.
Or you can go after the labour gang masters which is in our remit.
Plenty of scope for excitement in Customs :P :wink: :lol: :lol:
Also Sarah Conner works for you lot, after fighting off terminators etc she signs cheques for HMRC.
Does sound a lot more interesting the Insolvency Service (well the bit I'm in) unless of course you have a love of paper and moving it around.
are IT jobs well payed then? or are they realy boring?
You could join the exciting* world of the Civil Service like me.
Excitement not guaranteed
It is if you join HMRC. If you go into the uniformed side you can annoy the hell out of people by stopping them after a 22 hour flight and detain them indefinitely while you check for illegal importations.
Or you can be a VAT inspector [as I was] and bill people who have been cheating for years. And if you go into fraud work, you can kick their doors in at 6am and seized all their records and computers. And listen to numerous conversations confirming what you already know - Customs DO have more powers than the police.
Or you can stop lorries under this new regime they were bringing in. Stop vans and check for diesel.
Or you can go after the labour gang masters which is in our remit.
Plenty of scope for excitement in Customs :P :wink: :lol: :lol:
JA-VOLL!!!! :lol: :roll:
DO NOT GO INTO THE MOTOR-TRADE! Ask Jack :wink: (he says hoping this IS Jacks mate from college)
IT IS DIEING! :reaper:
What about going into the MOTOR-bike trade? Thats what I was thinking about doing......starting my own business! :wink:
Hiya mate,by the way!
You could join the exciting* world of the Civil Service like me.
Excitement not guaranteed
It is if you join HMRC. If you go into the uniformed side you can annoy the hell out of people by stopping them after a 22 hour flight and detain them indefinitely while you check for illegal importations.
Or you can be a VAT inspector [as I was] and bill people who have been cheating for years. And if you go into fraud work, you can kick their doors in at 6am and seized all their records and computers. And listen to numerous conversations confirming what you already know - Customs DO have more powers than the police.
Or you can stop lorries under this new regime they were bringing in. Stop vans and check for diesel.
Or you can go after the labour gang masters which is in our remit.
Plenty of scope for excitement in Customs :P :wink: :lol: :lol:
JA-VOLL!!!! :lol: :roll:
DO NOT GO INTO THE MOTOR-TRADE! Ask Jack :wink: (he says hoping this IS Jacks mate from college)
IT IS DIEING! :reaper:
What about going into the MOTOR-bike trade? Thats what I was thinking about doing......starting my own business! :wink:
Hiya mate,by the way!
Hello mate yer it is me, if you do start your own bike garage then please hire me i have been looking for an apprentice for one and no one wants to take us on.
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 07:17 PM
I'm looking for a career any one got any suggestion's of jobs to do and jobs not to do from experience.
Not really going to help you. But try and find a job you like the sound of. Something that you think you want to do as a career. Find out more about it do some research find out what the pay is like and can you afford to live , do the things you wanna do in your spare time and then pick that job.
I work in I.T. I really enjoy it. But you might not. The hours can be long and I have to do 24/7 on call one week in every four. Being phoned up by work at 3 in the morning isnt the most enjoyable experience. Often I have to work out of hours at weekends and evenings so I can do maintenance etc etc so it can disrupt my social life sometimes. Working on a IT Helpdesk is the most thankless task you can ever do IMHO. I really wouldnt recommend that.
However, the pay is good for what I do now. Its always challenging and I never get bored. Often I'm faced with situations where something is broken and I don't know how to fix it so I have the challenge of working out whats wrong and putting it right. Which for me I really like. Plus the fact I've worked up through the food chain as it were and now I dont have to work on the helpdesk I get to design & deploy new software and hardware. The biggest thing I've done was to roll out Windows 2000 remotley across two buildings ( approximately 700 PC's ), I also got to setup the software infrastructure that ran one of warehouses that dealt with approx 5000+ parcels a day.
