Too hot for biking

[wheelnut]

I never thought I would ever say that, Its just so uncomfortable in riding gear. Have had 2 days off and I missed a track day too. Im riding my pedal cycle to the pub instead.

[Vtwinlover]

Yeah tis pretty toasty

Though this is no excuse to go out with just t-shirt and shorts!! :smt018

That goes out to the pillock at Box Hill on the Hayabusa with the stretch swingarm in fact you had no top on at all!! :roll:

[Razor]

I rode in jeans with my leather jacket unzipped. I rode faster than normal to keep me cool 8)

[Vtwinlover]

Well each to their own :?

But your organs will be permanently ventilated when notice not if, you come off (I take it everyone is aware of the law of sod).

[Razor]

Yes some folk are very fond of telling you how you'll get hurt without full leathers on.
If I wasn't an optimist I wouldn't ride a bike :roll:

[Black Rider]

I rode to work yesterday - Fully leathered up OF COURSE :wink:

But for the time i'm on the road it's not worth the hassle.

10mins to get ready - 10mins to get to work - 10 mins to get changed!

AND you're all hot and flustered :wink: for the rest of the day!!!!

Came in the car today - I agree - IT IS TOO HOT FOR RIDING (unless you're going on a decent mooch :lol: )

[instigator]

I rode in jeans with my leather jacket unzipped. I rode faster than normal to keep me cool 8)

Me too. 8) Jeans, steelies and an open leather jacket.

Dinnae care about the safety aspects, I'm too young. Plenty of time to be old, boring and sweaty. ;) *said in JEST*

Having said that I'd never go out in a t-shirt and shorts with no gloves.

[Abyss]

Ive just come back from a random little ride, it had to be little becuase i couldnt condentrate as I was slowly cooking myself.

[auldyin]

people are never happy you would complain if it was p*ssing of rain and then freezing over (this is c*ap can go out on me bike) lets enjoy it when we have the good weather .

[Abyss]

I like riding in the rain

[chazzyb]

I like riding in the rain

Weirdo!

[fizzwheel]

I like riding in the rain

Me to.

Its not that hot enough to put me off riding. Got ventilated leathers, Gloves and boots. Its ok once you are moving and theres some air flow.

[Ed]

Time to switch back to a textile jacket. Mind, darylB, Abyss & me rode over to the pub at Ironbridge last night and after a while sitting outside by the river it got a bit cold for just a T shirt. We had some bloke on a R6 come and join us briefly to tell us about how he went round corners at 120mph :roll:

[muddycoffee]

Yesterday I commuted naked, beneath my FT textile jacket and trousers, but it was still far too hot, because my commute is quite short and all I did was overheat and get covered in sweat for the morning.

Today I used my air conditioned car instead and I drove it wearing shorts.
It is not only ride to work day, but it is also the hottest july day on record, hell I have been riding Motorcycles on the road since 1987, I am not going to miss it for one day.

I never thought it would be too hot to ride. But I have been so hot and bothered all day that I am quite pleased I took the car when I came to go home.

people are never happy you would complain if it was p*ssing of rain and then freezing over (this is c*ap can go out on me bike) lets enjoy it when we have the good weather .
Not so I ride all year around every month of the year, but if it is really greasy or frosty I take the car. Why would I want to ride when it is not fun. For the same reason I didn't ride today because it wasn't worth it, and probably quite dangerous for me with sweat in my eyes and destracting heat driving me mad.

[Stig]

Follow the link in my signature. It was the hottest day in 2004. 36 degrees when I had the off. It might make some you change your mind about wearing protection.

Personally, I am now of the opinion, wear what you want. It's not my skin/bones or organs. :wink: (That goes for my pillions as well).

[kwak zzr]

I rode in jeans with my leather jacket unzipped. I rode faster than normal to keep me cool 8)

same here! although my head was slowly cooking in my lid :?

[Razor]

I did drink loads of water today, easily 3 liters. The threat of dehydration pretty obvious when I haven't passed near as much water as what I drank.

[Reckless Rat]

It's a worry when the SV temp gauge reads 37degC before starting the engine!

It's the slow/30mph bits that are the killer... Didn't feel too bad with some speed on.

RR

[Peter Henry]

As you can imagine, I have been observing this thread with some amusement! 8)

[Warren]

never too hot for biking.

