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I completely agree with Razor
Carry on
UlsterSV
09-09-06, 08:14 PM
Stu, you've taken that out of context. I've included what preceded Mr Henry's comment...
90% of the time I don't really know what I'm talking about
:lol:
Peter Henry
09-09-06, 10:04 PM
Ulster.... :thumbsup:
Time will come, all will agree with me. I'm like frikkin' Yoda.
philipMac
10-09-06, 01:55 AM
Interesting avatar Ulster.
http://www.livesoccertv.com/images/articles/dicanio.jpg
Filipe M.
10-09-06, 11:11 AM
I'm like frikkin' Yoda.
Wrinkled and green? :lol:
I'm like frikkin' Yoda.
Wrinkled and green? :lol:
Sense the dark side causes this one to take the **** I do...
UlsterSV
10-09-06, 12:14 PM
Interesting avatar Ulster.
http://www.livesoccertv.com/images/articles/dicanio.jpg
Think you must be seeing things because that's not my avatar and it never has been.
Supervox
10-09-06, 04:38 PM
Interesting avatar Ulster.
http://www.livesoccertv.com/images/articles/dicanio.jpg
Think you must be seeing things because that's not my avatar and it never has been.
EDIT : Comments removed by Supervox due to info rec'd by another forum member.
Interesting avatar Ulster.
http://www.livesoccertv.com/images/articles/dicanio.jpg
Think you must be seeing things because that's not my avatar and it never has been.
It was something like it though - a close up perhaps?
Peter Henry
10-09-06, 06:08 PM
Super..Despite the history lesson and the fact that Lazio are a team based in Rome. Anyone knows that Di Canio was saluting to the Ultra Right faction of the home support whose ranks he grew up amongst.
Ulster's avatar is some fighting dude if I remember correctly?
I'm like frikkin' Yoda.
Wrinkled and green? :lol:
Sense the dark side causes this one to take the p*ss I do...
superb :lol:
UlsterSV
10-09-06, 07:34 PM
My original avatar of Di Canio (which I changed before philipMac's post) was of him with his shirt off after a match.
Di Canio is a Roman. He played for Lazio which is a Roman club. They are supported by Romans. Di Canio liked to greet his fellow Romans with the Roman salute.
I deliberately didn't use the image philipMac has posted. If I did he would have been the first to spit the dummy out and I didn't deem it worth the hassle.
philipMac
11-09-06, 02:46 AM
Ha ha. Yeah. Not really spitting out the dummy, more I am a bit slow on the uptake. I just caught the thread going on in Ulster's avatars, and I thought it would be good to have his previous avatar saluting the present team logo one.
You had the "If official documents existed that helped prove the holocaust happened, there is no way in hell they'd have been kept quiet this long. " quote.
Then we were treated to a nice wet upper body shot of our friend Mr Di Canio, who likes to do secret special salutes toward the Lazio Ultras, who like to bring swastikas etc to games.
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,553663,00.jpg
I dunno. I just got the pattern. *Shrug*
UlsterSV
11-09-06, 02:51 PM
I dunno. I just got the pattern. *Shrug*
Aww that's super. Gold star for Philip! =D>
It's funny because the only person posting Nazi material is you.
So will you be stalking me in every thread I post in?
I dunno. I just got the pattern. *Shrug*
Aww that's super. Gold star for Philip! =D>
It's funny because the only person posting Nazi material is you.
So will you be stalking me in every thread I post in?
Have you EVER made a constructive comment in your time on this forum? Because Im struggling to think of one occasion you have.
And while you may not have posted Nazi material in this thread, trust me some of us arent going to forget your Nazi apologist efforts in other threads. Thats the same as posting Nazi material particularly when its nothing more than neo-nazi propaganda.
No doubt you have some spare vitriol nicely lined up for me too. :roll:
fizzwheel
11-09-06, 04:07 PM
So will you be stalking me in every thread I post in?
No thats adburns job...
UlsterSV
11-09-06, 04:13 PM
So will you be stalking me in every thread I post in?
No thats adburns job...
Oh dear :shock: You think me and nutty could swap? I'll take adburn if she'll take philipMac.
fizzwheel
11-09-06, 04:15 PM
Oh dear :shock: You think me and nutty could swap? I'll take adburn if she'll take philipMac.
Possibly, you'd have to throw in a few cans of Irn Bru and maybe some "poof juice" as well though.
philipMac
11-09-06, 06:01 PM
Not sure how you define stalker Ulster. I have read a few of the things you have posted up in this forum, and seen your avatars.
From these posts I am getting the impression you are a slightly self obsessed facist. And a bit of a nutter.
Oh dear :shock: You think me and nutty could swap? I'll take adburn if she'll take philipMac.
Are u a chick? Wanna come and see my cottage? Its beautiful - real log fires, cliff top views, and room in the barn for two sv's.
UlsterSV
12-09-06, 04:46 PM
Why is it ok to question this (http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=44579/) historical event but not ok to question one that happened 60 years ago?