I'm currently managing 3 data centres and am responsible for ensuring that every runs smoothyl and helping to plan an installation of 2.5 million pounds worth on Sun Solaris hardware. Also I am managing moving 50 odd PC''s and associated gubbins 10 miles from one warehouse to another in Swindon.
I get ADSL at home that work pay for and also a laptop that I can use when I'm at home for personal use. This is so I can dial in when I'm on call.
are IT jobs well payed then? or are they realy boring?
Yes, and yes .... :?
..but then I'm fed up of sitting in offices in general...
Does sound a lot more interesting the Insolvency Service (well the bit I'm in) unless of course you have a love of paper and moving it around.
You know theres a website with OGD vacancies on dont you? If you dont and are interested Ill find the link.
Ps. Insolvency service is quite fun too. If youre an Insolvency Practitioner you can upset people just as much as we can when you work with us. As one of my visits has transpired. Someone is under the impression we cant touch them - limited liability etc. And that they can move the money offshore.
Its help from the IP means that a. they are now personally liable for the debt and b. we can go after their offshore accounts in the Channel Islands and Carribean. :D
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 07:19 PM
are IT jobs well payed then? or are they realy boring?
See my post above, Basically they are well paid and not boring. However if you have no skills or experience then you are likely to earn f*ck all money for the first two years until you have got trained and some experience under your belt.
It's something I've been thinking about for awhile,I'll keep you informed matey!
I won't be taking on Jack-the-Hat though,he's useless!!!!! :lol: Nah he's alright! :wink:
Quiff Wichard
14-06-06, 07:20 PM
Lyne just LOVES her job dont she !!
Lyne just LOVES her job dont she !!
Thats what I thought!!!!! :roll: :lol:
I'm looking for a career any one got any suggestion's of jobs to do and jobs not to do from experience.
Not really going to help you. But try and find a job you like the sound of. Something that you think you want to do as a career. Find out more about it do some research find out what the pay is like and can you afford to live , do the things you wanna do in your spare time and then pick that job.
I work in I.T. I really enjoy it. But you might not. The hours can be long and I have to do 24/7 on call one week in every four. Being phoned up by work at 3 in the morning isnt the most enjoyable experience. Often I have to work out of hours at weekends and evenings so I can do maintenance etc etc so it can disrupt my social life sometimes. Working on a IT Helpdesk is the most thankless task you can ever do IMHO. I really wouldnt recommend that.
However, the pay is good for what I do now. Its always challenging and I never get bored. Often I'm faced with situations where something is broken and I don't know how to fix it so I have the challenge of working out whats wrong and putting it right. Which for me I really like. Plus the fact I've worked up through the food chain as it were and now I dont have to work on the helpdesk I get to design & deploy new software and hardware. The biggest thing I've done was to roll out Windows 2000 remotley across two buildings ( approximately 700 PC's ), I also got to setup the software infrastructure that ran one of warehouses that dealt with approx 5000+ parcels a day.
I'm currently managing 3 data centres and am responsible for ensuring that every runs smoothyl and helping to plan an installation of 2.5 million pounds worth on Sun Solaris hardware. Also I am managing moving 50 odd PC''s and associated gubbins 10 miles from one warehouse to another in Swindon.
I get ADSL at home that work pay for and also a laptop that I can use when I'm at home for personal use. This is so I can dial in when I'm on call.
Now your job is the type of job i like
1) Challenge
2) Responsibility
3) Good Pay
4) Job Satisfaction
It's something I've been thinking about for awhile,I'll keep you informed matey!
I won't be taking on Jack-the-Hat though,he's useless!!!!! :lol: Nah he's alright! :wink:
LOL!!!! poor useless jack, But if you did start a motorbike garage up then I'm gonna want to be on your payroll :D
Fizz,
You couldn't go and show VW's GEDAS how to make a decent system for Garage internal networks then could you?
Our one is utter PANTS!
Over-complicated,rubbish!