[muddycoffee]

As you can imagine, I have been observing this thread with some amusement! 8)

Yes it is funny because we are suffering with arid "dry heat" which is more like that which you have in the med. Usually we have humid and extremely sweaty heat which seems to be far worse.

Believe I am sure the same tempratures would be far more tolerable in Spain, we have roads awash with melted tar and riding gear which is too hot. The kind of heat we have for a 6 day stretch once every 3 years.

[Warren]

ENOUGH,

you lot moan when its cold, moan when its raining, moan when its hot, moan when its not, how old are you all ?

you sound like a wife

moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan moan

your making me feel like im at a bus stop on pension day.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[21QUEST]

I did drink loads of water today, easily 3 liters. The threat of dehydration pretty obvious when I haven't passed near as much water as what I drank.

I've been drinking close to 5-6Ltr in the space of 4-5Hrs :shock: .
Question for the smart ones. Can that much water be bad for you :? :lol:

Yep , for the first time in donkey years I rode in a pair of jeans. I work roughly 4-5 hours a day(on the bike) and it was getting to the point of the heat posing more of a danger than not being suitably attired and today enough was enough.

Can't wait for the rain :thumbsup:

Cheers
Ben

[Toypop]

I've been riding to work with my jeans, polo shirt and textile trousers and jacket over the top. Obviously the thermal linings are out but the armour is still in.

I get in for 7:30 unlike most of you slackers so its actually fine in the morning before it gets too hot.

On an evening I am sweaty and can't get the gear off quick enough. Fortunately my journey is dual carriageway all the way and all the slow filtering takes place nearer work with the faster clear section on the half nearest my house so this helps reduce over heating on the way home.

I wouldn't dream of riding in town. If I had to it would be on a moped and just wearing a cotton jacket which should be safe at 20mph given that I have been 50mph in a one piece lycra skin suit on a push bike!

[DanAbnormal]

Too hot for biking??? :shock:

MAYBE if I lived on the surface of the sun on a particular warmish day then MAYBE I would consider that it maybe slightly too toasty to ride a bike. But when you get on the open road it's fantastic even in this heat. In fact especially in this heat. I do agree however that sitting in traffic in this heat is not fun. But then to me sitting in traffic on a bike is not what biking is about.

[lynw]

Well each to their own :?

But your organs will be permanently ventilated when notice not if, you come off (I take it everyone is aware of the law of sod).

You know I typed a whole argument to this in [which someones probably quoting as I type], but I know its pointless to mention it to you.

But if you really believe this, can you post your opinion over on visordown and call the guys there that do ride in shorts tossers? I could do with the entertainment. :P :lol:

Though since it has escaped your attention:

a. jeans could mean draggin jeans or other kevlar lined jeans so dont get so uppity over the jeans brigade.

b. bikers still die and still get seriously injured wearing gear, so presuming your not going to be seriously injured when wearing gear is not correct, it can happen wearing gear as much as it can not wearing gear. Ask Rictus about his toes if you dont believe me, IIRC he was wearing Sidis.

c. your gear is not a guarantee of protection. It simply is there to help and while it does fine, but you should not presume it is going to. It depends on how the accident manifests. If you slide, gear will save your skin [provided it doesnt fail which is another possibility] as opposed to shorts. But thats if you slide, you may crash and not slide.

d. people who ride in shorts are probably factoring in the risk. To presume otherwise is pretty insulting really, more so than the name calling. However, I do acknowledge there is a small band who have trainers of invincibility and clearly arent factoring the risk into their riding. :(

e. It simply is none of your business what people choose to wear on their bike. It is THEIR choice as much as you make your choice. You need to accept as much as you disapprove you have no right to presume a superiority over them and start name calling.

[UlsterSV]

Ah Lyn I'm disappointed you decided not to share that. 'Twas quite a telling off :lol: :wink:

[Warren]

i agree lyn, while i do (most of the time) wear the correct gear, biking is dangerous . . . end of.

[lynw]

Ah Lyn I'm disappointed you decided not to share that. 'Twas quite a telling off :lol: :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ive summarised it. :wink: :P :twisted:

While I agree its daft not to wear protective gear, I respect peoples right to choose.

[jonboy]

I've been drinking close to 5-6Ltr in the space of 4-5Hrs :shock: .
Question for the smart ones. Can that much water be bad for you :? :lol:

Possibly. There have been a number of marathon runners that have died through drinking in excess of fifteen litres, so six litres in five hours does sound rather a lot. So take it easy Ben ;).


