Checking out a new rider …

[Blue_SV650S]

Ok so admit it - when you see a sports bike pull up do you check out how ‘hard’ its has been ridden ???

i.e. Do you look at the rear tyre and check out the chicken strips, look at the owners kneesliders, hero blobs etc etc?

What other indicators do you use to judge the riders ability?

I tend to no care unless I hear the person talking/chatting to someone else about what a hero they are… I then can’t help inspecting the telltale signs … then 9 times out of 10 giggle to myself ;)

What I have found is that generally speaking the tidier the bike is the more of a poof the rider is ;)

Oh and if it is a female rider I don't care ... I just check out if she's fit!! ;) :lol:

[arenalife]

I can't say I'm greatly interested, I don't like getting alongside other riders in fact, they're an annoying variable with all that weaving and quick moves :D

[valleyboy]

I tend to no care unless I hear the person talking/chatting to someone else about what a hero they are… I then can’t help inspecting the telltale signs … generally then giggle to myself ;)

What I have found is that generally speaking the tidier the bike is the more of a poof the rider is ;)



Some of us ride hard.. clean hard ;)

My bike is probably immaculate for something thats done 33K miles... its been faster than your SV will go and then some... and has got me knee downs on various corners and roundabouts :wink: left, and right knees... :lol:

[BILLY]

Just cause I've got a tidy bike it does not mean I'm a poof :lol: http://upload4.postimage.org/1774748/svmods2.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1774748/photo_hosting.html)

[Blue_SV650S]

Just cause I've got a tidy bike it does not mean I'm a poof :lol:

Oh yes, yes it does ;) :lol:

valleyboy - Ahhhhh ... that sounds like classic biker BS to me ... you'd be a candidate for validity inspection ;) :lol:

[Richie]

and the bait has been cast .... any takers....

http://jasidog.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/fishing.gif


yep ... to late.

[hovis]

so your point is............

if you have a nice clean bike....you are a puff

BUT

if you bike is dirty & battered you are a good rider



:-k

[BILLY]

Just cause I've got a tidy bike it does not mean I'm a poof :lol:

Oh yes, yes it does ;) :lol:

valleyboy - Ahhhhh ... that sounds like classic biker BS to me ... you'd be a candidate for validity inspection ;) :lol:

Is yours a ratter then :lol: (rat bike for the uneducated)

[Scoobs]

if you have a nice clean bike....you are a puff


True in my case.

[Blue_SV650S]

so your point is............

if you have a nice clean bike....you are a puff

BUT

if you bike is dirty & battered you are a good rider



:-k

It means the rider has spent good riding time polishing rather than riding the thing ;)

Also if it is spotless, chances are the rider is more concerned about damaging it than someone that has a more tatty bike ...

[Blue_SV650S]

Is yours a ratter then :lol: (rat bike for the uneducated)

My roadbike is clean, just not @nally so ... I wash it when it gets dirty, but not in there with autosol and a toothbrush sort of clean ;)

p.s. I never said I didn't ride like a poof ;)

[hovis]

so your point is............

if you have a nice clean bike....you are a puff

BUT

if you bike is dirty & battered you are a good rider



:-k

It means the rider has spent good riding time polishing rather than riding the thing ;)

Also if it is spotless, chances are the rider is more concerned about damaging it than someone that has a more tatty bike ...

ha,ha you have fallen into my trap.........your bike in your aviator is very "clean" so, this makes you a PUFF by your rules

:winner:

[Damoulianos Marios]

Oh and if it is a female rider I don't care ... I just check out if she's fit!! ;) :lol:

Then you worry about the rear shock's condition if she's not heh? :)

[valleyboy]

Just cause I've got a tidy bike it does not mean I'm a poof :lol:

Oh yes, yes it does ;) :lol:

valleyboy - Ahhhhh ... that sounds like classic biker BS to me ... you'd be a candidate for validity inspection ;) :lol:

Ask any of the South and West Surfers lot...

Mogs, Jabba and Lemmings can confirm my bike hitting its top speed ;) baffle out on the Remus.. so they heard it before I overtook them... :lol:
Stretchie can also confirm (when his bike was working) he was at *cough* #50 mph.. and I was still pulling away from him :wink:

as for knee down antics, well again, South and West surfers have seen me do it on a few occasions...

I could be sad and take photos of my knee sliders :roll:
I have a Green Bike and green leathers... I have a reputation to uphold... not just any fool can don green leathers on a green bike :lol:

some of us ride 18K+ miles a year and still keep our bikes tidy.. :lol: again, the bunch from above can testify, and regularly do poke fun at my bike being all shiney :lol:
So you lot have no excuses for manky bikes!