And why has our resident pseudo-intellectual lynw not branded everyone in that thread who doesn't believe the official version of what happened a Jihadist apologist? Surely it's all nothing more than al Qaeda propaganda?
Adburn...I'm not that kinda gal :wink:
Supervox
12-09-06, 05:42 PM
Why is it ok to question this (http://forums.sv650.org/viewtopic.php?t=44579/) historical event but not ok to question one that happened 60 years ago?
Perhaps because of quotes such as these :-
Julius Streicher - during his examination at The Nuremburg Trials :
The Jew always lives from the blood of other peoples, he needs such murders and such sacrifices. The victory will be only entirely and finally achieved when the whole world is free of Jews.
. . . he is the World Jew. And we know that the Jew must die.
. . . the German example after the German victory in World War II will also serve to bring about the destruction of the Jewish world tormentors on other continents.
Hans Frank (ruler of the General Governent in Poland) diary entry :
Of course, I could not eliminate all lice and Jews in only a year's time. But in the course of time: and above all, if you will help me, this end will be attained.
From a report by Adolf Eichmann :-
Approximately 4 million Jews had been killed in the various concentration camps, while an additional 2 million met death in other ways, the major part of which were shot by operational squads of the Security Police during the campaign against Russia.
Various quotes from the Nuremberg Trials :
Some depositions speak of three to four thousand Jews who still remain in underground holes, sewers, and dugouts. The undersigned is resolved not to terminate the large-scale operation until the last Jew has been destroyed.
During July 1944, they were being liquidated at the rate of 12,000 Hungarian Jews daily, and as the cre-matory could not deaI with such numbers, many bodies were thrown into large pits and covered with quick lime.
The erection of this camp was closely connected with the German plans aiming at a complete destruction of. the Jewish population in Poland which necessitated the creation of a ma-chinery by means of which the Polish Jews could be killed in large numbers. Late in April 1942, the erection of the first three chambers was finished in which these general massacres were to be performed by means of steam. Somewhat later the erection of the real death building was finished, which contains ten death chambers. It was opened for wholesale murders early in autumn 1942.
Please note these are quotes DIRECTLY from defendants, witnesses & uncontested documents.
This is the last post of yours to which I will EVER reply as I have no time for IGNORANT C***S such as yourself !!
Peter Henry
12-09-06, 05:59 PM
Super...Very powerful stuff indeed. Only twisted minds could ever argue that the Holocaust did not occur. It has no baring whether you are anti Zionist or Pro Zionist the facts and records are totally compelling.
Although it was the Jewish people that suffered the greater number of losses, let us not forget that thousands of other ethnic and social groups were also persecuted by the Nazi regime.
Ulster I do not know what sources you use for reference but I personally feel that they are completely flawed or at least have a hidden agenda behind them. :?
UlsterSV
12-09-06, 06:10 PM
I know all of - or nearly all of - that to be untrue because I took the time to question it. Obviously others haven't. And this is the whole point. Questioning what we're told about 9/11 is fine, but questioning something that happened in Germany 60 years ago is now worse than mocking someone's religion.
philipMac
12-09-06, 07:02 PM
This is something that gets me too a bit Peter.
AFAIK, the # killed by the Nazi regime was more or less split 50% Jews, and 50% other (handicaped, homosexual, gypsies etc.) Stalin also killed monumental numbers of Jews, and others. More than Hitler AFAIK. Mao Ze-Dong killed vast numbers of Chinese. Something like 48 million. Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung... even the Turks killed enormous numbers of Armenians.
The list is long.
Everyone is very aware of the Jewish Genocide by Hitler, but people forget that there are plenty of others killed. Not that this makes that genocide any less obscene.
I sort of respect Ulster though. He has the right to ask questions, and not take things for granted, and think about things in his own way. I dont agree with him. I think he is a bit of a nutter, but his opinion is still valid. Some evidence would be nice maybe.
Anyway... yeah. Shocking weather these days eh?
I know all of - or nearly all of - that to be untrue because I took the time to question it. Obviously others haven't. And this is the whole point. Questioning what we're told about 9/11 is fine, but questioning something that happened in Germany 60 years ago is now worse than mocking someone's religion.
I was staying out of this but that and your earlier post gets this reply.
Its beyond me how you can presume no-one has questioned it, all because they dont come to the same conclusion as you. Thats pretty arrogant tbh.
I HAVE read the denial stuff - and for someone who can spot the "official propaganda" you seem to have missed out on the fact its nothing but neo-Nazi propaganda. And it is precisely because its neo-Nazi propaganda I dont believe it.