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[$tevo]

I've been drinking close to 5-6Ltr in the space of 4-5Hrs :shock: .
Question for the smart ones. Can that much water be bad for you :? :lol:

Possibly. There have been a number of marathon runners that have died through drinking in excess of fifteen litres, so six litres in five hours does sound rather a lot. So take it easy Ben ;).


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5-6 litres of water in 5 hours? No worries mate - done that trick with Marston's Pedigree and I was eventually none the worse for it and that stuff's 95% water :drink:

[jonboy]

I pity your liver :lol: .


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[wheelnut]

I did drink loads of water today, easily 3 liters. The threat of dehydration pretty obvious when I haven't passed near as much water as what I drank.

I just tried that, 7 pints of extra cold guiness and probably passed a couple of pints :P

[wheelnut]

And to agree with Lynn, its too hot for biking. Especially wearing full leathers and drinking 7 pints of guiness and people still get killed even though they are not dehydrated :P

[Stig]

I did drink loads of water today, easily 3 liters. The threat of dehydration pretty obvious when I haven't passed near as much water as what I drank.

I just tried that, 7 pints of extra cold guiness and probably passed a couple of pints :P

See, for me I get dehydrated drinking more. After a couple of pints my body seems to want to release a river. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Peter Henry]

You are taking in liquid Ben at the same rate as a drowning man does. Maybe consider wearing a lifebelt areound your person for a day or so. :wink:

[Stig]

I pity my wife having to sit in front of a huge pane of glass all day long in the bus. :shock:

I thought as I left my air conditioned office in the middle of the day and went out side for two minutes "damn, it's hot out here, I bet Jo's a little hot under the collar at the moment". I then went back into the office and had a nice hot cup of coffee to keep the chill off. :lol: :lol:

[Vtwinlover]

Ah Lyn I'm disappointed you decided not to share that. 'Twas quite a telling off :lol: :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ive summarised it. :wink: :P :twisted:

While I agree its daft not to wear protective gear, I respect peoples right to choose.

Your quite right Lyn F**k 'em i wont be visiting them after there skin grafts so what do i care :tongue:

Just as long as it doesnt interfere with my life in any way & i dont have to smell any rotting carcusses or strips of melted skin along the tarmac, no probs :smt020

I agree people get very hurt wearing protective gear too. I was just trying to point out that Sods Law dictates that the one time you go out in you pyjamas albeit riding sensibly is the one time that the car driver pulls across infront of you with no room to stop in time or you come round a bend to find a tractor over your side or you hit a diesel slick on a roundabout etc....

[Abyss]

It's a worry when the SV temp gauge reads 37degC before starting the engine!

lol i left my bike in the sun for a couple hours yesterday and i turned it on with 49C on the temp.

Time to switch back to a textile jacket. Mind, darylB, Abyss & me rode over to the pub at Ironbridge last night and after a while sitting outside by the river it got a bit cold for just a T shirt. We had some bloke on a R6 come and join us briefly to tell us about how he went round corners at 120mph :roll:

Yep its the first time this week that ive had to zip up my vents before setting off... was so nice! Tho that guy on the R6 didnt impress me, he spent all the time talking to us about how to kill himself :P

[muddycoffee]

I did drink loads of water today, easily 3 liters. The threat of dehydration pretty obvious when I haven't passed near as much water as what I drank.

I just tried that, 7 pints of extra cold guiness and probably passed a couple of pints :P

Try ****ing into a pint pot,
I think you will find that you are gossly underestimating your output.

[muddycoffee]

[quote=lynw]

Your quite right Lyn F**k 'em i wont be visiting them after there skin grafts so what do i care :tongue:

Just as long as it doesnt interfere with my life in any way & i dont have to smell any rotting carcusses or strips of melted skin along the tarmac, no probs :smt020

I agree people get very hurt wearing protective gear too. I was just trying to point out that Sods Law dictates that the one time you go out in you pyjamas albeit riding sensibly is the one time that the car driver pulls across infront of you with no room to stop in time or you come round a bend to find a tractor over your side or you hit a diesel slick on a roundabout etc....

It is very important that we retain the right to choose the standard of our clothing, the last thing we need is more government legislation forcing us to wear leather garments or whatever.