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 07:29 PM
1) Challenge
2) Responsibility
3) Good Pay
4) Job Satisfaction
Ah but it took me 10 years before I started earning decent money. You have to be prepared to work for it. Theres no point looking for jobs that pay decent money if you don't have any experience in the industry you want to work in. You wont get an interview. Trust me I know. Sometimes I do the interviewing. I would rather employe somebody with 2 or 3 years field experience than Graduates with degree's but its all book based learning and they dont actually know how to do the basic stuff. Also it comes down to personality, will they fit within the team of people I already have. I'd rather get a good personality fit and then spend sometime giving training than employing the best person I can find knowing that he / she is going to cause friction within the team or general behave like a moron.
If you want to get into IT go and learn the basics and spend some time on a helpdesk. It will stand you in good stead. But its f*cking boring and soul destroying.
stewboy
14-06-06, 07:30 PM
are IT jobs well payed then? or are they realy boring?
no way i love IT .... ive been doing it for 4 months after being in recruitment for 3 years ...
IT is cool .....and somtime you do sweet FA all day ...and browse the net...
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 07:31 PM
Fizz,
You couldn't go and show VW's GEDAS how to make a decent system for Garage internal networks then could you?
Our one is utter PANTS!
Over-complicated,rubbish!
I'll try, but I'll wager your IT department is run by a moron who thinks he / she knows better than the staff they have working for them and tell them how to do their jobs all the time. :wink:
I would also wager the system you have now, the people that actually use it had no input whatsoever in the design stage. So know you have something that you didnt want, was expensive and is horrible to use and actually is a pain in the bum :wink:
stewboy
14-06-06, 07:31 PM
Lyne just LOVES her job dont she !!
LMFAO you think :lol:
creamerybutter
14-06-06, 07:36 PM
You do seem to like what you do!
You know theres a website with OGD vacancies on dont you? If you dont and are interested Ill find the link.
OGD? O.... Goverment Departments?
Ps. Insolvency service is quite fun too.
Not in the redundency payments section.
Lyne just LOVES her job dont she !!
LMFAO you think :lol:
:oops: :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Sorry yes Creamerybutter, OGD is other government departments. :oops:
Best place to start is to identify something that you'll find interesting. No point in going to work and hating every minute, even if it is well paid.
Revenue & Customs sounds interesting. Some of us live in fear of lynw bashing the door down :wink:
Fizz,
You're spot on there mate!
You don't know them do you?
It was designed exclusively by GEDAS,with absolutely NO input from other Garage's whatsoever!
We had the system put in over 2 years ago now,and they STILL have to come down to sort it out and re-train the people who have to use it!
Luckily I don't have to use it much as I'm a just a Tech,but the problem we have at the 'blunt-end' of the Garage is that it causes no-end of problems with stock monitoring,job/vehicle history etc etc...So it makes EVERYONES life that much more difficult,which in turn affects the profit of the company,whick in turn affects my bloody wages!!! :evil:
are IT jobs well payed then? or are they realy boring?
no way i love IT .... Ive been doing it for 4 months after being in recruitment for 3 years ...
IT is cool .....and somtime you do sweet FA all day ...and browse the net...
:laughat: :stupid:
Its all good until you start doing real IT work and not supporting users where your supporting the infrastructure, like if you make a mistake you might loose Europe, or japan off of your network. I'm so busy at the moment i don't have time to take a **** let alone surf the web all day.
Does IT pay well? Well that depends, it beats working in a shop, or going to work in a factory, if you can just do it 8hrs a day.
But with the pay comes the responsibility of potentially loosing the business millions of pounds if you make a mistake, and it's not unreasonable to be called up on your mobile phone, any day of the week, at any time, even if your not on call, should the problem be that severe.
You have to study in your own time for work projects to be able to implement them, and keep on top of new technologies that may be relevant to your job, area of "expertise".
