Clever ebay scam (I reckon)

[Baph]

Ok so, the story.

I owned, until last night, a pretty nice Samsung D600. Camera phone with all the gubbins, inc. a 2Gb miniSD card. All my contacts on it, pictures of the kids (and of chester zoo that we went to yesterday).

So it comes to the evening, and my 2yr old son, bless the little ******, decides to flush it down the toilet. I've checked in the toilet (under the U-bend etc) all the pipework from the toilet to outside the house, and the nearest manhole cover, where there's a T juntion that it should of stopped. I can only conclude that my phone is now half way to Ireland. Bugger.

So looking on ebay for a new phone. I noticed the V3 Razr for a whopping £12.99, free postage :shock: Some of you will remember that one of the lads here in the office is particularly succeptable to scams (I'm planning on selling him some 'heavy water' when I get the chance). So I'm checking out this ebay posting, thinking "This has to be a scam! Why is it so cheap!?!?!"

The sellers feedback is 100% positive, and has in the region of 30 odd comments.

The details of the particular ebay auction I was looking at, says it's a Police/Baliff auction etc etc, which kind of explains the price. However, there's NO details about the phone itself.

A little closer looking, and the end of the auction title is "... £12.99 RRP ebook". Aha. So they're not selling a phone, they're selling the phone's manual, in an electronic version, which explains why there's no postage costs.

No laws broken, because they're advertising selling a book for £13. Pretty craft beggars aren't they.

Lucky escape for me... and still looking to buy a phone (ideally SIM free, camera phone with bluetooth, would also like MP3 support). Also, can't be cross with the lil one, because, well, he's ace. No exceptions.

[SpankyHam]

link or item number please ?

[Baph]

Mods, if this is forbidden on the forum for legal issues or anything, please, feel free to edit this post accordingly.

Linky link (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/P0LICE-AUCTI0N-Motorola-RAZR-V3-up-to-90-RRP-ebook_W0QQitemZ120039580153QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3312 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

[SpankyHam]

Oh there are loads of these Auctions on eBay selling eBooks with information on where Police auctions are held.

[Baph]

First one I've seen (don't use ebay much as it is). The way I see it, there's no reason to state in the auction about the Razr specifically, unless you're trying to fool people into buying the phone. Or rather, fool people into thinking that's what they're buying.

To be perfectly honest, I just skipped over the text in the auction, and it's only now I see that part. At that price, with ebay being an auction, seeing a phone like the V3 Razr and a price of £13, I can imagine a lot of folks hit the 'Buy it now' icon before really stopping to think about it.

[Marshall]

they had somthing similar when the xbox 360 came out.

£299.99 they were, listed all the specifications etc. and in little text at the bottom of the page it said "you are bidding for a picture of an xbox 360" quite a few people fell for it

[lukemillar]

A chap here at work paid £300 for an xbox360 box!

[hovis]

i got out bid on a camera,lucky me thinks cos i then noticed small print not working

[northwind]

A chap here at work paid £300 for an xbox360 box!

That was a classic... Caveat emptor, folks, it's just a question of reading the ads. This one here, I can't see why anyone would think it was an auction for the phone, you need to really not be paying attention in which case, best of luck ;)

[creamerybutter]

General rule is if it is too good to be true on eBay it probably is.

[shao]

For what it's worth Baph, you dont want a RazR anyway, they're bloody horrible. I have one at home that i stopped using in favour of my old 3310 if your interested?

[fullstop102]

Got a Moto Razor V3X on orange if you are interested. Want £120 for it ideally with all the stuff as new.!!

Let me know!

[ArtyLady]

The moral of the story - read the friggin small print :roll: :wink:

takes ages but well worth it 8)

[Warthog]

Your son reminds me of a young Bart Simpson hehe

[falc]

General rule is if it is too good to be true on eBay it probably is.

Tons of scams on ebay, anyway you could prolly find some decent deals just phoning around etc.

The pyramid scheme is also a popular one

[Warren]

General rule is if it is too good to be true on eBay it probably is.

not in my case, i sold a pretty much brand new tyre on ebay, and some beggar won it for a pound,

later i had loads of email offers for it, for decent money,

but alas, fair is fair, and it went for a pound

[Baph]

fullstop102, thanks for the offer, but I'll politely decline. Shao has given me a review of the Razr V3X, and well, it was negative, and we'll leave it at that.

Warthog, you're the only person that's commented on him lol, Have an e-beer :drink: . Even though he's thrown a good phone down the toilet, loosing around 7years of contacts (I kept transferring them between phones over the years), loads of pictures & videos of the kids etc etc, I still can't bring myself to be homer.