[lynw]

Your quite right Lyn F**k 'em i wont be visiting them after there skin grafts so what do i care :tongue:

Just as long as it doesnt interfere with my life in any way & i dont have to smell any rotting carcusses or strips of melted skin along the tarmac, no probs :smt020

I agree people get very hurt wearing protective gear too. I was just trying to point out that Sods Law dictates that the one time you go out in you pyjamas albeit riding sensibly is the one time that the car driver pulls across infront of you with no room to stop in time or you come round a bend to find a tractor over your side or you hit a diesel slick on a roundabout etc....

Which is precisely why I always wear my gear [even if it is draggin jeans] because you never know when youre going to find that patch of diesel even if you ride ultra cautiously in traffic. :D

But in part it also goes some way to what muddycoffee has just pointed out - we have enough nannying by the government as is, let alone take another one of our choices away.

End of day like you say as long as what they choose doesnt affect me then let them just get on with it and find out the hard way.

Personally I find riders who take pillions in inappropriate gear the ones I really dislike. Fine to make a decision about yourself but to risk someone elses skin/life given pillions usually fare worse in an accident than riders is downright irresponsible imho. But again not my business to say otherwise if its their choice.

Back on topic though - aside from Draggin jeans which were fine in Australian temperatures, I would recommend the Tuareg stuff from HG if they still do it.

[northwind]

[Question for the smart ones. Can that much water be bad for you :? :lol:


That's what kills ecstasy users, usually. Brain swells up, puts pressure on the brain stem, pop... It also causes argumentative posts about suspension on bike forums.

[carty]

Back on topic though - aside from Draggin jeans which were fine in Australian temperatures.

Sorry, bit OT, I have waterproof textiles as well as leathers but occasionally I wear jeans on short, dry rides and I have thought about getting some of the 'Draggin Jeans'. How many others use these and which style do people recommend? I quite like the look of the 'Traffic' ones, they look on the picture how I like my jeans to fit! I know it says they are kevlar lined but is this hard protection or does it just hold stitching together?

I'm particularly interested as me and the gf (fiance I should say!) are going travelling for a few months in October and I will be looking to rent some bikes in some places which could be quite hot! And could I put these in a backpack? Do they fold or roll like normal jeans?

Thanks in advance for any advice,
Cheers

[lynw]

To answer the water question:

Yes, its called water intoxication and causes hyponatremia which is where the sodium in your body gets too diluted.

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blwaterintox.htm

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/health/hlive/eat/articles/0,,181168_588681,00.html

http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugxtc1.html

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s904374.htm

Google is my friend :wink: :P :lol:

[JediGoat]

same here! although my head was slowly cooking in my lid :?

Saw a fella coming down the A1 in London on Tuesday....didn't quite catch what bike it was (Ducati I think) as he passed me at around 60-70mph (on a 30mph stetch).

He was wearing jeans and t-shirt. I don't have a problem with that....it was the fact that he was wearing his helmet on his arm rather than his head.

I had to do a double take...at first I thought he was carrying a spare......but no. :roll:

Now that is stupid!

Jo

[21QUEST]

Possibly. There have been a number of marathon runners that have died through drinking in excess of fifteen litres, so six litres in five hours does sound rather a lot. So take it easy Ben ;) .
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5-6 litres of water in 5 hours? No worries mate - done that trick with Marston's Pedigree and I was eventually none the worse for it and that stuff's 95% water :drink:

You are taking in liquid Ben at the same rate as a drowning man does. Maybe consider wearing a lifebelt areound your person for a day or so. :wink:

[Question for the smart ones. Can that much water be bad for you :? :lol:


That's what kills ecstasy users, usually. Brain swells up, puts pressure on the brain stem, pop... It also causes argumentative posts about suspension on bike forums.

Hmm.. thanks for putting my mind at ease(not) :) , apart from Tildo that is as he is plainly nuts :lol: . I'm now suitably worried and shall definitely be pacing myself a bit better. It just sooooo darn hot.


As for you Northwind :smt019 :smt044

Cheers
Ben

[Professor]

I like riding in the rain

Weirdo!

I've ridden in the rain in the tropics (Dominican Republic). It is SO NICE!

[Lou M]

To answer the water question:

Yes, its called water intoxication and causes hyponatremia which is where the sodium in your body gets too diluted.

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/5/f/blwaterintox.htm

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/health/hlive/eat/articles/0,,181168_588681,00.html

http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugxtc1.html

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s904374.htm

Google is my friend :wink: :P :lol:


Owwww Lyn, your last line has just ruined it. I'd always considered you the font of all knowledge. :cry:

[21QUEST]

To answer the water question:

Good links

Google is my friend :wink: :P :lol:

Gracias. I must have be typing as when you posted. I'm even more worried now :)

It's just without drinking quite a bit a do get quite a horrible head ache and feel like I'm over heating and get quite irritable :roll:

Cheers
Ben

[Abyss]

Just got back from another ride (and 1st service) and had a couple very dodgy corners due to melted roads. Its annoying that the straights seem fine but corners are melting... Be careful out there peps!

[lynw]

To answer the water question:

Good links

Google is my friend :wink: :P :lol:

Gracias. I must have be typing as when you posted. I'm even more worried now :)

It's just without drinking quite a bit a do get quite a horrible head ache and feel like I'm over heating and get quite irritable :roll:

Cheers
Ben

I have had the same thing - dehydrated feeling and headache. Ive put mine down to migraines and the migraleve does seem to work on both for a bit. But certainly you need to cut back on the water intake. But thought Id mention this as it may also work for you too.

If you cant cut down on your water intake, make sure you take salt to replace the levels of sodium in your body so it doesnt cause problems with it being diluted.

Lou M, I didnt have to google to know about too much water is bad - twas in the paper a week or so back when a kid died from it. :( Just googled for some reading links to expand on it for Ben. :wink: :P :lol:

[$tevo]

That's what saved me then - I never drink without having a bag or two of dry roast nuts or some crisps - helps to soak it all up too and keeps me going until I can get my nan doner fix :drunken:

[xrphil]

I was amazed to be passed (in me pickup) on the A1(m) by a guy on a naked bmw, he was nearly as naked as the bike, a pair of light flowery pair of shorts, and tee shirt. doing about 80. mad as a march hare.
i`ve come off going slower and had to throw everything i was wearing!
for him that would be his skin then.

[Razor]

We saw a bloke today in shorts, flip flops and tee shirt on a NC30. We tried to catch him in the focus so we could shout "skin graft!" but he was too quick for the oil burner.

[Vtwinlover]

I was amazed to be passed (in me pickup) on the A1(m) by a guy on a naked bmw, he was nearly as naked as the bike, a pair of light flowery pair of shorts, and tee shirt. doing about 80. mad as a march hare.
i`ve come off going slower and had to throw everything i was wearing!
for him that would be his skin then.

I'm gonna save Lynw the trouble of replying to xrphil

You can't call people mad march hares :albino: just because they don't conform to your right wing views on responsible riding gear. :P

[lukemillar]

Depends what I'm doing really. If I'm out rding for enjoyment, then I wear full leathers whatever the weather.

However coming into work/town, I tend to swap my leather trousers for jeans. Still wear leather jacket, gloves and boots whatever, but walking around and generally doing something sociable - wearing leather trousers is just horrible. Bear in mind though that I live in London and my average speed is probably about 20mph! (cue abuse about the dangers of jeans + 20mph + tarmac)

[Demonz]

Long Kevlar Lycra Undies - now that would be good for a day like today :sunny: With SPF30 protection and Ram Air built in :D

[Abyss]

Today was quite nice for biking, randomly overcast every so often but even when sun was out there was still a cooler breeze when moving.

[Daimo]

Im a believer of the correct clothing... :)

I "was" wearing (I say was, see sig) leathers, boots, textile jacket, t-shirt, summer gloves and bash hat.

Central London, London Bridge, stuck with the sun blairing down, bus to my left plus exhaust under my nose, car to my right, usually by the engine. SV engine idling under my nether regions, sweat pouring from my forehead... Mmmmmmmmmm :lol:

Still, once moving, quickly cool off. Textile jacket is good as i can have the inside zip halfway down and the outer zip done up to just below my neck. Ample cooling :)

[Biker Biggles]

I've just got back from holiday in Portugal,not on a bike,and there was a big bike rally in Faro.Thousands of bikes and only a tiny minority were wearing much in the way of protective clothing.From what I saw,the Brits and Germans tend to wear the gear and the rest ride in shorts and T shirts.I know Portugal has one of the worst road safety records in Europe,but does anyone know how this breaks down for bikers?
Nice place for a holiday BTW with great weather aided by cooling breezes off the Atlantic.A degree or two cooler than the British heatwave. :D

[Jdubya]

I've just got back from holiday in Portugal,not on a bike,and there was a big bike rally in Faro.

Heading to the Algarve in October with the famiy as well...
Where did you stay? We're booked into a resort called villa da golf(?) I think. The wifes made all the arrangements :lol: :lol:

[Biker Biggles]

We flew to Faro,hired a car and stayed in Lagos which is about fifty miles up the coast.Lagos is a working fishing port as well as a tourist resort,and is great for beaches and boat trips to the caves and dolphin watching.Great food if you like fish and easy access by car to anywhere in the Algarve.I was a bit rusty on driving a left hooker on the wrong side of the road but it all comes back and I did'nt hit anything :) Prices are similar to here and cheaper than rip off London if you avoid the obvious tourist traps.Seagulls are violent,just like British ones. :D

[Scooby Drew]

Although I believe in free choice, I would still like to stop anyone stupid enough to not wear the correct gear, and punch them in the face. Not taking proper precautions increases our insurance premiums and makes bikers look even more like irresponsible idiots in the eyes of the public who have a low opinion of us already.

As a side note, when I presented myself at A&E in my full kit (cos I was too sore to get it off when I got home & it was basically holding all the bits together :D ) the doctor complimented me on beig fully kitted out, noted every single item in the medical records and told me that if I had not been wearing a back protector, I would have been lying on the side of the road coughing up blood due to a punctured lung, instead of riding my bike home and then proceeding to the hospital in an orderly fashion :wink:

Another side note - taking passengers without proper gear is a crime worthy of a firing squad.

IMHO of course

[Stig]

Although I believe in free choice, I would still like to stop anyone stupid enough to not wear the correct gear, and punch them in the face. Not taking proper precautions increases our insurance premiums and makes bikers look even more like irresponsible idiots in the eyes of the public who have a low opinion of us already.

As a side note, when I presented myself at A&E in my full kit (cos I was too sore to get it off when I got home & it was basically holding all the bits together :D ) the doctor complimented me on beig fully kitted out, noted every single item in the medical records and told me that if I had not been wearing a back protector, I would have been lying on the side of the road coughing up blood due to a punctured lung, instead of riding my bike home and then proceeding to the hospital in an orderly fashion :wink:

Another side note - taking passengers without proper gear is a crime worthy of a firing squad.

I had full kit on, including a back protector, and I WAS lying on the side of the road coughing up blood because of a punctured lung. :roll:

[Scooby Drew]

yada yada

I had full kit on, including a back protector, and I WAS lying on the side of the road coughing up blood because of a punctured lung. :roll:

And if you hadn't been? :?

[Stig]

yada yada

I had full kit on, including a back protector, and I WAS lying on the side of the road coughing up blood because of a punctured lung. :roll:

And if you hadn't been? :?

I wouldn't be writing this :wink:

[dooley]

Scooby - You're entitled to your opinion of course, as are the car drivers who think bikers are stupid for riding bikes in the first place.

[Scooby Drew]

Scooby - You're entitled to your opinion of course, as are the car drivers who think bikers are stupid for riding bikes in the first place.

Quite :lol: :lol: Sorry, shouldn't drag car drivers into this, it just muddies the waters. :lol:

[Soul Reaper]

It never gets too hot for me to ride. The call of the road pulses too strong within my veins :twisted: .

It is the colder weather that dampens my enthusiasm. I always wear a ventilated Pilot Airmax jacket with ventilated armoured gloves and BMW touring boots. Would like to get Draggin jeans.

I get the cold chills when I see school kids blasting past me wearing a t-shirt and shorts. But hey, I also honour free will ... except those of my pilllions :) .

Keep it on 2 wheels!

[600+]

Coming from a country (Greece) where protective gear is not worn as much as in the UK I have come to the conclusion that its a matter of bike mentality.

Here in the UK the bike is not used as much as back home, weather here most of the time requires you to wear waterproof gear so it goes hand in hand with wearing some gear in general.

Plus distances travelled here are considerably longer than back in Greece. Try riding around town in 40C wearing all protective gear:):) U'd be soaking wet within 2mins! Hence it's the practicality of the thing as well.

