View Full Version : R&G's are they worth it.
It's over £100 for the R&G's I want - Pointy with Lower Fairings.
Are they worth it?
At least it might save me spending £105 on a Lower fairing mounting kit.
I don't imagine it would be possible getting exactly the model I want with all the fittings secondhand either on this site or eBay.
Thanks
Khewett
21-07-06, 02:41 PM
R&G's have saved my bike from major damage twice ounce falling off its stand and a lowslide!
Worth every buck!
My bungs were £70 fitted. Haven't stacked yet but they'd easily cover their own cost in damaged saved if you had a spill.
Just don't do and flip the thing and you'll love them. :p
There were 2 versions of the SV R&G bungs, the older type had a nylon bung that screwed into a metal cup on each side, these tended to just pop out n a crash. The newer ones use a metal bolt through the nylon bung and are better. Do a search for "crash bungs" and you should find people's comments and votes on the various brands.
My bungs were £70 fitted.
How come? you have the same bike and R£G site says £102 inc. vat & delivery
mine didnt do me much good, but i have a different bike.
Mr Toad
21-07-06, 03:34 PM
Have a word with Steve Jordans, they should be able to source some for you for less than £102, unless R&G have put their prices up
Sid Squid
21-07-06, 03:40 PM
I think there are better products for less money.
I think there are better products for less money.
What would you recommend for a K3 with lowers?
G - renamed
21-07-06, 03:46 PM
My personal impression of R&Gs is that they are a bit /too/ sacrificial - they are 'one use' and in some cases do damage the fairings they are protecting.
The very solid ones on my minitwin I have been quite impressed with so far.
fizzwheel
21-07-06, 03:59 PM
I think there are better products for less money.
What would you recommend for a K3 with lowers?
Northwind always recommends a US product called "Motosliders". He likes them much better than R & G's and he oughta know.
The one thing I think the R & G's have in their favour is the new style ones dont involve having to cut your fairing to get them to fit.
muffles
21-07-06, 04:20 PM
i have a k3, lowers, and R&Gs...didn't cost me £100+, i think about £80 (maybe £75) and fitted myself! only ever tested them once, was on an incline and came to a stop, bike started to go over, held it up for a bit at 45 degrees then fell off :P
no damage apart from some extra scratches on the mirror and (unfortunately!) a broken gear change lever. i bought a new one for £38 odd from a dealer, but i could have repaired it with the old drill n bolt method that's been mentioned a few times on here...
Anyway, i think they're worth it.
lukemillar
21-07-06, 04:23 PM
I think there are better products for less money.
Maybe so, but do the come with stickers!?
I think there are better products for less money.
Maybe so, but do the come with stickers!?
Brilliant :winner:
The one thing I think the R & G's have in their favour is the new style ones dont involve having to cut your fairing to get them to fit.
This is quite important to me if it means I can get away without fairing mounts. Are there any others that don't require cutting?
I think there are better products for less money.
Don't keep us in suspenders :?
ianofbhills
21-07-06, 04:55 PM
If you decide your gonna go for the r&gs i have a set of the bottom brackets for the lower fairings i'll send you.
I read in another post you wanted to know if you could just use the r&g's to attach the middle of the fairing saving you purchasing the fitting kit for the brackets.
Yep you can do that and i'll send you the brakets you need for attaching the bottom of the fairing lowers at the back then all you will need is a bolt for the radiator attachment and some of those push pin rivets for joining the two halfs in the middle.
if you want them pm me your address.
Ian
My bungs were £70 fitted.
How come? you have the same bike and R£G site says £102 inc. vat & delivery
I don't know, my dealer just ordered them with my bike. Straight from the catalogue, £70.
Put it this way, almost anything is better than nothing. (The almost is for those of you that will come up with a 'no they might damage...' type of comment)
My bungs were £70 fitted.
How come? you have the same bike and R£G site says £102 inc. vat & delivery
I don't know, my dealer just ordered them with my bike. Straight from the catalogue, £70.
Put it this way, almost anything is better than nothing. (The almost is for those of you that will come up with a 'no they might damage...' type of comment)
wasnt there 2 kinds of the R and G, they released an updated version or something ?
I highly recommend R&G crashbungs as they have saved me money on quite a few occasions! I chucked my K3 SV down the road, up the road and toppled over :oops: and each time the crash bungs protected my fairings.
wasnt there 2 kinds of the R and G, they released an updated version or something ?
Not sure, but they'll do the job. Just don't crash it and you won't have to find out! :D
bikerskez
21-07-06, 05:41 PM
Got mine from Hein Gerike, under £100 and don't take long to fit.
donkeykong
22-07-06, 12:01 AM
It's over £100 for the R&G's I want - Pointy with Lower Fairings.
Are they worth it?
At least it might save me spending £105 on a Lower fairing mounting kit.
I don't imagine it would be possible getting exactly the model I want with all the fittings secondhand either on this site or eBay.
Thanks
I paid 92 or 94 (beer brain) for a set for a k6 pointy with lowers, back in may, straight off the R&G site.
I have a K5 with lowers and the R&G kit was 90 quid. Have dropped the bike at a standstill and no damage except for a few marks on the bar end and mirror. Have come of the bike at about 35mph and the bolt holding the crash bung snapped on impact and ripped a hole in the lower fairing. Other damage was a badly scratched up front fairing , mirror and bar end as well as ripped hand crip. The bung did take the inital impact and there was no marks at all on the bike frame or rear of the bike.
Just putting my bike back together this weekend as i been recovering and after 5 weeks of the road am hoping i do not test the bungs any time soon!
kwak zzr
22-07-06, 08:09 AM
i should think most bungs would fail at a 35mph slide their there just to minimize the damage, i think there defo worth having for the cost evan if you just lay your bike on its side because of lost balance(most ppl i know have done this) got to be a cheap £100 really it can cost in excess of this to have a scratched panel re painted.
I have the older type R&G ones. I had a slow speed spill recently and the bung had been half ripped out of the cup. I mean we are talking max of 10 mile an hour here. It did it's job, but only just.
Any further slide and I am quite sure it would have just come right out.
They are good though if the bike just gets knocked over at stand still. So if you have them fitted, don't ride your bike and you will be fine.
I got mine very cheap, and they were better than the ones I had on before (you know, the invisible ones).
Have a look at my photos of damage caused by a hit and run in this thread http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=42193
I think R&Gs are worth it and I'll be fitting a replacement set ASAP.
I have R&G's on the gsxr and seem pretty good but not tested them in anger.
I had bike sliders on my SV which I had tested several times and rate them very highly, doing a quick search I cant find them anymore so they may have stopped trading :?
kwak zzr
22-07-06, 09:02 AM
Have a look at my photos of damage caused by a hit and run in this thread http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=42193
I think R&Gs are worth it and I'll be fitting a replacement set ASAP.
they dont seem to have saved much really? i expected alot less damage.
Have a look at my photos of damage caused by a hit and run in this thread http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=42193
I think R&Gs are worth it and I'll be fitting a replacement set ASAP.
they dont seem to have saved much really? i expected alot less damage.
Well the rear fairing, radiator, grab handle, belly pan, frame, engine and fork leg are all untouched.
SV650Racer
22-07-06, 11:32 AM
R&G's are the dogs...they have saved my race SV from alot of expensive damage over the years. I even have a picture of the bike sliding up the track at over 50mph and the only part touching the floor was the left hand bung and bar end..i was the one that came off worse!.
Of course there will be cases where they wont save everything..thats the nature of the beast...but so far excellent product...and the cost far outweighs the cost if you drop your bike without.
northwind
22-07-06, 07:40 PM
i should think most bungs would fail at a 35mph slide their there just to minimize the damage
Nah, in a slide from far higher speeds a good bung should survive- if they hit something, kerb or pothole, then all bets are off but they're designed to fail if they hit something hard enough anyway (otherwise, they'd likely cause damage). I used to have the old design R&Gs, the terminalyl flawed ones, and they were brilliant when I did use them- a 70mph crash on track down a straight and into the gravel saw me replace only the front brake lever (which broke, but was a rubbish pattern one, OEM would have survived I'm sure), bar end, crash bung, rear brake lever (which was ground down, but not broken, still perfectly usable) and rear pillion peg. Oh aye, and rear subframe, but that was just because I'm pernickety
Then again, other people had them fail when their bikes fell off their stands- they were unreliable but when they worked they were ace. Motosliders offer exactly as much protection without the high fail rate, which is why I use them now- they're also cheaper.
