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Peter Parker
16-06-06, 05:35 PM
Brent Cross Parking (http://www.brentcross-london.com/parking/index.htm)
My local Shopping Centre is planning to charge for car parking. Charging for car parking I don't think is an issue to most - especially at only £1 for 2 hours, however, the plans include charging the same rate for motorcycles in dedicated areas!
Thoughts?
I initially thought, hmm, but they do not seem to pick out the motorcycle issues - security, and the fact that we don't add to congestion in the same way as cars afterall we occupy far less space! If we can fit 2 or 3 bikes in 1 space then why are we going to be charged the same.
Luckily the owners seem to be consulting with people on many issues, including charges. If the idea affects you then speak up - it looks like we could mould the facilities given to bikers!! (hoorah!)
UlsterSV
16-06-06, 05:37 PM
It's only a pound ye tight git :P :lol:
If they offered something other than just a hatched car parking space it might be wothwhile. If your being consulted and don't mind the charge push for eveything you can get - hoops, lockers, safe lockable helmet storage etc etc anything to make life a little bit easier when your there. A biker freindly shopping centre - there a unique marketing ploy!
Otherwise if you don't want to pay tell them to bog off!
Biker Biggles
16-06-06, 06:29 PM
I thought the idea of parking at places like Brent Cross was to encourage people to go and shop there.I reckon if everyone boycotted the place the whole idea would rapidly find ity's way to the back burner.
If no motorcyclist's turned up, would they even notice
There's not many of us and it's not like you can carry a lot of shopping home.
Biker Biggles
16-06-06, 06:48 PM
Quite so,I was thinking about car drivers not turning up.They would soon drop it then.
Sorry, I'm used to paying for car parking unfortunately.
Isn't Brent Cross in London? You've done well getting free car parking til now.
Biker Biggles
16-06-06, 07:02 PM
Actually you would have to pay me to go there,but I think they have a nerve to charge you to park in their car park so you can go and spend money in their shops.If they are worried about commuters parking there all day then by all means charge for staying for more than say five hours,but not for genuine customers.
Whats next?
They will be charging us for breathing next!
This is stupid for all the reasons that have already been said,bikes use less space,don't cause congestion etc etc!
I don't like leaving my bike unattended while i'm out on it anyway,so generally use the car for shopping etc.
This has obviously been thought up by someone who counts the pennies,and wants a few more quid out of Joe-public!
Would'nt be so bad if the parking was patrolled by guards that WOULD protect the bikes,but lets face it,they wouldn't be! :evil:
Red ones
16-06-06, 10:00 PM
Actually you would have to pay me to go there,but I think they have a nerve to charge you to park in their car park so you can go and spend money in their shops.If they are worried about commuters parking there all day then by all means charge for staying for more than say five hours,but not for genuine customers.
Hence the token charge of £1 for shoppers! It is the ONLY Shopping Centre within the Greater london area that remains free to park at. If you look at the charge for all day parking then it will discourage commuters. The idea ain't going to go away, it is happening - take it from me!
If no motorcyclist's turned up, would they even notice
There's not many of us and it's not like you can carry a lot of shopping home.
you've not been shopping with me then. :wink: :P :lol:
I can get loads on the SV. But then I do have a topbox, tailpack, panniers, tank bag and rucksack. Comes in handy for doing the christmas shop, especially when combined with a Pan Europeans storage capacity. :D :lol: :lol:
wyrdness
16-06-06, 10:29 PM
I live very close to Brent Cross, so often shop there. I'll pop in on my way home from work to quickly buy things. If they start charging for parking, then I'd probably go somewhere else instead.
I can't see anywhere on the web site that mentions bikes being included in the parking charges. Who told you that bikes would be charged too?
It's very unusual for there to be charges for bike parking in London and we don't really want anywhere to start setting precedents.
According to our local paper, the rationale behind the charges is to stop people from parking there for long periods (i.e. leaving their car there and getting the tube into work). If this is true, then why not have the first two hours free and then charge after that?
Filipe M.
17-06-06, 12:03 AM
If no motorcyclist's turned up, would they even notice
There's not many of us and it's not like you can carry a lot of shopping home.
you've not been shopping with me then. :wink: :P :lol:
I can get loads on the SV. But then I do have a topbox, tailpack, panniers, tank bag and rucksack. Comes in handy for doing the christmas shop, especially when combined with a Pan Europeans storage capacity. :D :lol: :lol:
Resulting mental image: moving luggage with bike wheels and a helmet on top. :shock:
I worked at BrentX for 20 years and am surprised they never introduced a parking tariff before now. It is a nightmare with traffic at busy times of the year and i just do not bother going anymore.....too many bad memories of my old jobs as well :lol:
Peter Parker
17-06-06, 07:11 PM
I can't see anywhere on the web site that mentions bikes being included in the parking charges. Who told you that bikes would be charged too?