[suzsv650]

i knwo exactly what you mean

im college there is this new GSXR thou spanking cleen wiht chicken strips that are huge!!!!

i do indeed also lok at other riders too altho now its gettin wintery im starting to get the strips back but meh

i agree with the cleaner the bike

its quite simple realy people that put loads of lvoe into there bikes dont want to risk anything to damage them which is y they are so clean and not riden hard.. this can also be proven wrong of cource but i havnt yet found a case.....


NONE of this can be proven tho :lol: jsut makin arguement lol!

[Razor]

Ok so admit it I'm more of a poof than any other rider is ;) ;) :lol:

=D> =D> About time you came out the closet!

[Richie]

on a safety note,

if you have a clean bike you can spot a fault more easily and rectify it quicker...
thus keeping you and your bike on the road longer. :wink:

[21QUEST]

I don't waste my time checking out tyres etc as sports bike riders do ride like puffs anyway. If they've done something to really annoy me then I just make them work :wink:

Agree with to riding puffness being linked to how clean the bike is :P . Don't seem to work in my case though. Bike is minging but rider still crap :?


Cheers
Ben

ps: I ride like a puff but seeing as I ride an SV I have a cast iron excuse :lol:

[hovis]

i have a nice clean bike (imo) although i have not got my knee down yet in the 2 months i have been riding i am offended to be labaled a puff :shock:

im not a puff [-(

[valleyboy]

on a safety note,

if you have a clean bike you can spot a fault more easily and rectify it quicker...
thus keeping you and your bike on the road longer. :wink:

True.. spot nails/glass metal bits in tyres... brake pads near limits, and calipers that are close to putting the crap into you at the wrong moment... :lol:

though it can go the other way.. over clean the bike... and it makes things go wrong! :lol:

[Razor]

im not a puff [-(

methinks you protest too much.

[Blue_SV650S]

i have a nice clean bike (imo) although i have not got my knee down yet in the 2 months i have been riding i am offended to be labaled a puff :shock:

im not a puff [-(

No one said you were a poof … perhaps inferred you probably ride like one?!?!? … yours is yellow too … :lol: … this is so easy!!

As for me, never said I didn't ride like a poof myself ... and freely admit I got big old chicken strips on my road bike … and I just don’t care!! Why??? Coz I use the bike for commuting, and because unlike so many others, I am happy with my ride-uality!! :) Long gone are the days when I care about that sort of stuff!! ;)

Ask any of the South and West Surfers lot...

Mogs, Jabba and Lemmings can confirm my bike hitting its top speed ;) baffle out on the Remus.. so they heard it before I overtook them... :lol:
Stretchie can also confirm (when his bike was working) he was at *cough* #50 mph.. and I was still pulling away from him :wink:

as for knee down antics, well again, South and West surfers have seen me do it on a few occasions...

I could be sad and take photos of my knee sliders :roll:
I have a Green Bike and green leathers... I have a reputation to uphold... not just any fool can don green leathers on a green bike :lol:

some of us ride 18K+ miles a year and still keep our bikes tidy.. :lol: again, the bunch from above can testify, and regularly do poke fun at my bike being all shiney :lol:
So you lot have no excuses for manky bikes!

Valleyboy ... that means/proves nothing .... if Mr Rossi had been out on a ride with you and turned to me and said ... 'that VB, hez a god' ... it might mean something!! ;)

[Richie]

on a safety note,

if you have a clean bike you can spot a fault more easily and rectify it quicker...
thus keeping you and your bike on the road longer. :wink:

True.. spot nails/glass metal bits in tyres... brake pads near limits, and calipers that are close to putting the crap into you at the wrong moment... :lol:

though it can go the other way.. over clean the bike... and it makes things go wrong! :lol:

yep agreed, like oiling your brake disks to stop em rusting / squeeling when fitted new pads
Please do not do this as I did know a biker that did, (now deceased)

[hovis]

so not only are you calling VB a puff you are saying jabba mogs & lemmings opinions are not valid

:smt075

[Ed]

so not only are you calling VB a puff you are saying jabba mogs & lemmings opinions are not valid

:smt075

You'd put two cats to fight, you would.