Suddenly your 35hr week looks more like a 40+hr week in general and maybe more over the year depedning on how bad your are at making your stuff stay up and working. Plus buying your own study material, etc, etc..Not as rosy as it initally sounds.
Think carefully before moving into IT, unless you just want to install Windows all day. But it can be a good job, if your a geek.
Dan
fizzwheel
14-06-06, 08:07 PM
Fizz,
You're spot on there mate!
You don't know them do you?
It was designed exclusively by GEDAS,with absolutely NO input from other Garage's whatsoever!
We had the system put in over 2 years ago now,and they STILL have to come down to sort it out and re-train the people who have to use it!
Luckily I don't have to use it much as I'm a just a Tech,but the problem we have at the 'blunt-end' of the Garage is that it causes no-end of problems with stock monitoring,job/vehicle history etc etc...So it makes EVERYONES life that much more difficult,which in turn affects the profit of the company,whick in turn affects my bloody wages!!! :evil:
Nope it just happens all the time.
creamerybutter
14-06-06, 08:31 PM
Sorry yes Creamerybutter, OGD is other government departments. :oops:
I see, well that’s news to me. Are there any departments that deal with lion taming :lol:
Just a thought, study the legal profession, they always seen to do OK. Wish I'd done that. Just dull for me though. Beware that some aspects that are now being out sourced though.
I.T. can be interesting although the last two companies that I worked for now out source most of the software engineering to lower cost centers i.e. China and India. Some clever people out there. Infrastructure is still good here though as Fizz states and that can pay well. Be prepared to move for the best pay.
I've been a tech for many years and had a lot of fun doing it. I've finally got the break now to do something else.
Good luck!
Lynw said
Plenty of scope for excitement in Customs
If you can get it to it They turned me down 10 times.(think they knew all about me) citing a different reason each time.
Whatever you do do not work for the CSA.
I'm a project manager with local government now - its great I have £80k to spend and yuo \:D/ know what women are like for retail therapy
yer you hand it over the counter for a pair or shoes worth 10quid :)
am...am i close
ArtyLady
14-06-06, 11:11 PM
Dont be an artist - unless you cant paint, of course then you can cut up dead animals or put a minging old bed or a brick wall in an exhibition and become very rich and famous for not being talented at all :x :?
ohh dont wory there i cant do art to save my life :)
Biker Biggles
15-06-06, 08:40 AM
Listen to ED-----Get into something you are interested in and keen on whatever the pay is like.There will always be opportunities for betterment later,but there is nothing worse than getting stuck in a career path that you hate every minute of.
Also try to look ahead ten years.Will your chosen career still exist by then?A lot of IT jobs will emigrate to India and other cheap labour areas over the next few years,as will any job that is done entirely over the phone or internet.Looking back,who would have thought in 1979 that their chosen job in the coal industry would be history within ten years?Plenty of other examples of that throughout British industry so beware the "safe job".
Peter Henry
15-06-06, 08:57 AM
Speedy wrote:
What about going into the MOTOR-bike trade? Thats what I was thinking about doing......starting my own business!
Funny you should mention that,watch this space......... :wink:
sharriso74
15-06-06, 09:05 AM
Speedy wrote:
What about going into the MOTOR-bike trade? Thats what I was thinking about doing......starting my own business!
Funny you should mention that,watch this space......... :wink:
Ducatti dealership??? Well you'll have to test them all
Peter Henry
15-06-06, 09:40 AM
Nothing quite so grand mate. But a market has been identified. :wink:
I'm a Personal Assistant at CEO level in Private Equity - also know as the "sexier side of finance". Altho' it's still admin, I enjoy my job given levels of responsibility, the team spirit and my boss is a good one. It's also really refreshing to find a guy who's a PA and you'd be a rarity.
My advice to you generally would be to aim at the highest level you can.
Or become a gardener - they earn **** loads, work outside and get a tan.