You believe it because it fits your views of things. I believe it because the evidence is overwhelming and suggests to believe otherwise is to believe the Nazi propaganda. It seems you are so anti government that you dont want to see holocaust denial as the propaganda you are so enthusiastic to accuse the rest of us of believing. Why is the holocaust denial info anything but propaganda by a group of bigots who want to rewrite history? :?
the white rabbit
12-09-06, 07:17 PM
I sort of respect Ulster though. He has the right to ask questions, and not take things for granted, and think about things in his own way. I dont agree with him. I think he is a bit of a nutter, but his opinion is still valid. Some evidence would be nice maybe.
Quite correct. Always good to have your views challenged. Then you revisit, re-examine in the light of the evidence, and either modify them or have them reinforced. That doesn't happen when everyone agrees or won't discuss 'taboo' subjects. Surely its an eye opener to see that not everyone believes that which most of us accept as fact. I'm all for freedom of speech, its freedom of ******** I can't stand :wink:
I'm all for freedom of speech, its freedom of ******** I can't stand :wink:
And lo was the Anti-Boxer Movement formed. Many were the supplicants turned away, for though they worn tighty-whiteys, they were only in it for the sport. :wink:
I'm all for freedom of speech, its freedom of ******** I can't stand :wink:
And lo was the Anti-Boxer Movement formed. Many were the supplicants turned away, for though they worn tighty-whiteys, they were only in it for the sport. :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
the white rabbit
13-09-06, 11:17 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: .
UlsterSV
13-09-06, 01:07 PM
From a report by Adolf Eichmann :-
Approximately 4 million Jews had been killed in the various concentration camps, while an additional 2 million met death in other ways, the major part of which were shot by operational squads of the Security Police during the campaign against Russia.
This report was used as official evidence at the Nuremberg trials. Except, it wasn't an official report by Adolf Eichmann. This was the hearsay evidence of Wilhelm Hoettl who claimed Eichmann said this. Eichmann himself always denied he ever said it.
From 1939 to 1945 Wilhelm Hoettl worked for German intelligence. This is what CIA records have to say about him:
"Toward the end of the war Hoettl managed through an intermediary to contact OSS in Switzerland. Despite the fact that OSS officials considered Hoettl dangerous, they believed he had useful information. First the OSS and then the U. S. Army CIC reportedly began to use Hoettl to ferret out remaining Nazi agents. Then Hoettl testified at the Nuremberg trials-for the defense-and worked for CIC. He also drew on unknown resources, possibly plundered Jewish assets which Kaltenbrunner had turned over to him, to set himself up nicely in postwar Austria, where he peddled intelligence to various customers, including the Gehlen organization. Simultaneously, he began to write books under a pseudonym about Nazi espionage. He was in frequent contact with Wilhelm Krichbaum, and he was, like Krichbaum, suspected of working for Soviet intelligence."
In 1952 US intelligence services cut all ties with him. They realised he was a bullsh*tter willing to sell his "information" to anyone who'd buy it. I've also read he was investigated by the SS in 1942 who concluded he should never have been allowed to join the SS at all. And yet this character's word was the driving force behind the 6 million figure.
Aren't reactions to alternative views interesting? You express an alternative view on 9/11 and you'll most likely be engaged in a rational debate. Express an alternative view on the holocaust and you'll be called names and have your motives questioned. Why? Why are we so much more attached to something that happened 60 years ago that none of us even lived through than we are about something that happened just 5 years ago that we did live through? Why can't we address the holocaust as objectively as we address 9/11?
Hey UlsterSV
Why not take a trip to somewhere like Germany or Austria?
They would be very interested in someone with views like you.
You could have years to carry on your spurious research just like David Irving discovered and do soap duty as well.
(Apols to everyone else but this holocaust denial stuff is now getting to me)
Anonymous
13-09-06, 05:17 PM
Why are we so much more attached to something that happened 60 years ago that none of us even lived through than we are about something that happened just 5 years ago that we did live through?
Because some of us have relatives who did live through it.
Because some of us had relatives who didn't survive it.
Because some of us have relatives who fought across the World to free those who suffered.
Because it must not happen again....anywhere.
Because you are a purblind and ignorant bigot whose views are similar to those who caused it to happen in the first place.
Biker Biggles
13-09-06, 05:54 PM
And there lies the problem,as it has happened again.In Russia,China,Cambodia,Rwanda and Yugoslavia to name a few.It happens quite often where people get too much power and thus become corrupt.We are close to it starting in Palestine and Iraq,and Zimbabwe is on the edge too.I don't agree with Ulster's denials either,but I would defend his right to express them,and I do feel that "The Holocaust"has so cornered the market in Human depravity these last 60 years that we run the risk of ignoring or accepting all the other abominations that are out there for all to see if we actually looked.
oi, back to the topic
Which was what? Oh yes...... gottit... :lol:
Didn't really have a subject when I started this except to highlight Peter agreeing with Razor, which he was probably hoping would go unnoticed.
I certainly didn't expect all this - but that's the beauty of the forum - somtimes so random.
except to highlight Peter agreeing with Razor, which he was probably hoping would go unnoticed.
Job done, now stop stirring up the Nazis...
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