View Full Version : Nekked, is it the way to be??
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 10:55 AM
I have bought yet another curvy SV (don't ask :roll:) ... a nekked one this time ... I have been riding it to work this week, my other SV is the faired model, this obviously is the unfaired.
The nekked one has handlebars instead of clip-on's, so the riding position is different, also less weight on the front due to no bulky fairing. It just feels a totally different bike .... I actually ride it differently too ...
A real bonus of a nekked bike is it keeps the speed down, anything over 60 and you get blown about a bit ... get to a ton and your lid is being rammed through your frontal lobe!!! :lol:
Bearing in mind speeding is physically uncomfortable, is having an unfaired bike the way to go?
Oh and will it make me more attractive to the opposite s3x?? :lol:
Bearing in mind speeding is physically uncomfortable, is having an unfaired bike the way to go? Yes... though I just plan to put risers on my S.
Oh and will it make me more attractive to the opposite s3x?? :lol: Having met you... no it won't :lol:
Mr Toad
22-09-06, 11:24 AM
A real bonus of a nekked bike is it keeps the speed down, anything over 60 and you get blown about a bit ... get to a ton and your lid is being rammed through your frontal lobe!!! :lol:
You can get used to it all too easily - I have no probs sitting at 80-90 all day on motorways.
I did go down the M3 to Southampton on Tueday in a bit of a hurry as my mum had been taken into hospital, and must have averaged over a ton for 60 miles or so - had a bit of a stiff neck when I got off the bike :shock:
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 01:20 PM
A real bonus of a nekked bike is it keeps the speed down, anything over 60 and you get blown about a bit ... get to a ton and your lid is being rammed through your frontal lobe!!! :lol:
You can get used to it all too easily - I have no probs sitting at 80-90 all day on motorways.
I did go down the M3 to Southampton on Tueday in a bit of a hurry as my mum had been taken into hospital, and must have averaged over a ton for 60 miles or so - had a bit of a stiff neck when I got off the bike :shock:
At 80ish my lid against my forehead is uncomfortable, at a ton it is unbearable!!! I just don’t know how you do it!!!
northwind
22-09-06, 01:30 PM
That depends on the lid, maybe? My old HJC was a killer on the faired bike at 100, but the Arai's comfy at, er, lets just say more and leave it at that :)
Warthog
22-09-06, 02:29 PM
It is a good way of keeping speed down and still feeling like you are having fun, but I want to go fast on the motorways, so naked is not the way forward for me. I find earplugs help me to go 80-95, otherwise the whistling is unbearable. Buffenting up to 100 is okish, but gives me a headache after too long stretches.
After a conversation with Warthog today, all I can say is I'm chuffed I bought the SVS.
I'm able to sit almost bolt upright happily on my private runway at silly speeds, almost no buffeting. Buffeting only really hits my shoulders/neck/head one you stray to around 120+.
(kmh officer, honest!)
socommk23
22-09-06, 02:39 PM
fairings are for pencil necked girls!
nekid all the way!
you get used to the speeds!
and yes you SHOULD be more attractive to the opposite sex.......but dead flies on your face stops that!!
weazelz
22-09-06, 04:19 PM
I have bought yet another curvy SV (don't ask :roll:) ...
*another* one? are you breaking it for the engine or smthng? I'll have the wheels off you if you are :-)
I've seen 2 naked blue SVs in the last two days (new and old shape) and I have to say I think they are the better looking when compared to the S model.
Gotta say that I think that a good lookin' naked bike (like the Hornet, for example) looks well cool, particularly when you see some poorly finished a cheap looking half-fairings on some bikes.
I think that you gat used to the wind-blast, but some bikes are better than others in this regard and it also has something to do with the shape/size of the rider.
I don't do much motorway riding so for me a naked bike is perfectly viable, and an upright riding position suits me, too.
But each to their own. Whilst I am tempted by something faired/half faired for my next bike (say a CBF1000 which has an upright postion and an effective half-fairing) I will probably go naked again. CB1300 appeals.
