Running In - New SV650

[Abyss]

Righty, As I mentioned in my other thread I will have a nice shiny new Naked K6 waiting for me when I go back up to Shrewsbury in a couple of weeks however I'm guessing im going to be gentle on it (which I will be since im a new rider!) but I was wondering what I should be doing to running it in?

Ive been reading so many differrent conclicting things about keeping it below x revs for x miles, service it and then keep below xx revs for another xx miles etc etc. but no idea myself.

a note is that it is Retricted.



Thanks
Leon / Abyss

[Kilted Ginger]

Just got mine a couple of weeks ago and book and dealer said <5500 rpm for 600 miles then <8500 rpm after 600 mile service up to 1000 miles, dont know how necessary this is as I'm new to biking but I'm sticking to it (without any probs) :shock:

[Viney]

I run mine in according to the letter.

Not above 5k for the 1st 600 miles. Then that was is, its been ragged to death ever since.

It may have once or twice gone over the 5k, but was generaly treated nicely.

Doris now has 44500 miles on the clock for the record.

[diamond]

When i ran my bike in i did it exactly to the book, but if i needed to use extra revs i did. The guy in the garage said that there is no harm in reving the engine briefly for overtaking etc just don't hold the bike at constant high revs on the motorway for example. I just went up and down through the gear box and through the rev range giving everything a chance to bed in properly. I've had my bike exactly a year now and done over 16,000 miles on it without any hassle. It's never missed a beat or used any oil, so hopefully i did the right thing.

Good luck and enjoy the new bike.

[Toypop]

First 100 miles ride around town and absolutely do not going over the book recommendation.

From 100 to 600 you can go up to 6000 occassionally.

Once I got to 600 and had my service I didn't stick to the book that strictly. I didn't rant it all the time but I quite often went over the limit.

I have followed the same procedure with all my new cars and bikes and never had to top a single one up with oil between services. Never even noticed a mm of movement on the dipstick or oil window either.

[Skip]

I am picking up a new Z750S on Friday and have been drowing in all the information on the internet - but I think you are right in what you say e.d - stick to the manufacturers recommended running in, but if you find yourself in need of a bit more, use it...

[Flamin_Squirrel]

I don't think you need to be that strict, especially later on. The further you get through the running in process the less you can do to upset the engine, although dont baby it towards the end.

[Abyss]

Righty that clears things up, should be easy enough to follow :) cheers guys.

[diamond]

I don't think you need to be that strict, especially later on. The further you get through the running in process the less you can do to upset the engine, although dont baby it towards the end.

Certainly after the first service you can afford to give it some as long as you don't linger on high revs for long periods, but then after the first service you can use most of the rev range anyway.

[The Basket]

My view is that I paid a lot of dough for me bike and what Suzuki said goes.

The sv revs quite quickly...especially for a v-twin so keeping the revs down is easier said than done.

[fizzwheel]

I am picking up a new Z750S on Friday and have been drowing in all the information on the internet - but I think you are right in what you say e.d - stick to the manufacturers recommended running in, but if you find yourself in need of a bit more, use it...

Thats what I did with the GSXR. The only other thing I would suggest is to not baby / nanny the bike. If you dont put enough load on it. The piston rings wont bed in and then you wont get a good seal and it'll burn some oil and you wont get the most BHP out of it.

Dont go mad though its called "running in" for a reason. Remeber you are also bedding in the brakes and you have new tyres on to.

I was also told by the manager in the dealership that I could go 1000rpm past the running in limit.

[northwind]

I guarantee mine was rough broke ;) It was a demo bike, and the shop in question runs theirs in normally till 500 miles then lets them loose on the world. So chances are it was abused from that day till it was sold to the second owner at 2000 miles. She then looked after it right, apparently. Till she crashed it.

SV engines last forever without serious work, even if running them in fast took 50% of the life off them how likely are you to crack 50,000 miles? Just a thought. I'm not sure how I'd run a new one in myself though. Probably get YPE to break it on the dyno, no way would i stick to the schedule. But that's personal choice.

[Sid Squid]

Just ride it.

[kwak zzr]

i feel for you i really do :( running in is a bitch :evil:

[fizzwheel]

i feel for you i really do :( running in is a bitch :evil:

I quite enjoyed it. It gave me some time to get used to the bike. I did 600 miles in a week so it didnt take long. Liz however ran her K5 in 48 hours 8)

[Skip]

i feel for you i really do :( running in is a bitch :evil:

I quite enjoyed it. It gave me some time to get used to the bike. I did 600 miles in a week so it didnt take long. Liz however ran her K5 in 48 hours 8)
I plan to book my first service for precisely two weeks after I pick it up, should give me plenty of incentive.... respect on doing it within a week though Fizz! and Liz thats just mental! :lol:

[fizzwheel]

I picked my bike up on 29th March I clicked round 5000 miles yesterday morning. Liz's is on 16K and her bike isnt a year old yet. :D

[kwak zzr]

i remember sitting on the A41 @ under 5k bored :(
suzuki say use all the gears and all the rev range up to the permited rpm! thats like street riding! they say not to sit at your max rpm in top gear because its just bedding in 6th.
at an average of 30-40mph should take about 17 hours :D i sat at 5k and just got it out the way :?

[Blue_SV650S]

Just ride the thing as you always would, if this means rag the nuts off it, then so be it. If it blows up in the first 3? years (which it won’t) then Mr Suzuki will give you a new engine free of charge!!! 8)

Chances are that your normal riding isn’t going to stress the engine that much anyway. Besides, if running in harder than the book has any detrimental effect then this is likely to be later in life … and lets face it, it will probably have changed keepers a few times by then so not your problem!!! :riding:

[Abyss]

Think its 2 years warrenty, cant remember

[Ed]

I wouldn't mind having the problem of running in a brand spanking new bike :)

[timwilky]

There is a school of thought that says simply let the engine warm up and then rag it.

You can get issues that if the cylinder is too smooth then lubricating oil cannot form a proper protective coating.

Having said that I would personally follow the recommended running in procedure.

Tolerences within engines have improved over the past 20 + years. running in used to take off the high spots on a cylinder. modern engines are a lot more consistant and the "running in" is really a liner polish. Hence the concern that glazing could take place

[Abyss]

I wouldn't mind having the problem of running in a brand spanking new bike :)

I know its such a pain, i dont know how im going to cope! :D :D :D


Cheers for all the advice guys, I dont think its going to take me long to clock up the 600miles < 5K revs so I'll stick to it as best as poss :)

[I'm_a_Newbie]

Do 20 to 50 miles up to around 5000 rpm. Change the oil and filter and use ordinary mineral oil, do not use synthetic or semi synthetic. Then ride the bike hard for the next 500 miles or so. At the next service interval you can change to semi or full synthetic oil. This is the only way to get the rings bedded in properly. Treat it with kid gloves and you will have clogged unevenly worn rings and an engine that will be down on power.

Modern engines are machined to much finer tolerances than engines of 20 to 30 years ago when you had to be more gentle. The honing on the cylinder bores is also much finer and once they become polished your chance to seal the rings properly is gone. With this in mind why do people still insist on treating new engines with kid gloves?

More power = more fun :D

Tim

[darylB]

i suggest letting ed have your bike to run it in, no chance of over revving it , he is a fully fledged iam riding god now :lol: :D

Daryl.


runs and hides.

[Ed]

i suggest letting ed have your bike to run it in, no chance of over revving it

This is true :oops:

he is a fully fledged iam riding god now :lol: :D

Daryl.

This is not. Well, not yet anyhow.


runs and hides.

:smt063

[wheelnut]

Mine had the gentle treatment for about 100 miles, then I rode it with sensitivity for another 400 miles not going over 6500 rpm. Then I forgot about running it in and did a day at Rockingham.

First Service booked tomorrow :P Then I can give it some, properly

[Mr Toad]

Mine had the gentle treatment for about 100 miles, then I rode it with sensitivity for another 400 miles not going over 6500 rpm. Then I forgot about running it in and did a day at Rockingham.

First Service booked tomorrow :P Then I can give it some, properly

As the man says :thumbsup:

Remember (with the greatest of respect) Abyss has only just passed his test (or is about to, fingers crossed) - following the book for running it in will let him get used to the bike. It's a pussycat under 5k revs, and a monster above that - riding hard after the first 100 miles could well end in tears and an early test of the crash bungs :cry:
Stick to the manufacturers recomendations more or less and both you and the bike will come out of the first 1,000 miles in good condition :D

[Abyss]

Yep thats my general plan Mr Toad :)

If its nice weather the 1st week I have it I dont see it taking long to get everything out of the way :D

[arenalife]

What you're trying to do is avoid excessive strain, labouring up a hill in a gear under your 5k limit is far worse than higher revs in the correct gear.

Just ride as if you're running out of petrol, easy shmeezy.