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anyone know where i can buy a seat belt type helmet fasterner thingy?
My helmet has one, buty I would prefer if it had 2 D rings.
I find it loosens over time whereas with D rings you always tighten them each time.
Don't know if that's an option for you.
i have the Ds on my helmet.but prefer the seat belt type
wheelnut
29-09-06, 12:18 PM
I dont suppose it is a good idea to do a home made conversion. D Rings are a lot safer than clunk click types as they are adjusted properly.
I have an AGV with D ring and presstud fastener, When I tried a new Schoei with the D ring and plastic stud I couldnt get on with it
Hovi5, put your request in stuff wanted, someone may have a lid they are about to bin, if you offer to pay the postage they maybe pursuaded to cut the buckle off and send it to you. How you fit it and get good secure stitching is another problem.
SoulKiss
29-09-06, 12:36 PM
Hovi5, put your request in stuff wanted, someone may have a lid they are about to bin, if you offer to pay the postage they maybe pursuaded to cut the buckle off and send it to you. How you fit it and get good secure stitching is another problem.
This is a GOOD point.
The law states a "securely fastened" helmet.
A home stitch job may be considered an illegal modification to your lid (ie it is no longer secure.)
Get to love the D's or get a new lid with a buckle seems to be your options.
David
i have the Ds on my helmet.but prefer the seat belt type
the Ds are the safer option IIRC.
But you are seriously considering doing a DIY job on your helmet? That is one of the more silly things I've heard recently. :?
i have the Ds on my helmet.but prefer the seat belt type
That's what i thought so just wanted to point out that you may think it's easier than threading through - in reality you might end up wishing you still had D's
Hovi5, put your request in stuff wanted, someone may have a lid they are about to bin, if you offer to pay the postage they maybe pursuaded to cut the buckle off and send it to you. How you fit it and get good secure stitching is another problem.
done it
im sure snowy in town can sort it :wink:
Don't see the problem myself tbh, if you cut the stitching not the webbing to remove from the current helmet, double the webbing over and sew nice and securely, i cant see any reason not to. Beats buying a new helmet just to change the fastening mechanism. I wouldn't do it myself, but id get one of my more dexterous friend to sew it and be happy.
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i would get a cobbler to sew it on :wink:
Can I have your D's when you're finished with them :lol:
YEAH IF I CHANGE THEM opps shouting again i have the seat belt type on my trials helmet but dont want to cut it off (mybee i wont bother,ill see if i can get a good seat belt type 1st)
fizzwheel
29-09-06, 01:38 PM
umh.... Personally I dont think its a good idea to go cutting the D's off your helmet and then sewing a seat belt connector on. How do you know the stitching is going to survive a possible impact. How much stress is the new stitching going to cope with.
This is your head we're talking about not a good idea IMHO to take risks with this kind of thing, Be far better just to buy a lid from a reputable source with a seat belt connector on it rather than cutting and shutting your current lid.
Last thing you want in an accident is for your lid to come flying off because the new stitching fails and the lid strap comes undone.
Last thing you want in an accident is for your lid to come flying off because the new stitching fails and the lid strap comes undone.
i agree, guess i will stick with the Ds for now
SV1000s
29-09-06, 02:02 PM
i agree, guess i will stick with the Ds for nowThat would be a VERY good idea!
If you don't like the style then change your helmet, didn't you notice what kind of strap was on it when you tried it on?
When I did my CBT my instructor told us that his son was in hospital with serious head injuries after a crash. He'd been wearing a helmet with a seat belt type fastener, and when he came off something (bit of the bike, or his hand maybe, they'll never know for sure) hit the button and his helmet came off. I'm only gonna use D rings after hearing that story... :shock:
SV1000s
29-09-06, 02:06 PM
noNo?
Why ever not?
Not being funny fella but did you even try the thing on?
My father has brain damage following a bike crash that I witnesses, if his helmet was't fastened or fitting then he would be dead.
