Highways agency, proposal to add extra lanes to motorways

[timwilky]

The highways agency are proposing to add an extra lane to sections of the M62 and M1 to ease congestion. This will be achieved by reducing the existing lanes/hardshoulder by 15cm. I am alarmed that these new narrow lanes will remove the ability to filter on these sections of motorway when the inevitable congestion re occurs.

If additional congestion busting lanes are required. Surely the job should be done properly and the adjacent land compulsory purchased etc to enable the expansion of the roads infrastructure new bridges etc.

[Daimo]

Already under way fella. Its a nightmare...

See.........

http://www.trickmonkey.net/images/PVS%202006/IMG_1168%20(Large).JPG

[Jabba]

Surely the job should be done properly and the adjacent land compulsory purchased etc to enable the expansion of the roads infrastructure new bridges etc.

In an ideal world, yes, but this way they get to add lanes without the problems of trying to purchase land from possibly many owners (some may say yes, some may say no) and having to go through a lengthy planning and public enquiry process.

Tree-huggers get no say this way.

[DanDare]

Can't see theres a couple of skips in the way! :wink: :lol:

[Stingo]

the reg on the red one is nearly rude...nearly....

[Skip]

the reg on the red one is nearly rude...nearly....
Not just me that thought that then! :oops: :lol:

[Biker Biggles]

Nearly rude,but probably accurate.
As for the lane thing,don't motorways have to conform to certain standards in order to be called motorways?I would have thought that included things like having a hard shoulder and a minimum lane width,so maybe the lanes are currently exceptionaly wide.Won't make any difference to conjestion of course as everyone will still drive in the outside lane however many other lanes are available. :twisted:

[wyrdness]

I don't think that adding extra lanes to motorways works anyway. The cage drivers will still stay nose-to-tail in the rightmost two lanes whilst the left hand lanes are almost empty.

[Daimo]

Dandare, ha ha ha git :lol: It leaves my SV standing though 8)

Wyrdness - Inside lane it is then. America have got it right, over and undertake, drivers only need to change lanes into the spaces then.

Once i'd driven over there, i adopt the same rule for over here (any haters or whingers, im saying shaaaaat itttt now before you whinge). The way I go to work might as well be in the USA anyway. No-one on the inside lane bar the odd 1 or 2, a few people in the middle lane, outside lane is nose to tail all the way down (A2).......

Your not allowed to undertake
Your not allowed to flash
your not allowed to use your horn.

So whil im sitting at 50mph in the outside lane following some weiner who can't drive for toffee, i undertake, i get done for it.

Dont you love UK driving :lol:

[Jase22]

Rather than mess about adding lanes to motorways so there's more lanes for people to not be able to use properly, why not teach them to use the 3 lanes properly? Advanced compulsory training perhaps?

[Daimo]

Funny you should say that....

Now when i was learning, i went on a dual carrageway for about 2 minutes. That was my training (luckily, i wasn't stupid).....

My friends never went on it.

My GF's little brother just had his test after about 5 lessons. HE wasn't confident at all, his instructor said he'd pass, even though he hadn't done para parking and been on any dual carrageways.......

He failed....

But, if he'd passed, he'd have had no DC training at all.

Anyone who lives in a city won't either (probably why most people just can't drive down this way)...

Its the guidelines that allow people to pass. It should be made MUCH harder imo.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Er, what? :?

You do have some strange ideas.

Ever been to the states? From my limited experience, driving ability over there can be truely terrifying, and they do get motorway training.

The Germans have the (or one of the) hardest driving tests in the world, yet we still have better safety records than both of them.

Current driving standards slipping have nothing to do with current licencing guidelines.