[Blue_SV650S]

so not only are you calling VB a puff you are saying jabba mogs & lemmings opinions are not valid

:smt075

Er I said VB was a candidate for inspection ... not that he rode like a poof ;)

why would their opinions be valid to me??? I don't even know anything about them ;)

[fizzwheel]

Blue, Do you want some more bait for your fising hook ? :roll:

[Blue_SV650S]

Blue, Do you want some more bait for your fising hook ? :roll:

Its not directly what I said ... its peoples assumptions and the way they read into it that seem to self bait!! 8)

[valleyboy]

I dont say I ride like a god... there are people I know who make me look slow... and I make other people look slow etc.... just that I dont follow the 'if the bikes clean, I ride like poof' line... I have a clean bike, Ive also seen 1#7 MPH on my speedo.. Ive also got my knees down on either side.. and not just on roundabouts... :lol: and during summer time, I have no chicken strips!

[fizzwheel]

Probably, just take a chill pill guys eyh...

Anyway.. I've got one clean bike, thats done 9K in 8 months, and one dirty bike thats done 36K so whats that make me.. Hotel, Motel ? :lol:

[hovis]

1#7?

[Blue_SV650S]

I dont say I ride like a god... there are people I know who make me look slow... and I make other people look slow etc.... just that I dont follow the 'if the bikes clean, I ride like poof' line... I have a clean bike, Ive also seen 1#7 MPH on my speedo.. Ive also got my knees down on either side.. and not just on roundabouts... :lol: and during summer time, I have no chicken strips!

VB you may well ride hard ... but the way you feel you need to 'brag' about it amuses me and makes you a candidate for validity inspection :)

The clean bike thing was a generalisation ... from my experience there is a strong correlation between bike 'tidyness' and how hard they ride it ...

It is not foolproof ... just a general trend ... lets face it I could look in a moto GP paddock and see a lot of tidy bikes ;)

[valleyboy]

1#7?

Im not posting the middle number though I can clearly indicate it is between the numbers 1 and 7 :lol: check the top speed for a ZX-6R B1H.. Ive seen 2MPH over this on my speedo ;) my mate who is lighter has seen more on it... lol

[BILLY]

At the end of the day you should ride to your abilities and not beyond them because if you do you will get hurt or killed!!

That's my 2p worth 8)

[hovis]

I dont say I ride like a god... there are people I know who make me look slow... and I make other people look slow etc.... just that I dont follow the 'if the bikes clean, I ride like poof' line... I have a clean bike, Ive also seen 1#7 MPH on my speedo.. Ive also got my knees down on either side.. and not just on roundabouts... :lol: and during summer time, I have no chicken strips!

VB you may well ride hard ... but the way you feel you need to 'brag' about it amuses me and makes you a candidate for validity inspection :)

The clean bike thing was a generalisation ... from my experience there is a strong correlation between bike 'tidyness' and how hard they ride it ...

It is not foolproof ... just a general trend ... lets face it I could look in a moto GP paddock and see a lot of tidy bikes ;)

so now your saying all moto GP riders are puffs :shock: [-X ](*,)

[weazelz]

What I have found is that generally speaking the tidier the bike is the more of a poof the rider is ;)


where do i collect my "un-poofiest rider" award? :-D

[Blue_SV650S]

1#7?

Im not posting the middle number though I can clearly indicate it is between the numbers 1 and 7 :lol: check the top speed for a ZX-6R B1H.. Ive seen 2MPH over this on my speedo ;) my mate who is lighter has seen more on it... lol

If you are doing them sort of speeds on the road it deffo takes you out of the riding like a poof category - well done ... but it does firmly put you into another category!! ;)

If you have done it on track ... its not difficult (presuming you have a bike capable) ... so well who hasn't? ;)

[Blue_SV650S]

What I have found is that generally speaking the tidier the bike is the more of a poof the rider is ;)


where do i collect my "un-poofiest rider" award? :-D

lol, yep your bike is deffo a s****er!!! ... 8) :D

...
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I've seen you ride too, so would know if a comment coming out of your chops is likely to be valid or not ;)

[valleyboy]

Id just call myself plain stupid for doing what I did.... but I hold my hands up to it.. I was curious to see what the bike could do.. it just got there very very quickly.. so quick, I didnt even know I was going that fast. a case of go to change gear.. ohhh in 6th gear, look down at tacho.. and then decide to back off throttle... :lol:

[Demonz]

Ok so admit it - when you see a sports bike pull up do you check out how ‘hard’ its has been ridden ???

i.e. Do you look at the rear tyre and check out the chicken strips, look at the owners kneesliders, hero blobs etc etc?

What other indicators do you use to judge the riders ability?

