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ejohnh
26-11-06, 10:46 PM
Hi,

I did an oil and filter change today. Because this SV(which I love dearly) is my first 'modern' bike, I thought I'd take the bottom tidy thingy (what's it really called?) off and generally have a looksee. Tried an allen key on the bolts which attach the thing to the brackets - with no joy at all. I suspected that some form of threadlock was used but this seems a bit over the top. Is it usual? I'm going to change the spark plugs and air filter in the week - anything I should watch out for?

TY
John

instigator
26-11-06, 10:54 PM
Hi John

Nooooooooooooooo idea what you're talking about. Wait for someone else to come along.

:lol:

Cheers

Greg

ejohnh
26-11-06, 11:10 PM
Hi John

Nooooooooooooooo idea what you're talking about. Wait for someone else to come along.

:lol:

Cheers

Greg


Just checked - it's called a bellypan.

gettin2dizzy
26-11-06, 11:40 PM
there are 2 types of threadlock. red and blue. Normally red is used at one end, blue at the other. Red is heavy duty! really strong stuff. Blue can be undone by hand tools - just needs an initial bit of power! and they are actually really that colour- and bright. So you might be able to see which one was used.

ejohnh
26-11-06, 11:43 PM
there are 2 types of threadlock. red and blue. Normally red is used at one end, blue at the other. Red is heavy duty! really strong stuff. Blue can be undone by hand tools - just needs an initial bit of power! and they are actually really that colour- and bright. So you might be able to see which one was used.


Thanks - I'll look at that tomorrow..

Heed
26-11-06, 11:53 PM
There's a good chance that the bolts on a belly pan have seized in place due to it taking a lot of water. Again, I'd wait until someone who's removed one before comes along.

ejohnh
27-11-06, 09:13 PM
There's a good chance that the bolts on a belly pan have seized in place due to it taking a lot of water. Again, I'd wait until someone who's removed one before comes along.

Hi,

Has nobody who has removed a belly pan read this?

John

Warren
27-11-06, 10:06 PM
id try some penetrating spray on there, just incase there seized, if not, id go medievil on their ass.

ejohnh
27-11-06, 10:16 PM
yep - I am tempted to take a drill to the bolt. I got a feeling that anymore leverage in the hexhole (allen screw female entry :oops: ) and the thing will become rounded anyway. I hate p*ssing about like this. I just hope the guy who had my baby before didn't do any serious maintenance. He was from Llandewi Brevi - I hope I spelt that right. You know, it's the little Britain welsh village with the unique gay.

John

Warren
28-11-06, 01:21 AM
yep - I am tempted to take a drill to the bolt. I got a feeling that anymore leverage in the hexhole (allen screw female entry :oops: ) and the thing will become rounded anyway. I hate p*ssing about like this. I just hope the guy who had my baby before didn't do any serious maintenance. He was from Llandewi Brevi - I hope I spelt that right. You know, it's the little Britain welsh village with the unique gay.

John

id say start with a decent allen key,

i prefer to use an allen key attachemnt onto a screwdriver, giving more feel to it, getting a nice clean drive, and a more central turning action,

i cant stand them things you get with the standard tool kits.

Davido
28-11-06, 01:11 PM
Tried an allen key on the bolts which attach the thing to the brackets.

I'm sorry but that really made me laugh. That's the most vague description ever. :lol:

(Not having a dig mate, just thought it was funny)

ejohnh
28-11-06, 01:57 PM
Tried an allen key on the bolts which attach the thing to the brackets.

I'm sorry but that really made me laugh. That's the most vague description ever. :lol:

(Not having a dig mate, just thought it was funny)

Not really: 'Tried a thing on the things which attach the thing to the things' is more vague I reckon. :shock:

Anyway, I have soaked the exposed threads in releasing oil and will have another crack at it later. I couldn't visibly detect any blue or red loctite on the threads. I managed to change the oil filter ok with the belly pan in situ.

ejohnh
29-11-06, 01:18 AM
yep - I am tempted to take a drill to the bolt. I got a feeling that anymore leverage in the hexhole (allen screw female entry :oops: ) and the thing will become rounded anyway. I hate p*ssing about like this. I just hope the guy who had my baby before didn't do any serious maintenance. He was from Llandewi Brevi - I hope I spelt that right. You know, it's the little Britain welsh village with the unique gay.

John

id say start with a decent allen key,

i prefer to use an allen key attachemnt onto a screwdriver, giving more feel to it, getting a nice clean drive, and a more central turning action,

i cant stand them things you get with the standard tool kits.

Thanks for that. It made me think. I dropped by Halfords tonight and picked up a set of metric hex sockets. The feel of a 'balanced' torque was good. The bolts came loose easily. Cheers

Warren
29-11-06, 01:29 AM
cool.

keep hold of those hex bits, as they will save many o knuckle skins.

just be careful when tightening them up, as they can overtighten pretty easily.