Naked bikes ...... love 'em.
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 05:56 PM
*another* one? are you breaking it for the engine or smthng? I'll have the wheels off you if you are :-)
I know … that’s like 3 I have now … I think I need help, I have gone SV crazzzzzzzy!!! :smt119 :lol:
My rationale (apart from slight insanity :lol:) was that I wanted it as a spare SV trackbike, so I could take it along to trackdays with my track SV. Mibbie even fit it with the wets so that I have an easy option on unsettled days? But mostly as a fallback if something went wrong with #1 bike.
But it seems a bit of a waste of this example … it like has a full MOT n stuff, think I am gonna flog it and get a crash damaged (cosmetic) SVS. After getting the Nekkid, I have found out there are a few subtle differences between the SV and the SVS too, like the 10mm longer swingarm.
Anyhow!!!! :lol: Has anyone fitted a ‘fly screen’ type thing to their nekkid???
Just keep your chin the tank and you'll be fine ;)
Steve W
22-09-06, 06:27 PM
But each to their own. Whilst I am tempted by something faired/half faired for my next bike (say a CBF1000 which has an upright postion and an effective half-fairing) I will probably go naked again. CB1300 appeals.
Naked bikes ...... love 'em.
Go for it! I very much agree each to their own but think most naked bikes look much better than most faired bikes and the CB1300 looks good and is a pleasure to ride even at private runway speeds...
I was just reading RIDE's latest edition which focuses on their 'Rider power' survey where they score naked bikes (along with faired) for wind protection and I want to scream:'If I thought it was important I wouldn't have bought a naked bike!; you might as well mark Wayne Rooney for good looks!'
And yes , okay I do take an 18.5 collar...
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 06:49 PM
Here's a pick of my nekkidness I took today :)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1212004/BlackSV6.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1212004/photo_hosting.html)
Nice, I do notice it's got a SVS rad. Did you get it cheap?
DanAbnormal
22-09-06, 07:00 PM
anything over 60 and you get blown about a bit ... get to a ton and your lid is being rammed through your frontal lobe!!! :lol:
Bearing in mind speeding is physically uncomfortable, is having an unfaired bike the way to go?
Hmm, can't say I've noticed this. Sure top end silly speeds are reduced but I've still had over 120 on a regular occurance (in suitable circumstances of course). 70 is like idling along and not much resistance to wind at all. (on my hornet which has no screen either). Maybe you are higher up on the SV? Ah who knows! :D
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 07:00 PM
Nice, I do notice it's got a SVS rad. Did you get it cheap?
Yes it does have a SVS rad, I bought it knowing it had been written off in a past life, but it has been fully repaired and passed several MOTs since!!!
It rides true, nothing (I can tell) is amiss. The engine/gearbox actually seems ‘tighter’ than my Blue 01 SVS (this is a 99) the odometer says 10k miles … I was dubious at first, but have to say by the 'feel' of the motor I might actually believe that!! :)
sv_dan - I am normal height ~5'10" and it is vicious over 80!! :lol: OGK FF3 lid if that makes a difference?
DanAbnormal
22-09-06, 07:06 PM
sv_dan - I am normal height ~5'10" and it is vicious over 80!! :lol: OGK FF3 lid if that makes a difference?
Hmm, I'm about 5'9 so not too much diff in height there. The only time I had real trouble with my lid (Roof LeMans) was when the speedo reached an indicated 150 on the Hornet.......visor flew off. That hurt. I have not done that speed since (140 though with a new lid and is not so bad). Disused runways are a hoot! 8)
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 07:13 PM
Hmm, I'm about 5'9 so not too much diff in height there. The only time I had real trouble with my lid (Roof LeMans) was when the speedo reached an indicated 150 on the Hornet.......visor flew off. That hurt. I have not done that speed since (140 though with a new lid and is not so bad). Disused runways are a hoot! 8)
Is the SV more 'sit-up-and-beg' or the clocks taller on the Hornet?