However, I'm unimpressed with the new R&Gs. It's an excellent design, but the bungs are just too flexy. I slid mine from about 30mph, no massive impact, and the bung bent flat. I've seen them pull out entirely in similiar crashes. They use a very similiar design on other models but with a wider base on the bungs, which would give them considerably more strength. Then, the replacement parts are stupidly expensive- something like £10 per bolt, £20 per bung, plus £7 p&p. And they will always need replaced after a sliding drop, I think. So I sold them on...
But, they're the only ones that work without cutting fairing lowers that aren't just utterly crap, so that's a big plus mark.
im gonna have to say no, as they didnt do anything to protect my bike,
but i do have a CBR.
Tested my R&G today , let the bike drop on a uphill U turn , really need to practise low speed handling :oops:
Only damage was the bent shift lever and some minor scratches on the handlebar !
They are expensive , but they did the job , and they are the best looking crash bungs 8)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/473/dsc00065pu9.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00065pu9.jpg)
Tested my R&G today , let the bike drop on a uphill U turn , really need to practise low speed handling :oops:
Only damage was the bent shift lever and some minor scratches on the handlebar !
They are expensive , but they did the job , and they are the best looking crash bungs 8)
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/473/dsc00065pu9.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00065pu9.jpg)
yep and your insurer might reduce your premium, my renewal just went down by £20
Yep ive tested my R&G's twice (gently) and both times have proved their worth :)
Quiff Wichard
23-07-06, 08:15 PM
DONT get them from the R and G site-
they charge you a delivery charge-
go to your dealer- £70..!!
Jonooffler
26-07-06, 09:17 AM
I have the R+G bungs on a K3 and love, them the last owner didn't have them. Which is why I had to buy a new tank, side panel,fairing frame, screen, foot peg and gear lever,mirror,bar ends,grab rail and some paint. Belive me these all these parts cost much less than £70.00 ( well that's what I told the wife ). If you get them off the R+G site they are alot more money as you say £102.00 that due to a high postage charge. Try giving Fowlers a ring they sell them at about £75.00 mine came from a local shop and only cost £70.00.
Money well spent they might not help with a big off, but slow speed or parking drop these will save you sh*t loads of money.
Jono
Silver SV650S K3 Evo tech tail, Rear hugger,DB screen,Nikko Gpack,R+G bungs
Well worth the money in my book, R&G's saved my bike from major damage to the panels and lowers on my bike the other week when I managed to rear-end a VFR :oops:
muffles
26-07-06, 07:13 PM
:x somebody obviously read this thread as i came back to the car park after work and somebody's unbolted and taken one of my crash bungs!!!! i am so mad!! :compcrash:
:x somebody obviously read this thread as i came back to the car park after work and somebody's unbolted and taken one of my crash bungs!!!! i am so mad!! :compcrash:
Wow, and R&G charge £20 per bung. I think have a old slightly scuffed one I think from when I dropped it on the drive.
:x somebody obviously read this thread as i came back to the car park after work and somebody's unbolted and taken one of my crash bungs!!!! i am so mad!! :compcrash:
Wow, and R&G charge £20 per bung. I think have a old slightly scuffed one I think from when I dropped it on the drive.
they tried to charge me 45 quid for a bung (without the screws, just bung) at the ally pally show this year, yet my bung is smaller than an SV bung.
muffles
27-07-06, 07:23 AM
cheers law but i'll probably go for a new one - i need the screw too, anyway - not sure if you have that!
£20 for a piece of rubber...bloody hell.
muffles
27-07-06, 08:37 AM
ok, some news!
so, i had a service last week where they also drilled out a snapped exhaust stud and re-tapped it.
for this, they'd have taken off the fairing...i.e. removed the crash bung...so in case i was just being paranoid, i thought i'd check with them if in fact they forgot to put it back on and i just hadn't noticed (unlikely as i checked the bike over before i left the garage).
they said they'd actually taken off the other fairing...but said they'd give me a free crash bung as a gesture of goodwill! i didn't even say they did it, i just asked and said i'd noticed it was missing and wanted to see if they'd left it off by accident!
so, thumbs up to metropolis greenwich...they did a good job on the bike as far as i can tell, too...
p.s. this pretty much definitely means someone stole it, grr (winds me up no end, that does). going to question the car park people today...
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