Don't **** around with you head mate...please, don't tell me you didn't even try it on...ebay?
SV1000s
29-09-06, 02:08 PM
When I did my CBT my instructor told us that his son was in hospital with serious head injuries after a crash. He'd been wearing a helmet with a seat belt type fastener, and when he came off something (bit of the bike, or his hand maybe, they'll never know for sure) hit the button and his helmet came off. I'm only gonna use D rings after hearing that story... :shock:Maybe then again how many dicks (in London anyway) that don't even do their buckles up.
The seatbelt type takes more effort than one would think.
I even told our pizza man to fasten his lid the other day.
BTW, if you get stopped for not having your helmet fastened then the charge is the same as if you were riding without a lid.
i got it with the bike :oops:
SV1000s
29-09-06, 02:10 PM
i got it with the bike :oops:Throw it away and get a new one...this weekend!
You have NO IDEA if it's been dropped, crushed or anything.
its a £400 helmet im not throwing it away
do plan on getting a new one soon though
What is the helmet? Arai, Shoei?
It was maybe a bit silly not to check the fastner if you have strong opinions about a particular type (for instance, I would never ever own a seat-belt one) but throw it away? If it came from a dealer I would have thought it would be ok.
fizzwheel
29-09-06, 02:16 PM
its a £400 helmet im not throwing it away
do plan on getting a new one soon though
Yes but you don't know its history, it could have been dropped or anything. Again dont take chances with your head. How much value do you put on your life.
It might be a £400 lid but if it doesnt fit properly or has been damaged it isnt going to protect your head in the event of an accident.
Arai's I believe can be sent back to Arai for inspection to check whether the helmet is OK... might be worth doing.
Does it fit your head properly ?
Am I being silly in assuming it wasn't checked in the shop? I would have thought that if you buy a bike and a lid from a dealer you would have tried the lid on first and not worry about where it had been.
Does it fit your head properly ?
i think so :oops:
When I did my CBT my instructor told us that his son was in hospital with serious head injuries after a crash. He'd been wearing a helmet with a seat belt type fastener, and when he came off something (bit of the bike, or his hand maybe, they'll never know for sure) hit the button and his helmet came off. I'm only gonna use D rings after hearing that story... :shock:
Mmm. Urban myth, scare story not sure, I imagine that putting D rings on would be cheaper for the manufacturer.
Anyway Hovi5 glad you've come around I didn't realise that you were planning a conversion, though it was for something else.
Does it fit your head properly ?
i think so :oops:
Did you get the bike and lid from a dealer? Did you try the lid on at the dealers?
SV1000s
29-09-06, 02:19 PM
Ok, it doesn't fit you, it was £400 maybe...(when new), it's been used before (I take it) and you have no idea if it's been dropped.
Recipe for disaster fella.
Listen to the boys and girls here that know a bit.
SV1000s
29-09-06, 02:21 PM
Does it fit your head properly ?
i think so :oops:Put it on your head and do it up. It should be snug but not tight, do the strap up and hold the helmet, try and move your head forward and back and then left and right (keeping the lid still) if your head moved more than 1/3 of an inch then I would say it doesn't.
http://upload4.postimage.org/1268910/dcp_2205.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1268910/photo_hosting.html)
like a glove
fizzwheel
29-09-06, 02:41 PM
Put it on your head and do it up. It should be snug but not tight, do the strap up and hold the helmet, try and move your head forward and back and then left and right (keeping the lid still) if your head moved more than 1/3 of an inch then I would say it doesn't.
This is good advice.
The only other thing I would suggest, is that you do all off the above, but get somebody else to hold the chin guard off your helmet and then try and move your head. If you can move your head around but the helmet stays still then your lid is to big for you.
You cant tell from a photo whether it fits or not.
its not to BIG it is a bit tight, but its ment to be....isnt it?