DanAbnormal
22-09-06, 07:16 PM
Is the SV more 'sit-up-and-beg' or the clocks taller on the Hornet?
Don't really know abou the unfaired SV, I had the S version but the Hornet position is a little more sporty than a Bandit, if that helps.
Blue_SV650S
22-09-06, 07:22 PM
Don't really know about the unfaired SV, I had the S version but the Hornet position is a little more sporty than a Bandit, if that helps.
The fairing and aftermarket screen on my SVS work really well, the SV is deffo a lot more 'sit-up-and-beg' than the SVS. (this is only an observation, not a complaint, at the end of the day it is that style bike).
I think I like the idea that you know when it is time to back off on the nekkid ... i.e. when your neck feels like it is gonna snap and ya forehead feels like a fatburd is sitting on it!!!! :lol:
Warthog
23-09-06, 04:12 PM
fairings are for pencil necked girls!
nekid all the way!
you get used to the speeds!
and yes you SHOULD be more attractive to the opposite sex.......but dead flies on your face stops that!!
Yes, I have gone 118 on my naked, and I have a brutal neck (headbanging helps a lot), but 60 miles EVERY day gets REALLY boring and uncomfortable! Andy McNab got used to his torture in Iraq, but it still didn't mean it was fun!
DanAbnormal
23-09-06, 04:16 PM
Yes, I have gone 118 on my naked, and I have a brutal neck (headbanging helps a lot), but 60 miles EVERY day gets REALLY boring and uncomfortable! Andy McNab got used to his torture in Iraq, but it still didn't mean it was fun!
Yeah, I only really get upto neck snapping speeds when trying to kee up with my mate on his Blackbird. :roll:
Blue_SV650S
24-09-06, 11:29 AM
so who has a 'fly screen' on their nekkid?
21QUEST
24-09-06, 12:31 PM
so who has a 'fly screen' on their nekkid?
Here you go :) .
It's sitting a little lower than it should due to mods etc but I should have another pic of on other bike later today.
Renthal Ultra-lows if you decide to keep the bike will let you go a bit faster :roll: :) . I'm a wuss but can sit comfortably at 90+ with them. With the originals or the taller Renthal bars, less comfortable for me at same sort of speed.
You could also get some used bars from other bikes which are lower or indeed with different bend.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9714/flyscreency9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Cheers
Ben
Blue_SV650S
24-09-06, 12:51 PM
Renthal Ultra-lows if you decide to keep the bike will let you go a bit faster :roll: :) . I'm a wuss but can sit comfortably at 90+ with them. With the originals or the taller Renthal bars, less comfortable for me at same sort of speed.
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Thats a point, my bike has some 'Micron' aftermarket bars on it ... wonder if that makes much odds? anyone got a shot of the standard bars?
here are my bars:-
http://upload4.postimage.org/1226367/bars.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1226367/photo_hosting.html)
ArtyLady
24-09-06, 12:53 PM
I dont ride a bike purely for speed, just love blatting round nice twisty A and B roads. I tend to avoid motorways etc because I just find them boring.
IMO a road bike should be unfaired (runs and hides :wink:) (although I spose fairings help if you do a lot of motorway miles) - I dont enjoy riding leaning foward its unatural to me- (years of dressage I spose :roll: )
I do have a little screen which really makes a difference and helps save my neck muscles when on the odd occasion I go a little faster - which I only really do for short periods of time :riding:
http://upload4.postimage.org/1226300/svfront.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1226300/photo_hosting.html)
21QUEST
24-09-06, 01:58 PM
Renthal Ultra-lows if you decide to keep the bike will let you go a bit faster :roll: :) . I'm a wuss but can sit comfortably at 90+ with them. With the originals or the taller Renthal bars, less comfortable for me at same sort of speed.
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Thats a point, my bike has some 'Micron' aftermarket bars on it ... wonder if that makes much odds? anyone got a shot of the standard bars?
Certainly do.