When I found out what had happened, it was all I could do to stop myself giggling about it. Strange for some to understand, but at the end of the day, it's a phone, it can be replaced. Contacts being lost could be seen as useful, those I don't want to talk to now don't have my number :) The pictures/videos, we can always take more of. So I just gave him a big hug & tried to explain that the toilet is only where weewee & poopoo goes away by magic. Nothing else should be put into, or taken out of there!

I suppose I should of been harder on him, but, well, he's ace, how could I be horrid to him? :D

[Stu]

Teach you to back up data!
I reckon that's why you're not harder on him

And an IT geek as well :roll:


:lol:

[philipMac]

Howaya.

First point... mother of devine jesus, but hasnt Hovi5 been busy lately.

Second point... I got a clever scam there today, Paypal, not ebay, but thought I would share it with you lot anyway in the scam thread.

Subject Confirm your order

Dear member,

This email confirms that you have paid orders@dell.com $699.99 USD using PayPal.

This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL *DELL INC".

Shipping Information

Shipping Info: Wayne E Bakewell
16 elm st
Brownsville, PA 15417
United States
Address Status: Confirmed

Confirm this?


Now. The link to confirm is: http://staylocked.com/www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/login.html

(Although, you have to sniff about to pull that.)

With a little looking uping you get this:

Domain Name.......... staylocked.com
Creation Date........ 2001-07-10
Registration Date.... 2001-07-10
Expiry Date.......... 2007-07-10
Organisation Name.... Rare Concept ltd.
Organisation Address. Please email for further information.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Thank you.
Organisation Address. -
Organisation Address. -
Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK)

Admin Name........... Domain Administrator
Admin Address........ Namesco Limited
Admin Address........ Acton House, Perdiswell Park
Admin Address........ Worcester
Admin Address........ WR3 7GD
Admin Address........ England
Admin Address........ GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Admin Email.......... transfers@names.co.uk
blah blah.

nslookup staylocked.com gives you:
212.227.165.179

and whois gives you
whois 212.227.165.179
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% Rights restricted by copyright.
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% Note: This output has been filtered.
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% Information related to '212.227.160.0 - 212.227.175.255'

inetnum: 212.227.160.0 - 212.227.175.255
netname: SCHLUND-CUSTOMERS
descr: Schlund + Partner AG
descr: NCC#1999110113
country: DE
admin-c: UI-RIPE
tech-c: UI-RIPE
rev-srv: nsa.schlund.de
rev-srv: ns.schlund.de
rev-srv: ns2.schlund.de
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: SCHLUND-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

role: Schlund NCC
address: Schlund + Partner AG
address: Brauerstrasse 48
address: D-76135 Karlsruhe
address: Germany
remarks: For abuse issues, please use only abuse@schlund.com
remarks: For NOC issues, please look at our AS 8560
phone: +49 721 91374 50
fax-no: +49 721 91374 20
e-mail: abuse@schlund.com
admin-c: SPNC-RIPE
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Just thought I would stick it up anyway. Im off to bed. :lol:

[CheekyLemon]

Interesting. I work for Namesco.

I will look into that.

[Alpinestarhero]

Some of you will remember that one of the lads here in the office is particularly succeptable to scams (I'm planning on selling him some 'heavy water' when I get the chance).

Just cool the water to 4 degress celcius, its at that temp its densest (sp). Technically, ml for ml, it'll be heavier than water at room temp 8)

Matt

[Baph]

Some of you will remember that one of the lads here in the office is particularly succeptable to scams (I'm planning on selling him some 'heavy water' when I get the chance).

Just cool the water to 4 degress celcius, its at that temp its densest (sp). Technically, ml for ml, it'll be heavier than water at room temp 8)

Matt

:lol: You don't seem to get the idea. I'm planning on selling him a bucket full of ordinary, room temperature, tap water. With a brick in the bucket :lol:

It'll probably be advertised as being better for his car screenwash etc. On the principal that the heavy water runs down the window smoother, and therefore removes more dirt with it.

[CheekyLemon]

On the principal that the heavy water runs down the window smoother, and therefore removes more dirt with it.

Really? If you have some spare I will buy some. Does it leave white marks when it dries?

[Baph]

On the principal that the heavy water runs down the window smoother, and therefore removes more dirt with it.

Really? If you have some spare I will buy some. Does it leave white marks when it dries?

No residue is left remaining. How much would you like to order? I'm sure I can stuff maybe 2l into an A4 sized envelope. ;)

I'll obviously remove the brick first as this will only add too much to the postage costs, and isn't put in your car anyway.

Current going rate is £10/litre.

[philipMac]

Interesting. I work for Namesco.

I will look into that.

Find out where they live. And burn their house down.


(But leg it in and get my Dell laptop when they are all running about in terror. cheers.)