More from white van man

[jonboy]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2258008,00.html

Well if it applies to cyclists then I'm sure it does to bike riders too; it's official, WVM is bleedin' dangerous (but we knew that anyway).

(Great pic though :lol: .)


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[Dicky Ticker]

Kin ell they already have special cycle lanes what more do they want. They will be expecting them to stop for red lights soon and ban them from riding on zebra crossings :lol: Tax the barstewards for using my road I say I have four vehicles and can only drive one at a time ------all that road fund so they can have more space?

On a serious note I do object to the box at traffic lights when you end up with 6-8 cyclists in it and they hold up the flow of traffic when Mr Livingstone has already shortened the light sequence

[Ceri JC]

On a serious note I do object to the box at traffic lights when you end up with 6-8 cyclists in it and they hold up the flow of traffic when Mr Livingstone has already shortened the light sequence

I like that box. It serves as a useful space for me to get my bike into when I filter to the front at lights. :)

[fizzwheel]

On a serious note I do object to the box at traffic lights when you end up with 6-8 cyclists in it and they hold up the flow of traffic when Mr Livingstone has already shortened the light sequence

I like that box. It serves as a useful space for me to get my bike into when I filter to the front at lights. :)

What he said :D

[Flamin_Squirrel]

On a serious note I do object to the box at traffic lights when you end up with 6-8 cyclists in it and they hold up the flow of traffic when Mr Livingstone has already shortened the light sequence

I like that box. It serves as a useful space for me to get my bike into when I filter to the front at lights. :)

What he said :D

3 points and a £60 fine if you're caught :shock: (As I understand it)

I of course never do such a thing, oh no.

[Dicky Ticker]

The point not mentioned is that the WVM is probably25-30cms wider than your average car so to be in the middle of the available road space the vehicle is taking up 10cms both sides of this space Surveys and statistics----oh such joys

All I can say is he will be in for a shock if he measures truck clearances to other vehicles in London.s streets,more like 10cms total clearance,but as long as we don't hit them thats OK

[muffles]

3 points and a £60 fine if you're caught :shock: (As I understand it)

I of course never do such a thing, oh no.

have you got any links, etc that show this? i thought it would be non-endorsable, what offence would it come under? sounds like the same as using a bus lane, for example, which is a non-endorsable offence...?

[Davido]

I got a £30 fine for going in a bus lane. it was listed as a 'moving traffic offence'.

[fraser01]

3 points and a £60 fine if you're caught :shock: (As I understand it)

I of course never do such a thing, oh no.

have you got any links, etc that show this? i thought it would be non-endorsable, what offence would it come under? sounds like the same as using a bus lane, for example, which is a non-endorsable offence...?

Interesting question really, contravening a cycle lane is a £30 fine, however if you contaven a stop line then that is a £60 and 3 points. Its something i have never considered but applying the letter of the law, any motor vehicle should stop at the first stop line and not enter into the marked area...this includes motorbikes :o
So before complaining at a cage driver, remember you could be in the wrong also :wink:

Hope this helps

Rich

[ArtyLady]

Re the topic of this thread - cheek!! :x my OH has a white transit and he's a very careful considerate driver - so there :P :wink:


On a serious note I do object to the box at traffic lights when you end up with 6-8 cyclists in it and they hold up the flow of traffic when Mr Livingstone has already shortened the light sequence


As you well know Mr Maccie I ride a bicycle so dont you be startin' on me matey :wink: :wink: :lol: (friggin thing when I get my licence back I never want plant my backside on it ever again :evil: )

[Ch00]

The 1st white line is the stop line. This is where all traffic should stop. The green area is the cycle safe area meant for push bikes only in order to allow them the 1st chance to pull away. They should not move past the 2nd white line normally level with the traffic signal.

Any vehicle that pulls past this 1st white has then moved though the red light thus awarding ones self with a prize of £60 fine and 3 points on the licence.

Ch00

[fraser01]

The 1st white line is the stop line. This is where all traffic should stop. The green area is the cycle safe area meant for push bikes only in order to allow them the 1st chance to pull away. They should not move past the 2nd white line normally level with the traffic signal.

Any vehicle that pulls past this 1st white has then moved though the red light thus awarding ones self with a prize of £60 fine and 3 points on the licence.

Ch00

thats what i said :lol:

[Ch00]

thats what i said :lol:

I know, I like the sound of my own voice :oops: :lol:

Ch00