Here some pics of some bars I've tried lined up :roll: :oops: . A couple or so more I've tried not there but hopefull you get an idea.
From left SV1000, renthal ultra-lows, SV650(curvy), Honda hornet (99 or 2000).
I quite like the SV1000 one feels a lot more like clipons(just higher) without having to hold your stomach in :shock: but I do over all prefer feel of Alluminium bars :? .
Cheers
Ben
[http://upload4.postimage.org/1226915/barr1.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1226915/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1226919/BARR2.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1226919/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1226923/BARR3.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1226923/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1226927/BARR4.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1226927/photo_hosting.html)
instigator
24-09-06, 02:06 PM
I only really bought my renthals for aesthetic value...think the cross bar makes it look :thumbsup: No fly screen either....yet.
Like that bellypan Ben, wheres it from.
*goes back on topic*
I had my hornet indicating 140 at times and to be honest, it didn't feel that unstable nor unpleasant so I hope its the same on the sv.
Blue_SV650S
24-09-06, 02:33 PM
From left SV1000, renthal ultra-lows, SV650(curvy), Honda hornet (99 or 2000).
I quite like the SV1000 one feels a lot more like clipons(just higher) without having to hold your stomach in :shock: but I do over all prefer feel of Alluminium bars :? .
Thanks for that :thumright: :) My microns don't look overly high then, I am not sure I like the angle they sit back and down at. I like the position o fhte standard SVS cluipons, so you saying the SV1000 bars are aprox the same angle as SVS clipons (just higher??).
Ever trued some truly flat renthals?? 8)
21QUEST
24-09-06, 02:53 PM
Thanks for that :thumright: :) My microns don't look overly high then, I am not sure I like the angle they sit back and down at. I like the position o fhte standard SVS cluipons, so you saying the SV1000 bars are aprox the same angle as SVS clipons (just higher??).
Ever trued some truly flat renthals?? 8)
Yeah it's a combination of bend and height really. With regards the SV1000 bars I would say so. Mounted the angle of the SVS clipons are 10 degress and mounted the SV1000 bars are about 5 degrees.
I should be doing a fork oil change and a couple of other stuff today so I'll try and get a pic of the SV1000 bars on the 650.
Never tried the Renthal flat bars(not talking baout straight bars, right)
on the SV. Did use them on my Zephyr years ago and can't remember if I liked them or not :)
Cheers
Ben
Blue_SV650S
24-09-06, 04:18 PM
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Never tried the Renthal flat bars(not talking baout straight bars, right)
on the SV. Did use them on my Zephyr years ago and can't remember if I liked them or not :)
Cheers
Ben
Yeah, basically a pole :D
21QUEST
24-09-06, 06:27 PM
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Never tried the Renthal flat bars(not talking baout straight bars, right)
on the SV. Did use them on my Zephyr years ago and can't remember if I liked them or not :)
Cheers
Ben
Yeah, basically a pole :D
Nah , only the flat bars(two bends). I don't think I'll like them. If I got a free one maybe I'll try it and see. Apparently the flat bars feel like you are holding onto your fork legs :? so I'm thinking possibly give you two much information but of course like anything possible to get used to it.
Some more pics for you :roll: :lol: . First two are Renthal Ultr-lows and rest are SV1000. Not exactly clipons but definitely a bit more of a downward swoop compared to most pulling back towards you if that makes sense.
Sorry about the state of the bike. Proper 'working' bike like :P
http://upload4.postimage.org/1229475/RENT1.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1229475/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1229478/RENT2.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1229478/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1229488/OE1.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1229488/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1229492/OE2.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1229492/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1229502/OE3.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1229502/photo_hosting.html)
http://upload4.postimage.org/1229509/OE4.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1229509/photo_hosting.html)
Blue_SV650S
24-09-06, 06:46 PM
ta, might try and get some SV1000 ones then ... did you buy yours new or 2nd hand??? i.e. how much are they new?
21QUEST
24-09-06, 07:43 PM
ta, might try and get some SV1000 ones then ... did you buy yours new or 2nd hand??? i.e. how much are they new?