It is Arai - so you can get it sent off to be checked, ask in a bike shop.
(they're the only ones you can)
(sounds like it fits)
It is Arai - so you can get it sent off to be checked, ask in a bike shop.
(they're the only ones you can)
(sounds like it fits)
i will look into that 2moro,but i want a new one anyway(rossi rep) £130...any good?
ArtyLady
29-09-06, 03:34 PM
Now Im really paranoid about protecting my head (ive only got the one!) and Ive just bought a flip face Nolan lid (to replace my ancient old thing) which fits me really well is comfortable and Im really pleased with it and one of the other reasons I bought it is because it has the safety belt/rachet type fastener.
Should I be worried about this fastener :?
http://upload4.postimage.org/1269425/agvrossi.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1269425/photo_hosting.html)
£109
fizzwheel
29-09-06, 05:24 PM
I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times. A £50 lid that fits your head perfectly is better than a £500 lid that doesnt fit properly is to tight or is to loose.
I personaly dont like AGV's my brother had one and
1. It misted up something cronic
2. The visor didnt seal
3. It was noisy
4. After 6 - 7 months of every day use the cheekpads were so deformed that it didnt fit him properly anymore.
Liz also had an AGV that did the same. For me personally I wouldnt wear anything other than a Shoei or an Arai.
If you dont have a lot of money, have a look at the Shoei Raid II, always gets good reviews in writeups and it is reasonably priced.
Well Oiled
30-09-06, 07:36 AM
Look at the helmet accessory section here for the quick release. You can mail order them. I got one when over in the states a couple of years ago. They fit around the strap as it is so you don't cut it and leave the D-rings intact in case you change your mind.
http://www.shadetreemotorcycle.com/cgi-bin/E7E99FD2/mac/qryitems.mac/itemDisplay?qryType=STYLE&itemSt=99-20&coreDsc=ECHO%20QUICK%20RELEASE
Cheers Keith
Look at the helmet accessory section here for the quick release. You can mail order them. I got one when over in the states a couple of years ago. They fit around the strap as it is so you don't cut it and leave the D-rings intact in case you change your mind.
http://www.shadetreemotorcycle.com/cgi-bin/E7E99FD2/mac/qryitems.mac/itemDisplay?qryType=STYLE&itemSt=99-20&coreDsc=ECHO%20QUICK%20RELEASE
Cheers Keith
thanx for the link
it looks good
SV1000s
30-09-06, 07:54 AM
I've said it once, I'll say it a thousand times. A £50 lid that fits your head perfectly is better than a £500 lid that doesnt fit properly is to tight or is to loose.
I personaly dont like AGV's my brother had one and
1. It misted up something cronic
2. The visor didnt seal
3. It was noisy
4. After 6 - 7 months of every day use the cheekpads were so deformed that it didnt fit him properly anymore.
Liz also had an AGV that did the same. For me personally I wouldnt wear anything other than a Shoei or an Arai.
If you dont have a lot of money, have a look at the Shoei Raid II, always gets good reviews in writeups and it is reasonably priced.
I have had a few helmets in my time and now I have the AGV, I've not had any of those problems with mine.
Also, when I was looking for helmets I was told on more tha one occasion that you either have an Arai head or a Shoei head....yours is both?
:?
Also, when I was looking for helmets I was told on more tha one occasion that you either have an Arai head or a Shoei head....yours is both? :shock:
well im going to get my arai checked out cos i like it
fells good on ...looks plain though :cry:
Sid Squid
30-09-06, 10:42 AM
Under NO circumstances mess about with the stitching on your lid strap.
There are scare stories about the buckle type straps - but they're just that, scare stories, the buckles must be BS approved to be sold here and thus work fine, of course if you don't do it up right it won't work whatever type it is, and I personally feel this is less likely with 'D' ring fastenings, which is the type I prefer anyway.
PS. Replica lids = Tacky tat. :lol:
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