Suez

[tricky]

Anyone else watch this on TV last night ?

Didn't really know a lot about this, pretty shocking stuff.

An American President condemming attacks (which included the French army) on an Arab country ? how times change.

[tinpants]

Didn't see the programme but I can't say I'm surprised.

If theres one thing the Yanks have been consistent at over the years its being inconsistent.




In the same vein, who was the first person to gas the Kurds? And which country "invented" the concentration camp?


I think the answers to these questions may shock a few people.

[Grinch]

The UK is responsible for alot worse crimes then that in the past... but then thats the past and thats where it should stay. Countries should learn from those things not go off and have a go themself.

[tricky]

In the same vein, who was the first person to gas the Kurds?


British, Arab revolt 1920's ?


And which country "invented" the concentration camp?


British again ? Boer war ?

[SV1000s]

Well, we did round up a few Boers...... :roll:

It was during the Second Boer War.

We weren't the first though, that would be the Spanish.

'We' didn't gas them or kill them though, just held them for a while.

[tricky]

The UK is responsible for alot worse crimes then that in the past... but then thats the past and thats where it should stay

Interesting point, so because the atrocities committed by Great Britain where a little further back in history they become less significant ?

So in 100 years time the holocaust will cease to be important ?

[Warthog]

No he just means that you can't judge a country on its actions of generations ago. Same way you can't say Germans are vicious Nazis because the curernt generation are a respectable country. Doesn't mean the original sins were any less bad.

[tricky]

No he just means that you can't judge a country on its actions of generations ago. Same way you can't say Germans are vicious Nazis because the curernt generation are a respectable country. Doesn't mean the original sins were any less bad.

Yeah I know, I was just trying to get some discussion going :D :wink:

Coming back to my original point though, do you not think you can draw some parallels between Suez and Iraq ?

[Warthog]

aaah my speciality!


All people should be shot.
Fact.

[Mr Toad]

Eisenhower wrote in his memoirs that it (i.e. his treatment of, and lack of support for the UK & France) was his biggest mistake ever.

He was right

[rpwoodman]

It was the 3rd episode about the Suez crisis - I watched the first and have the next 2 episodes to go. I thought it was an outstanding documentary.

[tricky]

Eisenhower wrote in his memoirs that it (i.e. his treatment of, and lack of support for the UK & France) was his biggest mistake ever.

He was right

Do you not think, that if the American's had shown their support and the operation had reached its logical conclusion (i.e the removal of Nasser), the situation in the middle east would probably be worse that it is now, or not ?