The SV1000 ones are off my own bike. They £44 new. If you are lucky :lol: I might have a renthal ultra-low(about 20mm cut off each side IIRC) and also SV1000 one up for sale.
The SV1000 I'll be looking for £25 delivered and the Renthal £15 delivered. I'll even send both to you to try out and just send the one you don't like back. You pay for your return postage of course :? :wink:
Cheers
Ben
Blue_SV650S
24-09-06, 08:26 PM
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The SV1000 I'll be looking for £25 delivered and the Renthal £15 delivered. I'll even send both to you to try out and just send the one you don't like back. You pay for your return postage of course :? :wink:
Cheers
Ben
do you have paypal?
21QUEST
24-09-06, 09:08 PM
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The SV1000 I'll be looking for £25 delivered and the Renthal £15 delivered. I'll even send both to you to try out and just send the one you don't like back. You pay for your return postage of course :? :wink:
Cheers
Ben
do you have paypal?
PM sent mate.
Cheers
Ben
21QUEST
24-09-06, 11:10 PM
Oh.... forgot to mention earlier that your forks seem to be set too low in the yokes. As standard you should have 6mm(not counting the cap) protruding through the top yoke.
Cheers
Ben
Blue_SV650S
25-09-06, 08:54 AM
PM returned :)
Well spotted, I'll drop the front down :)
21QUEST
25-09-06, 09:09 AM
Well spotted, I'll drop the front down :)
..and I didn't even go to Specs Savers :roll: :lol:
Cheers
Ben
arenalife
25-09-06, 12:14 PM
I think people are put off a naked because they're worried about the windblast, they think "bloody hell, my head is taking a pounding on my faired wotsit, let alone more of it".
Really though, your head is only getting so much because the fairing and screen are pushing it there! You'd be amazed how easy 70mph is on a naked, I find it the same or easier than my faired bike, there's no turbulence, buffeting and less noise. The neck doesn't have to do so much, your body just kind of relaxes to the wind.
Blue_SV650S
25-09-06, 12:24 PM
I think people are put off a naked because they're worried about the windblast, they think "bloody hell, my head is taking a pounding on my faired wotsit, let alone more of it".
Really though, your head is only getting so much because the fairing and screen are pushing it there! You'd be amazed how easy 70mph is on a naked, I find it the same or easier than my faired bike, there's no turbulence, buffeting and less noise. The neck doesn't have to do so much, your body just kind of relaxes to the wind.
Yeah, things are fine as long as you keep the speed down. One could argue that some slight wind on the torso/head will actually reduce the weight on the wrists making long journeys less painful?!
Blue_SV650S
26-09-06, 09:28 AM
Twiddled my bars round a bit, gives a more comfortable/natural hand position :)
Ok, so I am considering the streetfighter look ... who has streetfightered theirs??? Any pics??? :)
The Basket
26-09-06, 09:51 AM
Naked for comfy round town.
Fairing for speed, high speed comfy and putting weight on the front wheel.
northwind
26-09-06, 10:30 AM
Get the best of both worlds, clipons and naked- both uncomfortable and windy! Perfect!
Talking of fly screens, the Puig Windy (I think that's it's name) is a good one. Luke (Stormspiel) and my dad have both got one and they kind of have a bit of a double bubble thing going on.
There's a picture at Busters, although not a fantastic one see here (http://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=MP1482) although that picture doesn't do the screen any justice, it looks a load better in real life.
Blue_SV650S
26-09-06, 12:53 PM
Talking of fly screens, the Puig Windy (I think that's it's name) is a good one. Luke (Stormspiel) and my dad have both got one and they kind of have a bit of a double bubble thing going on.
There's a picture at Busters, although not a fantastic one see here (http://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=MP1482) although that picture doesn't do the screen any justice, it looks a load better in real life.
On a different note, Jase22, I like the angle of your can ... where did you get the link pipe to allow that angle?
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