Bare in mind though that the bikers I know of back home to wear protective gear when going on trips etc etc.

Could it be that in Faro the guys had camped just around the corner or were just riding around town?

By no means I would consider riding without protective gear in the UK but when riding back home around town i only wear my helmet and ride in T-shirts. Maybe not safe but tell me any other way you would be able to ride for 10mins in 40C then ride again for another 15mins then again etc etc.

Maybe we need some real summer gear from all these companies out there?

[robz400]

I can't understand why you get so upset about people not wearing leathers on a bike.

In this heat i will often ride in jeans/t-shirt. But i ride at no more than about 40mph and just enjoy the sensation of being on a bike. If it wasn't law i'd probably leave my lid at home for trips to the shop etc. I go faster on my mountain bike and no ones complains about shorts etc on that.

[Vtwinlover]

I can't understand why you get so upset about people not wearing leathers on a bike.

I go faster on my mountain bike and no ones complains about shorts etc on that.

I can see your point, you wouldn't expect to see the Tour de France riders in a full race suit would you. But when they do come off it aint pretty.

[TC3]

Had my first off in 3 years of riding, 6 weeks ago and up to then i would sometimes ride in normal jeans and on vary rare hot days did ride in trainers and once in a t shirt. Today was the first day since that off i as well as the bike were fit enough to go for a ride. I wore the Hood jeans, boots, gloves and leather jacket that i was wearing the day i went down. All the left side of these items are heavily scuffed as thats the side i went down on. They saved my skin
My mate who has been riding a year was with me when i had my off. What i do not understand is why he rode to work in jeans and t shirt on the M25 everyday to work after seeing the injuries i got as well as the scuffing of my gear. All these peeps that ride in t shirts and some in shorts are living in a fantasy world thinking they wont have an off....over confidence i say.
Yes the choice is down to the individual what they choose to wear and if they wont to learn the hard way....

[TC3]

I can't understand why you get so upset about people not wearing leathers on a bike.

In this heat i will often ride in jeans/t-shirt. But i ride at no more than about 40mph and just enjoy the sensation of being on a bike. If it wasn't law i'd probably leave my lid at home for trips to the shop etc. I go faster on my mountain bike and no ones complains about shorts etc on that.

I was doing less than that and ended up with broken rib and messed up shoulder and that was without hitting any objects. Come off at that speed and i bet you will be saying different things :roll:

[Warren]

I can't understand why you get so upset about people not wearing leathers on a bike.

In this heat i will often ride in jeans/t-shirt. But i ride at no more than about 40mph and just enjoy the sensation of being on a bike. If it wasn't law i'd probably leave my lid at home for trips to the shop etc. I go faster on my mountain bike and no ones complains about shorts etc on that.

I was doing less than that and ended up with broken rib and messed up shoulder and that was without hitting any objects. Come off at that speed and i bet you will be saying different things :roll:

i came off at 40 mph, my jeans and trainers held up better than my bike jacket you know :)

[creamerybutter]

Not taking proper precautions increases our insurance premiums

I don't really think people not wearing full gear is going to really affect insurance premiums it's not as if leathers stop PI claims.

I ride is Jeans a lot (it's the only bit where I don't wear proper kit) around town in this weather as if I were to ware my leathers I would be so hot it affects my concentration. I have come of twice around town in jeans and neither time did the wear through although the peg did rip a hole in the shin so it was a good job my sidi's have shin guard bits. If I go any distance or at higher speeds I do wear my leathers though.

[5v5 rider]

I'm lovin the heat!!! yeah its just a bit on the 'sweaty' side but still prefer to be on the bike than stuck on the A40 every morning in heavy traffic. The only thing is when I was done workin for the day last week I got home and was absolutely swelterin and was in quite a rush to get the gear off, got me helmet off - check- undid jacket - check - BUT I made the mistake of taking my gloves off using my teeth to hold the finger ends and theoretically pull the glove off, BUT it was then that I felt a 'crack' in my mouth. I'd fractured 2 of my front teeth at the gum line - so.... £350 dentist bill to get crowns n that!!! So theres a lesson 4 U all, get the wife to hold it in her teeth instead - hence your own teeth will be a o k...LOLOL
But seriously, I hate anythin to do wiv me teeth and I also hate goin to the dentist. Anyway back onto thread - very hot but still 'im lovin it!'