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riktherider
09-11-06, 09:58 PM
How good do you think the new Bond film will be??
the trailers do look very good, and the clips and stunts look very good.
Also How good will Daniel craig play as Bond??
wheres the **** option? robbie williams should be the next james bond :smt070
riktherider
09-11-06, 10:01 PM
no bond films are s**t....well...ok...mabye one but we wont go there.
no bond films are s**t....well...ok...mabye one but we wont go there. :laughat: :smt043 :smt044
He was good in Layer Cake.
He was good in Layer Cake.
who?(not seen it)
Not into films much. BUT, Layer cake was pure class, Daniel Craig is bl**dy gorgeous ( I am female!) and for those reasons alone I will be seeing James Bond. :wink:
the trailers look good and i'm sure it will be good
people have been knocking Craig purely cos he has blonde hair, not even giving him a chance. utterly pathetic. he's a great actor, and he'll do a great job.
I have a feeling that this one will be slightly different in story than the others. As this was the 1st in the series of books, it will be the beginning of Bond. Other than that, it will be the same as all other bond films...action, stunts, birds, motors n gadgets....
Cant wait.
If you dont like bond, then you never will.
live & Let die is still my fav
fizzwheel
10-11-06, 09:31 AM
I'm hoping it'll be good, Casino Royale is my favourite out of all the books. I hope they havent mucked about with the plot to much. If they have stuck to the plot of the book reasonably closely it should make for an excellent film.
the white rabbit
10-11-06, 09:31 AM
I think he will be good, as to the film who knows.
there is only one james bond sean connery :wink:
If you believe all the press Mister Craig may well be a serious threat to Connery's legacy, personally I was always of the opinion that Moore Rodger Rodger Moore was the better of the Bonds.
I have a bit of a problem with the idea of it being the "1st" Bond yet it is in a contemporary setting.
This is mainly because of previous references to history but mainly because it has Judy Dench as M.
If you remember the first dialogue between Bond and the "Lady" M which pretty much defines their relationship:
M: You don't like me, Bond. You don't like my methods. You think I'm an accountant, a bean counter who's more interested in my numbers than your instincts.
James Bond: The thought had crossed me.
M: Good, because I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. A relic of the Cold War, who's boyish charms, though wasted on me, obviously appealed to the young lady I sent out to evaluate you.
James Bond: Point taken.
So how can the "1st Bond" be in a post cold war setting ? I know bond is timeless and its only a movie, but this just doesn't sit right with me.
Fizz: I take it the Casino Royale book is very different from the David Niven film then ?
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !
I have a bit of a problem with the idea of it being the "1st" Bond yet it is in a contemporary setting.
This is mainly because of previous references to history but mainly because it has Judy Dench as M.
If you remember the first dialogue between Bond and the "Lady" M which pretty much defines their relationship:
M: You don't like me, Bond. You don't like my methods. You think I'm an accountant, a bean counter who's more interested in my numbers than your instincts.
James Bond: The thought had crossed me.
M: Good, because I think you're a sexist, misogynist dinosaur. A relic of the Cold War, who's boyish charms, though wasted on me, obviously appealed to the young lady I sent out to evaluate you.
James Bond: Point taken.
So how can the "1st Bond" be in a post cold war setting ? I know bond is timeless and its only a movie, but this just doesn't sit right with me.
Fizz: I take it the Casino Royale book is very different from the David Niven film then ?
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !NO i think he would be good,im not a fan of his music mind
Anonymous
10-11-06, 12:22 PM
I'm hoping it'll be good, Casino Royale is my favourite out of all the books. I hope they havent mucked about with the plot to much. If they have stuck to the plot of the book reasonably closely it should make for an excellent film.
I agree, but i think they'll struggle to involve SMERSH in the storyline nowadays - can't wait to see how they've plotted it.
Oh, and I hear they have modernised it somewhat with the inclusion of Texas Hold 'Em rather than Baccarat!
I hold out high hopes for Daniel Craig, and has been mentioned, going back to using an original Fleming story as a basis. Really wanna see a traditional Bond story rather than the recent Mega-Blockbuster types of recent years (I actually wrote a letter of complaint to the producer after seeing the last one!)
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !
NO i think he would be good,im not a fan of his music mind
Ok then I'm curious, what qualities does he possess that would make him a good Bond ?
Anonymous
10-11-06, 12:28 PM
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !
NO i think he would be good,im not a fan of his music mind
Ok then I'm curious, what qualities does he possess that would make him a good Bond ?
Nothing. Apart from the publicity the producers get for having his name banded around as a potential candidate every few years. :wink:
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !
NO i think he would be good,im not a fan of his music mind
Ok then I'm curious, what qualities does he possess that would make him a good Bond ?
what qualities do you need???