Biker Biggles
15-06-06, 10:25 AM
Ah PH going into something that you enjoy doing perhaps?Bike hire-----Bike tours----- Rest home for old bikers? How about naturist biking holidays? :lol:
sharriso74
15-06-06, 10:26 AM
How about naturist biking holidays? :lol:
Need to put a towel over the seat in all that sun. BBQ pork sword ouch!!!!!
sharriso74
15-06-06, 11:47 AM
Dont be an artist - unless you cant paint, of course then you can cut up dead animals or put a minging old bed or a brick wall in an exhibition and become very rich and famous for not being talented at all :x :?
I see what you mean
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/15062006/80-132/gallery-loses-its-head.html
I forgot to mention you can also get involved with the smuggling of antiquities which was in the news this morning:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,29389-2226268,00.html
and animals as Customs are involved with upholiding CITES conventions. Though Im not sure I would have been able to keep a straight face as did one of my colleagues arresting a guy with a parrot stuck in his trousers. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Though its not all pleasant. I know one guy that seized a load of rotting meat which had been in a suitcase lost by an airliner for a week.[food imports to this country are strictly controlled too]. :shock: :(
vsumouse
15-06-06, 12:10 PM
if you got a big ERRRRMMMM..... :oops:
maybe you could be a :makelurve: STAR and get into a bit of :smt079
i think that would be a good job for you :lol:
I had no idea what to do for around 5 years after leaving high school - i had rubbish advice though and 0 role models to work with. I eventually went travelling as it was the only thing i was interested in doing - best education ever as it opened horizons to the rest of the world. Some advice I wish i had back then though:
You need to think of where you want to be in 2/5/10 years ect - set some personal goals.
Make a plan of how you are going to get to that first goal - then do something about it so you can tick it off.
Find some mentors - people who you want to be like and find out all about them. How they got there, what makes them tick etc.
Peter Henry
15-06-06, 12:50 PM
B.B wrote:
How about naturist biking holidays?
Such intuition sir? How do you do it? :?
philipMac
15-06-06, 12:57 PM
If I was starting over again, and I couldnt be a bioinformatician/linux sys admin/programmer type... I would be, either a landscape gardener OR a silver smith. Or a stone mason maybe.
I really liked doing fine metal work when I was in school. And, I was actually quite good at doing and planing big gardening things.
The whole white collar blue collar thing means nothing now in terms of money. In Ireland and the US anyway.
But that's just me. I find computers, biology, and that sort of stuff interesting. I have the privalage to work in this area. Pick somehting you like, and worm your way in there, work for half nothing, get good.
Same as everyone else is saying really I suppose. You could make loads of money being a plasterer. Then spend your free time doing something really cool, like, em, I dunno. Drugs maybe.
Then spend your free time doing something really cool, like, em, I dunno. Drugs maybe.
:shock:
Choose something that you can do anywhere, in case you get bored with England. I wish I had a skill that I could use somewhere else. Have often toyed with the idea of living someplace else (if they'd have me) but I'm qualified in England and Wales only and i couldn't work in say NZ without a lot of retraining.
ArtyLady
15-06-06, 04:05 PM
Dont be an artist - unless you cant paint, of course then you can cut up dead animals or put a minging old bed or a brick wall in an exhibition and become very rich and famous for not being talented at all :x :?
I see what you mean
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/15062006/80-132/gallery-loses-its-head.html
lmao thats just what I mean :roll: The actual sculpture was rejected - but the base plinth was accepted -by mistake :shock: ) as it "had merit" what a joke :lol: :lol:
Anonymous
15-06-06, 05:29 PM
classroom assistant or teacher. working with kids (thats the down side) but 13 weeks paid holiday a year woohoo :lol:
if you got a big ERRRRMMMM..... :oops:
maybe you could be a :makelurve: STAR and get into a bit of :smt079
i think that would be a good job for you :lol:
I had thought about that but I'm a bit camera shy so I'm not to sure it would work i am thinking of doing it as a hobby.
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