I tend to no care unless I hear the person talking/chatting to someone else about what a hero they are… I then can’t help inspecting the telltale signs … then 9 times out of 10 giggle to myself ;)

What I have found is that generally speaking the tidier the bike is the more of a poof the rider is ;)

Oh and if it is a female rider I don't care ... I just check out if she's fit!! ;) :lol:

I often do it in the city when sitting at the lights. Then the courier or the bloke on one of those 500cc scooter things comes up the inside and carves us all up :lol: We all learn at our own pace and there is always someone faster or slower. I dont take riding seriously enough to get myself to the front of the pack and generally find the tidier the bike - the more conscientious rider. I place myself in this group - my bike is shiny and for now my sliders are on there for show :wink:

[Benji]

In which case I must be THE fastest SV rider of ALL time if your theory holds true and I am willing to pitch my bikes 'details' against ANY other bike as testament to how 'fast' I am.

[TSM]

My bikes a mess, what does that mean. Nothing realy.

[Ceri JC]

In VB's defence, he does live out in the styx, where the only thing he's likely to come across are sheep, so if he want's to max his bike out, it's not like he's doing it past a school at 3.30 :)

[keithd]

i don't look at other peoples bikes to see how hard they've been riden, i care not one iota.

and i care less on what other people may think of my bike and how well/hard/badly its been ridden.

hth

[Baph]

We define ourselves in terms of others, so when checking out other rides, IMO, it's merely an ego trip for yourself ("Am I a better rider than them?").

Personally, I judge my ride by safety, not speed. If I NEED to go to the edge of my tyre to get out of the sticky stuff, insitnct would probably take over & I'd just get on with it, but I don't try to do it (yes, I used to just after I got the bike, exploring possabilities etc).

The ONLY time I've been seriously pi$$ed off with my ride was when I came off. The only person to blame was me, and I was in such a foul mood that I simply refused to drive the car as well. I have to be in the right frame of mind to ride/drive, and I wasn't, so I didn't do it (that, and not being able to bend my left leg :( )

I judge other bikers by how they behave whilst riding, not how their bike looks. Most of the people I've seen riding on the roads get tainted with the same brush as car drivers, even the guy sat diagonally opposite me right now, because they don't have the manners to avoid my blind spot when behind me. It's for that very reason that I prefer being behind other riders. So what if they think I'm slower, I can see them & I try my best to make sure they can see me. Having said that, when I can see someone, and it's someone I know won't sit in my blind spot all the time, I've been known to get a shift on.

To me, a riding god is someone who's survived years on the road without ever even panicing about a situation, let alone coming off. I seriously doubt even Rossi can make that claim.

We are who we are, and anyone that sits in my blind spot finds I brake to let them past pretty quickly. I'd rather know where someone was than have a race to prove who's the "best".

I'll get off the soap box now :oops:

[mysteryjimbo]

I've got a new bike, new tyres and little ground clearance. Where do i fall cause my tyres have huge chicken strips and i can't get my knee down as its a new bike with hard luggage?

[SoulKiss]

In VB's defence, he does live out in the styx,

What, a houseboat on the river of the dead????

VB if the bike breaks down - DONT PAY THE FERRYMAN !!!!!

[Jabba]

Mogs, Jabba and Lemmings can confirm my bike hitting its top speed ;)

Aye....'twas about 45mph on the last Porlocks ride :wink:

I wasn't aware of your polishing it too much on that rideout.

[valleyboy]

Mogs, Jabba and Lemmings can confirm my bike hitting its top speed ;)

Aye....'twas about 45mph on the last Porlocks ride :wink:

I wasn't aware of your polishing it too much on that rideout.

Aye, :lol: hadnt cleaned the bike for that ride, as I had to clean my calipers instead, as they has seized up on me the day before :shock: so had my hands full making sure my bike was back to being safe for riding.... now, the last welsh way round was another story :lol:

I do live on the edge of middle no-where... :lol: plenty of roads to go on around here where you wont see a car for miles... or petrol garages either :?

[Mogs]

I don’t see that there is any correlation between how clean a bike is and how brave the rider is, I’ve ridden with people whose bikes are pristine that do not take foolish risks, yet are still very fast, I’ve ridden with a few that do take foolish risks to be fast, and I don’t ride with them a second time.

This bravado is good for a laugh but it should be clear that that all it is. I don’t care whether you ride fast or slow, my only concern is for those that ride with me, I want them to be safe, VB knows what I think of his riding, he doesn’t need me to vouch for him.