Trust me, I have my sources. - Actually just ask at the promo stand they have, plus all the shop staff have been told this
According to our local paper, the rationale behind the charges is to stop people from parking there for long periods (i.e. leaving their car there and getting the tube into work). If this is true, then why not have the first two hours free and then charge after that?I live very close to Brent Cross, so often shop there. I'll pop in on my way home from work to quickly buy things. If they start charging for parking, then I'd probably go somewhere else instead.
What, and pay more? Or just abandon your bike in the street?
It's very unusual for there to be charges for bike parking in London and we don't really want anywhere to start setting precedents.
Please join me then, by advocating either free parking on environmental and congestion grounds, or a minimal charge but provide lockers, ground anchors and DECENT security! There is a link on their website to leave comments!
Red ones
17-06-06, 07:12 PM
I worked at BrentX for 20 years and am surprised they never introduced a parking tariff before now. It is a nightmare with traffic at busy times of the year and i just do not bother going anymore
42 minutes from Stevenage on a REALLY busy day - 28 on a good 'un!
I worked at BrentX for 20 years and am surprised they never introduced a parking tariff before now. It is a nightmare with traffic at busy times of the year and i just do not bother going anymore
42 minutes from Stevenage on a REALLY busy day - 28 on a good 'un!
I meant going shopping with wifey by car
Red ones
18-06-06, 07:47 AM
I meant going shopping with wifey by car
Now that is costly, stressful and time wasting - and that makes no comment on the shops!
Saw a mate today who works in John Lewis Brent x.....there was an annoucment last Thursday.....all workers will be charged 5 quid a day to park!!!!!!! Managing directors from various big stores have complained to the owners of BrentX but it seems as from next year it will cost 100 quid a month to park there for workers and John Lewis is not footing any of the bill for it's workers .....nothing was said about motorbikes though
If no motorcyclist's turned up, would they even notice
There's not many of us and it's not like you can carry a lot of shopping home.
you've not been shopping with me then. :wink: :P :lol:
I can get loads on the SV. But then I do have a topbox, tailpack, panniers, tank bag and rucksack. Comes in handy for doing the christmas shop, especially when combined with a Pan Europeans storage capacity. :D :lol: :lol:
Me niether!!! I do my monthly shop on mine :P
Spiderman
19-06-06, 02:03 PM
Brent Cross is a dive in comparison to somewhere like the Galleria.
I never like going there at the best of times (and i used to live oppoisite the bloody place too) and now this just cements in my mind what a joke it is.
X-mas time they dont control the flow of traffic in and out of the place so why should anyone have to pay for that priveledge?
I'll deffo get on thier website later and leave them some rude comments about being money grabbing *******s. Could you imagine the traffic chaos localy if every car going in and out had to wait for the barrier to open and close.
For those of you not familiar with the place i probably sound like a right moany git about this but having lived in the area nearly all my life i know just what a joke this will become.
Sadly, the type of people who actually enjoy shopping there will probably agree to the charge as their narrow minds will think "well it'll keep the riff raff out i guess"
But most of the riff raff arrive by bus :lol:
So where are we supposed to stick the ticket then huh? :? Surely not there... :shock: !!! :lol:
wyrdness
19-06-06, 03:31 PM
So where are we supposed to stick the ticket then huh? :? Surely not there... :shock: !!! :lol:
In yer pocket. It's going to be one of those 'pay as you leave' systems. I prefer those to pay and display. BUT NOT FOR BIKES!
And charging employees a fiver a day for parking is just out of order.
Red ones
19-06-06, 04:49 PM
I have tried to stay impartial, however....
The £5 for staff is part of a consultation on which the owners are prepared to listen. The system will be a pay-on-foot that is better described on the website. The owners are prepared to listen to sane, rational argument and are actually inviting comments through the website, and active feedback on site (there is even a permanently manned stand in the building)
X-mas time they dont control the flow of traffic in and out of the place so why should anyone have to pay for that priveledge?
Spidey - you disappoint me! Last Christmas, apart from the fact that Thames Water took 5 days to repair a water main on the A41, BX took a lot of effort to keep traffic flowing, to get the traffic flowing any better would have required a change in law so that the local roads can be comandeered for shoopers leaving the site! Somedays there was even a very good looking young man directing traffic!
Brent Cross is a dive in comparison to somewhere like the Galleria.
Have you been recently (ie in the last 2 years)? A large number of stores have changed to reflect what local people want and HUGE sums invested to lift the standard of presentation.
Spidey Consider yourself invited to get a tour of the place and see what it is really about!
And charging employees a fiver a day for parking is just out of order.
What do employees pay for parking at other Shopping Centres in Greater London?
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