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !
NO i think he would be good,im not a fan of his music mind
Ok then I'm curious, what qualities does he possess that would make him a good Bond ?
what qualities do you need???
You tell me, you said he would make a good Bond not me.
I'll give you a clue, being able to act might be start.
But as Mr Williams has been saying for sometime that he intends to move to acting for some time
and I have yet to see him anything of any note, says to me he is not a particularly good actor.
Hovis: Robbie Williams as Bond ? Your having a laugh aren't you !
NO i think he would be good,im not a fan of his music mind
Ok then I'm curious, what qualities does he possess that would make him a good Bond ?
what qualities do you need???
You tell me, you said he would make a good Bond not me.
I'll give you a clue, being able to act might be start.
But as Mr Williams has been saying for sometime that he intends to move to acting for some time
and I have yet to see him anything of any note, says to me he is not a particularly good actor.
:smt102 i just think he would be good......he is funny, looks good(i am not gay)......mybe im wrong
its just when i see him in a suit in his vidios it just makes me think of bond
i have never heard of the new guy
:smt102 i just think he would be good......he is funny, looks good(i am not gay)
not sure why you felt the need to tell us that!
its just when i see him in a suit in his vidios it just makes me think of bond
i reckon thats cos its the image he's aiming you to think of!
i have never heard of the new guy
really? he's been in quite a few good films! are you a fan of film or pop videos? :wink:
:smt102 i just think he would be good......he is funny, looks good(i am not gay)
not sure why you felt the need to tell us that! TRICKY ASKED
its just when i see him in a suit in his vidios it just makes me think of bond
i reckon thats cos its the image he's aiming you to think of! YUP
i have never heard of the new guy
really? he's been in quite a few good films! are you a fan of film or pop videos? :wink:
:smt102 i just think he would be good......he is funny, looks good(i am not gay)
not sure why you felt the need to tell us that! TRICKY ASKED
sorry, meant to say i don't know why you felt the need to say you're not gay?
:smt102 i just think he would be good......he is funny, looks good(i am not gay)
not sure why you felt the need to tell us that! TRICKY ASKED
sorry, meant to say i don't know why you felt the need to say you're not gay?
i was just letting YOU know, as i said he looks good :roll: i dont fancy him
UlsterSV
10-11-06, 01:30 PM
Mr. Williams has alot of gay fans. No need to feel embarrassed hovi5.
Mr. Williams has alot of gay fans. No need to feel embarrassed hovi5.
:oops: im not :oops:
Steve H
10-11-06, 01:36 PM
Forget Bond, the film to see will be Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny! :lol:
Forget Bond, the film to see will be Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny! :lol:
looks good
http://www.tenaciousdmovie.com/
fizzwheel
10-11-06, 04:59 PM
So how can the "1st Bond" be in a post cold war setting ? I know bond is timeless and its only a movie, but this just doesn't sit right with me.
Its going to be difficult, but it could be done, without messing up the plot. The last part of the book is extremely tense with a lot of stress. Its also bl**dy well written and you really can get inside bonds head and relate to what he's going through and what he's trying to achieve.
Fizz: I take it the Casino Royale book is very different from the David Niven film then ?
I dont know I watched the first 5 minutes of it years ago and turned it off as it was total sh*t...
The thing is and its something that always annoys me about the bond films, especially the Roger Moore era... Bond is always country first, he doesnt use a huge array of gadgets and technology in the books, just his cunning, with and charm. He's fighter not a lover, he's very ruthless and will think nothing of using people to get what he wants. Alot of the tension and drama in the books is all caused by physchological in the mind kind of stuff, rather than flashy gadgets etc, but I guess that wouldnt translate well onto the big screen as it woudl involve the audience using their brains rather than sitting their to be entertained.
I just do get that from Roger Moore. I always think Roger Moore as Bond the ladies man, but he said himself thats just his interpretation of the character and he wanted to be different that Connery.
I think Brosnan and Dalton brought something of the edge back to Bond, the will to complete his mission and would go to any lengths to protect his country at the risk of himself.
But for me Connery is the best Bond. The trouble is IMHO that the later films are lacking the fleming books to be based on. But what they did with Moonraker the film was an absoloute travesty IMHO.
I'm hoping it'll be good, Casino Royale is my favourite out of all the books. I hope they havent mucked about with the plot to much. If they have stuck to the plot of the book reasonably closely it should make for an excellent film.
Well they changed Baccart for Poker. Thats the first big change.
SoulKiss
14-11-06, 07:40 AM
i am not gay......(mybe im wrong)
You used your parentesis in the wrong place Hovi5 - corrected for ya :)
i am not gay......(mybe im wrong)
You used your parentesis in the wrong place Hovi5 - corrected for ya :)
thank you :lol:
I just saw the new flick.
Honestly I'm impressed. Gritty and very reality based compared to previous offerings.
Daniel Craig does a great job, looks and acts the part.
I think even people who aren't Bond fans can watch this one.
I went 5:30 after work, could hardly get out the cinema for the queue.
gettin2dizzy
17-11-06, 10:19 PM
i heard they removed most of the gadgets and women to make it more real. since when has hollywood been real?! hehe. what a pity! i only liked the bond movies because they were so ridiculous! oh... and those hilarious one liners!
fizzwheel
17-11-06, 10:19 PM
Gritty and very reality based compared to previous offerings.
Sounds promising. I'm going tomorrow with some mates.
fizzwheel
19-11-06, 12:35 AM
OK my thoughts. Doesnt stick faithfully to the book, but the core elements of the plot are there and preserved including some original lines of dialogue from the book to. The ending changed slightly from the book. I wont say more as I dont want to spoil it for those that havent seen it yet. I' very much a Bond purist though so if you watch it just as a film rather than looking for comparisions with the book its based on it a very enjoyable film, Daniel Craig makes and excellent Bond. Drama, tension, some humour but not cheesy, special effects etc don't overpower the film and it doesnt rely on gadgetry like some of the latest Bond films have done.
8 out of 10 from me.
Did you spot the subtle product placements?
fizzwheel
19-11-06, 12:51 AM
Did you spot the subtle product placements?
Annoying more like :evil:
Why have fanciful gadgets when there are real ones on the market now?
northwind
19-11-06, 01:44 AM
I don't know, but I just went and bought a new Sony laptop. And a mobile phone the size of a shoebox.
I thought it was very good. Not at all like a Bond film, mind, but that's not all bad. The poker scenes I thought were superb...
Sebastien Foucan stole the show though. Til he got dead.
Ceri JC
19-11-06, 11:43 AM
I saw it on Friday and I must say, I was pleasantly surprised. No massively unbelievable CGI or over-reliance on gadgets. It seems to be based at the start of Bond's career and he doesn't really feel like bond till about half way through (not unlike last year's "Batman Begins"). It is fairly long, there were at least 3 times before the end where I thought it was finishing! :shock:
Overall I'd give it 8/10.
fizzwheel
19-11-06, 11:45 AM
It seems to be based at the start of Bond's career and he doesn't really feel like bond till about half way through
Casino Royale was the first of Ian Flemings Bond books, hence why its at the start of Bonds career.
bazza220183
19-11-06, 11:51 AM
JUst seen the video for the Bond theme song which has loads of clips in, looks awesome, can't wait to see it.
Don't think Daniel Craig will be as good as the leg end that is Mr Connery though!
I think the comparisons to Batman Begins is pretty apt. I was thinking that while watching CR myself. Maybe they could re-make all the Bond flicks keeping them more in touch with the Fleming books and the 21st century. No more invisible cars or watches with lasers, which we all know HMSS could not afford anyway!
A return to a good plot and realistic storylines sounds promising. The amount of CGI in the last film was very poor and imo made it the worst bond to date.
Just watching On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Kojak was the best Blofeld.
I saw it on friday. I thought it was excellent. More of a plot, good acting, the stunts where 'real' lots of action, and only a couple of cheesy lines. Not many women either!! Need to go and watch it again as well....which is unusual for a bond movie.
Was long as well, 2hr 30!
Ceri JC
20-11-06, 11:09 AM
It seems to be based at the start of Bond's career and he doesn't really feel like bond till about half way through
Casino Royale was the first of Ian Flemings Bond books, hence why its at the start of Bonds career.
Ah, that explains it. As Razor said, I got the impression from the ending they were setting it up for several more Bond films in this style.
I read today that the next Bond will be a continuation of CR, they're currently calling it "Bond 22" and release date is set for November 2008.
fizzwheel
20-11-06, 06:59 PM
I read today that the next Bond will be a continuation of CR, they're currently calling it "Bond 22" and release date is set for November 2008.
Meh...
I guess they'll carry on from where the film left off, I wish they wouldnt do that... they should go and remake all the films that were made that don't stick to the plots in the books.
Got a source Razor or is it findable by googling ?
I read today that the next Bond will be a continuation of CR, they're currently calling it "Bond 22" and release date is set for November 2008.
Meh...
I guess they'll carry on from where the film left off, I wish they wouldnt do that... they should go and remake all the films that were made that don't stick to the plots in the books.
Got a source Razor or is it findable by googling ?
They'd just alienate 90% of the fans if they did that, especially if they did the Connery films again.
I wonder how many box sets they sell after each new movie release?
http://www.mi6.co.uk/sections/articles/bond_22_report_oct_06.php3?t=&s=
fizzwheel
20-11-06, 07:41 PM
Umh that looks interesting, might work if they take it as a sub plot from Casino Royale.... have to wait and see I guess. Cheers for the link 8)
The Connery films though are reasonably OK, The Man with the Golden Gun is good as a film although different to the book. I was really thinking more of the Roger Moore era films which are IMHO utter cack Moore I dont like as a Bond. If they remade Moonraker so it wasnt rubbish I'd be happy TBH.
Moore made the most films and there are some crackpots out there who reckon he was a better Bond than Connery. My fave Bond was actually Lazenby, Connery second, Brosnan, Dalton and Moore last.
Craig has moved to the top of this list but Moore remains at the bottom.
fizzwheel
20-11-06, 08:01 PM
Connery is my fav, but Lazonby, Brosnan and Newbie Bond Craig probably Craig is the closest.The capture the spirit of Bond for me. I dont like the modern reliance on gadgets and CGI which is why I was pleased that the latest film has moved away from that. I liked Daniel Craig I think he understood how Bond should be played.
Daniel Craig is on 5th Gear now!
philipMac
20-11-06, 09:24 PM
Connery is my fav, but Lazonby, Brosnan and Newbie Bond Craig probably Craig is the closest.The capture the spirit of Bond for me. I dont like the modern reliance on gadgets and CGI which is why I was pleased that the latest film has moved away from that. I liked Daniel Craig I think he understood how Bond should be played.
That's basically word for word exactly what I was going to write.
So, I wont bother now.
Nah, I mean, the SAS without any doubt have a mystique an a scariness about them, that is not at all exploited in Bond films. SAS guys that I have seen seem to be basically the opposite of old Bonds. (Although I suppose I only a few of them.)
This Bond is far more out of that mold than a the previous guys.
northwind
20-11-06, 10:09 PM
Or to put it differently, you could probably take Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton, yup. But you'd not start anything with Daneil Craig. Or Sean Connery for that matter...
philipMac
21-11-06, 12:01 AM
Or to put it differently, you could probably take Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton, yup. But you'd not start anything with Daneil Craig. Or Sean Connery for that matter...
Yeah. Well, I was going to write you might take Sean, if you sneaked up behind him with a metal bar, but then I realised he would hear it at the last second, and whip around and catch it as you were about to belt him, and then use it to smack you in the head with, when its still in your hands.
Craigey boy would just just knife you and saunter off somewhere. No messing about.
I think that Begby should be given a part in random films too. You know, instead of " thug at Bond Bad guys house", you'd have Begby. lashing back the cans of heavy, playing a game of pool, Benson and Hedges in the mouth, and he would glance up and commence GBHing, and you could think, ahh, that's where Begby ended up.
He could take out some of the misc cannon fodder good guys in a none to ethical fashion, before scarpering when he realises Bond doesnt like his type round here.
Bebgy. Sigh. :smt060
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/jeremyass/trainspot_begby.jpg
BernardBikerchick
21-11-06, 12:22 AM
thought it was superb ! apart from being sat next to some wheezing blob who was a heart attack waiting to happen ! great film, very long but good ! can' really gush over him but his eyes were ok i gueess !!
northwind
21-11-06, 12:53 AM
Bebgy. Sigh. :smt060
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/jeremyass/trainspot_begby.jpg
You're not normal. Not even remotely.
Wasn't Robert Carlyle a Bond villian in the World Is Not Enough, or some such? Bullet in his head, immune to pain? That's what happened to Francis Begbie. Shot in the head by Sick Boy, became a supervillian. F***in' SMERSH, an that, eh? Ya radge c***.
philipMac
21-11-06, 02:00 AM
Bebgy. Sigh. :smt060
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/jeremyass/trainspot_begby.jpg
You're not normal. Not even remotely.
Wasn't Robert Carlyle a Bond villian in the World Is Not Enough, or some such? Bullet in his head, immune to pain? That's what happened to Francis Begbie. Shot in the head by Sick Boy, became a supervillian. F***in' SMERSH, an that, eh? Ya radge c***.
Ah go away out of that. You only love me more cause I'm different. :wink:
Was he in a Bond film then?? He was and all. I have to own up here, as not being a massive bond fan. But, Jaysis.. On the money or wha'?
Immune to pain from the 11 cans of heavy more like. Sound.
Anyway, Begbie should be back, and this time he should be mates with...
http://kathyddl.tripod.com/butchercap.jpg
Can you imagine the ruckus that would ensue.
northwind
21-11-06, 10:10 AM
He should be mates with a tripod? Scary, yep, but I don't see it working out in the long run.
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