[Grinch]

Ok so admit it - when you see a sports bike pull up do you check out how ‘hard’ its has been ridden ???

i.e. Do you look at the rear tyre and check out the chicken strips, look at the owners kneesliders, hero blobs etc etc?

What other indicators do you use to judge the riders ability?

I tend to no care unless I hear the person talking/chatting to someone else about what a hero they are… I then can’t help inspecting the telltale signs … then 9 times out of 10 giggle to myself ;)

What I have found is that generally speaking the tidier the bike is the more of a poof the rider is ;)

Oh and if it is a female rider I don't care ... I just check out if she's fit!! ;) :lol:

Nope.. I just give them a glance.. a nod and when the lights change... floor it.

The probably look and me and my bike and think.. what a mess... then I vanish... in a blurr of florescent jacket and oilly smoke.
Plus the occasional pop from the can due to my leaky vacuum hose that I ain't sorted yet.

[valleyboy]

This bravado is good for a laugh but it should be clear that that all it is. I don’t care whether you ride fast or slow, my only concern is for those that ride with me, I want them to be safe, VB knows what I think of his riding, he doesn’t need me to vouch for him.

Dangerous ? :lol:

In all seriousness, I will be taking some advanced lessons at somepoint next year, not decided on what route to go yet, as there are a few options open.. the place where I did my CBT and DAS do weekends away to North Wales, the instructors are current Police Motorcyclists... tempted to do that. Also have one eye on the future, as I would like to see about becoming an instructor of sorts at somepoint.. (stop laughing at the back you lot!)

[Steve H]

Poof dear? who dear?, me dear?, no dear!






OK, my bike is quite clean. :oops:

[Beenz]

I don't go quick enough to catch up other bikes :oops:

[northwind]

I suppose I think about loads of things. If I see super-sticky tyres that obviously haven't been worked hard, that always makes me I'm looking at the bike of a monkey. This means you, guy with the Supercorsa Pros on the CBR outside my office...

I also tend to look at gear... Really cheap rubbish leathers tell you something about the rider, I reckon, especially when you see them on the back of a really nice or tricked out bike.

Chicken strips tell you nothing, really... So many variables, not least of which the fact that if 2 riders ride equally fast, the one with the worse form will have smaller chicken strips :)

[cuffy]

I don't go quick enough to catch up other bikes :oops: :lol: :lol: fookin tea all over the monitor :shock:

As for me...got a tidy bike, huge chicken strips, never got my knee down...yes i ridden outside my limit and i crapped myself....but i aint no poof :wink:

[valleyboy]

I don't go quick enough to catch up other bikes :oops: :lol: :lol: fookin tea all over the monitor :shock:

As for me...got a tidy bike, huge chicken strips, never got my knee down...yes i ridden outside my limit and i crapped myself....but i aint no poof :wink:

Your not the only one that just laughed a lung out... :lol:

[anna]

I don't go quick enough to catch up other bikes :oops:

:shock: erm isnt that supposed to read... you dont need to catch other bikes as they are already behind you??? :wink:

[Biker Biggles]

Now now ladies and gents please!All this who is or is not a poof and how clean is your ride is quite beyond the pale and must stop right now.Have you all forgotten so soon?
Rule one
Nnnnnnnooooooooooo Pooftas.






:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[hovis]

what about "just a bit puffy"

[Biker Biggles]

Rule two
Nnnnnnnooooooo Pooftas.
(Not even a bit poofy)
Rule three
No rule three
Rule four
Nnnnnoooo Pooftas.

[kwak zzr]

poofta = mint bike! I DONT THINK SO :twisted: I BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO CLEAN MINE :oops:

[Davido]

My bike's pretty tidy and its been ridden a damn sight harder than most other bikes out there.

However I don't tend to look at sliders/hero blobs. Okay so you can lean a bike over, great. I can scrape pegs going <10mph, but does that mean I'm a fast rider? (I am by my standards, but for arguements sake ignore this) I think its how desensive they become when you question them about their riding.

Generally the people who say stuff like "I had my knee down going round this harirpin and some w*nker in a car cut me up". I dunno why, but car bashing is a very good indicator of someone's riding abaility. Might just be round ehre though.

[Grinch]

I'll stick with me... 'slowely becoming a rat bike'...

[the_runt69]

Dunno about this but my SV is filthy, needs some TLC but still gets me to work, 32 K of mostly town riding and I have big chicken strips not a fast rider s dont have the chance to be.

H

[kwak zzr]

this is like checking out the bully, he's got a bald head, teeth missing, scars on his face, a black eye, but all this means is he gets hit alot and is prob crap at being a bully :wink: