Whiskey part 2

[timwilky]

Wow

Just cracked open a bottle of Laphroaig cask strength

Now if anyone finds where my socks have landed please return them.

[Richie]

phew...... pour me one... I'll be there pronto, with your socks.


:wink: :wink: :wink:

[Bluepete]

What's your address, I know it's near me, but I need DETAILS!

(hope I didn't sound desperate then?)

[Bluepete]

Oh, and if you like gawping at lots of very odd malts, get ye over to Byrnes vintners in King Street, Clitheroe. Awesome selection!

[Richie]

Oh, and if you like gawping at lots of very odd malts, get ye over to Byrnes vintners in King Street, Clitheroe. Awesome selection!

is that a crimbo invitation... ?

[timwilky]

Oh, and if you like gawping at lots of very odd malts, get ye over to Byrnes vintners in King Street, Clitheroe. Awesome selection!

Pete sod the gawping, its for drinking.

Poured me a small one and the wife one to get her mother spinning again. These Salford lightweights just can't hack it. So I had to drink hers.

Now when it come to the economics. On a bad day when I need comfort I recon a normal bottle can get a severe dent. But this cask strength stuff whilst only a couple of pounds extra needs some serious respect.

If it carries on like this I may have to start adding water to my whiskey instead of another one.

[Stingo]

swap you my Tobermory...... :lol:

[Bluepete]

Tim the distilery blokes would castrate you if you added water to it. Whats the point of them taking it all out for you to put it back in again!

Richie, yes, why not , lets get something sorted. I have to go there to get the chipolatas for crimbo tea from Cowmans sossige (no I really can't spell :oops: ) shop.

[keithd]

whisky? maybe but not as whisky as a bank waid

sorry. do carry on

that always makes me grin.

[timwilky]

Tim the distilery blokes would castrate you if you added water to it. Whats the point of them taking it all out for you to put it back in again!

Richie, yes, why not , lets get something sorted. I have to go there to get the chipolatas for crimbo tea from Cowmans sossige (no I really can't spell :oops: ) shop.


Oh yes the emulsified offal tubes. All the flavours you could want. Yup up for that one. And of course some liquid refreshment so I would have to be taxied.. Now that is the beauty of dads taxi service. They abuse it for 10 years. and then once they have a license of their own you get them to taxi you instead.

[SoulKiss]

Now that is the beauty of dads taxi service. They abuse it for 10 years. and then once they have a license of their own you get them to taxi you instead.

Told them that they are taxi-service for Xmas/New Year yet :)

And nice malt you got there - 'phroig is on of my favourites

David

[cmit37]

As a newbie to the world of whiskey I was only familiar with Grants, Famous Grouse, Jack Daniels, Johny Walker(different labels) and Jamersons so I was quite thankful for the previous whiskey/scotch thread where a few brands were put forward.

Until recently Jamersons was my favorite but I had stopped drinking it because it is giving me a headache lately, even a small glass. I always found the rest of them to be a bit rough tasting(not bad but not as easy to drink as Jamersons) and Southern Comfort a bit too sweet and I drew the conclusion that I might like Bushmills.

Unfortunately to my untrained taste buds it tastes nearly as rough as Grants etc with only a subtle hint of extra flavor.

So may I ask for assistance in identifying a good tasting whiskey for somebody who likes Jamersons that is also easy(ish) on the wallet?

[SoulKiss]

Well apart from the JD, I would have to class your previous choices as being from the "Toilet Cleaner" class......

Single Malt is the way to go, as aged as possible.

Good Whisky is like like good sex - anything under 16yo should get you locked up :) (St Andrews Uni Whiskysoc had t-shirts that read "St Andrews WhiskySoc do it with 16yo's" - untill they were told not to wear them or face the Soc being disbanded)

In saying that there are a few 10yo's that are good.

Dont know of any cheap whiskys that are not just wasting your money tho.

David

[Nashwan]

I'm in possession both a 13 and 18 year old bottle of Talisker at the moment. I've only ever tried the 5 y/o stuff before and that was gorgeous enough, so I'm quite looking forward to cracking them open this chrimbo :)

[cmit37]

I have already agreed that my choices were poor apart from Jamersons(no need to insult something I like the taste off). I am now asking for something that I might appreciate based on what I said that I like not on what your favouritestest whiskey in the entire world is.

Does whiskey/scotch branch out into a few categories based on taste and how they are made and if so what else would be in the Jamersons category? If not then I guess I do not love the taste of whiskey too much.

[SoulKiss]

I have already agreed that my choices were poor apart from Jamersons(no need to insult something I like the taste off). I am now asking for something that I might appreciate based on what I said that I like not on what your favouritestest whiskey in the entire world is.

Does whiskey/scotch branch out into a few categories based on taste and how they are made and if so what else would be in the Jamersons category? If not then I guess I do not love the taste of whiskey too much.

Sorry if I offended - was just trying to keep things light-hearted, wouldn't use whisky as toilet cleaner anyway - Coca-cola does a much better job :)

The point I was trying (and failing) to make is that it is no wonder that few people drink whisky when all that is on offer is low-end, rough stuff in most local pubs.

As to tastes and what you like, having never tasted Jamiesons, I cannot comment, but yes there are HUGE differences in whiskies from different areas, and even sometimes within the area.

You really just have to try them.

My suggestion would be to find a pub that has a decent selection and then try the different ones till you get one you like, then hunt down a bottle.

[Amanda M]

I have already agreed that my choices were poor apart from Jamersons(no need to insult something I like the taste off). I am now asking for something that I might appreciate based on what I said that I like not on what your favouritestest whiskey in the entire world is.

Does whiskey/scotch branch out into a few categories based on taste and how they are made and if so what else would be in the Jamersons category? If not then I guess I do not love the taste of whiskey too much.

I like Irish Whiskey! I have a botle of Black Bush at home and that is lovely. Well worth a try if you see if anywhere. It's very very smooth 8)

My favourite single malt has to be The Balvenie Double Wood :D Or Glenmorangie port wood finish single malt.

Nashwan - we have a bottle of the 13yo Talisker and you won't be disappointed. I visited the Talisker distillery a while ago and that was what got me into single malts.

[cmit37]

My fault for not getting the humour. :oops:

So a single malt whiskey is what is normally called scotch?

I think they may sell Black Bush in Sainsburys and might try that next time.

[Luckypants]

My suggestion would be to find a pub that has a decent selection and then try the different ones till you get one you like, then hunt down a bottle.Second that. All the whiskies you have listed are Irish whiskies, which are different from Scottish whiskies (please do not call it 'Scotch' - that is only for ignorant Americans).

Irish whisky tends to be closest in taste to the Spayside malts, so try Macallan 10 yo availble in many pubs or Cragganmore 12yo available in a lot of pubs or Dalwhinnie 15yo (less common in pubs, more heavily sherried). A cheaper alternative commonly found is pubs is Glenlivit 12 yo which is fine, but the 18yo is much superior.

Have fun tasting, but leave the bike at home! :lol:

[Luckypants]

I think they may sell Black Bush in Sainsburys and might try that next time.another Irish whiskey.

[Ping]

Once and for all guys, it's Jamesons. Not Jamiesons or Jamersons.... :lol:

:D

[Amanda M]

My suggestion would be to find a pub that has a decent selection and then try the different ones till you get one you like, then hunt down a bottle.Second that. All the whiskies you have listed are Irish whiskies, which are different from Scottish whiskies (please do not call it 'Scotch' - that is only for ignorant Americans).

Irish whisky tends to be closest in taste to the Spayside malts, so try Macallan 10 yo availble in many pubs or Cragganmore 12yo available in a lot of pubs or Dalwhinnie 15yo (less common in pubs, more heavily sherried). A cheaper alternative commonly found is pubs is Glenlivit 12 yo which is fine, but the 18yo is much superior.

Have fun tasting, but leave the bike at home! :lol:

Ooooo, all of those you suggested are lovely :D Single malts are wonderful and I'm going to have to sample 1 or 2 when I get home tonight 8)

[Stingo]

Once and for all guys, it's Jamesons. Not or Jamersons.... :lol:

:D


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:lol: :P :lol: :lol: :lol:

PS. I opened my Tobermory the other night...is that really where they film Ballamory?

[SoulKiss]

Yep it is, and if you have the right leverage they will sell you alcohol on a Sunday (probably not a big thing now, but 15 years ago it was)

Levereage I hear you ask, well just have to hint that in exchange for sais liquid, the 500 Scouts camping up at the castle WONT be allowed into the shop on the way to the ferry on the Monday....... :)

[Bluepete]

And just to add to the fun Tesco has about 15 malts with about £5 to £7 pounds off a bottle. They are mostly the usual ones, Glenmorangie, Glenfiddich etc, but some variations on the finish (port wood, solera reserve, Caoran reserve etc) but the one I just picked up is Caol Isla, 12 yo. Now, given I am off work, is it too early to have a nip? :drunken:

[Quedos]

Once and for all guys, it's Jamesons. Not Jamiesons or Jamersons.... :lol:

:D

and while we are there whiskey is for irish and whisky is for scottish!!

there over 150 different malts and the best is Littlemill or Rosebank both are now closed and bottles are worth a fortune.

Balvenie is part of a collection - the name escapes me - with about 5 others - always a good startin point. or take a holiday in speyside and tour all distilleries - all have free drams!

[Ping]

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:lol: :P :lol: :lol: :lol:


*gnaws on her desk*

:lol:

[Nashwan]

Anyone tried any of the lowland malts? Can't remember the names of any of the distilleries offhand, but they're very nice indeed; very pale compared to the highland variety and the taste is a lot more subtle too.

Edit: there over 150 different malts and the best is Littlemill or Rosebank both are now closed and bottles are worth a fortune!
I thought Rosebank had reopened? I'm sure I had some of their stuff last Christmas :?

[Luckypants]

one I just picked up is Caol Isla, 12 yo. You won't regret it. Although I think Isla malts are worth the extra age, except for Lagavulin that goes off (to my taste) past 18yo. 21yo Coal Isla is one of my favourites.

[Luckypants]

Anyone tried any of the lowland malts? Can't remember the names of any of the distilleries offhand, but they're very nice indeed; very pale compared to the highland variety and the taste is a lot more subtle too.

Edit: there over 150 different malts and the best is Littlemill or Rosebank both are now closed and bottles are worth a fortune!
I thought Rosebank had reopened? I'm sure I had some of their stuff last Christmas :?Yes have tried plenty! Currently have a Littlemill 21 yo on the go. Rosebank re-opening is still in the rumour stage. Both Rosebank and Littlemill are mothballed.

The other lowland distilleries are:-
Auchentoshan
Bladnoch
Glenkinchie
Inverleven
Kinclaith
St. Magdalene

Neither Littlemill nor Rosebank are all that expensive, possible to get bottles at under £40.

Am I sounding like a nerd yet? :oops:

[Nashwan]

Ah, so it was Rosebank I had. Gorgeous stuff :)

And there's nothing nerdy about knowing your alcohol. It merely indicates that you're a distinguished connoisseur.

It definitely does not mean you're a ****head.

[Stingo]

Anyone tried any of the lowland malts? Can't remember the names of any of the distilleries offhand, but they're very nice indeed; very pale compared to the highland variety and the taste is a lot more subtle too.

Edit: there over 150 different malts and the best is Littlemill or Rosebank both are now closed and bottles are worth a fortune!
I thought Rosebank had reopened? I'm sure I had some of their stuff last Christmas :?Yes have tried plenty! Currently have a Littlemill 21 yo on the go. Rosebank re-opening is still in the rumour stage. Both Rosebank and Littlemill are mothballed.

The other lowland distilleries are:-
Auchentoshan
Bladnoch
Glenkinchie
Inverleven
Kinclaith
St. Magdalene

Neither Littlemill nor Rosebank are all that expensive, possible to get bottles at under £40.

Am I sounding like a nerd yet? :oops:

Personally, I like to start a Burns Night off with a Lowland before closing with a fine Islay - can never usually remember the bit in the middle!! :lol:

Tesco's? Money off? Solera?? must dash........................................

[Sid Squid]

So may I ask for assistance in identifying a good tasting whiskey for somebody who likes Jameson's that is also easy(ish) on the wallet?

Paddy. Best of the dailies from that distilleries production for a while now, and not dear either.

Well apart from the JD, I would have to class your previous choices as being from the "Toilet Cleaner" class.....
You can put JD in the toilet cleaner class too, I can't think of a worse advert for American Whisky, the Yanks make some good stuff, Makers Mark for instance, calling JD good Whisky is like saying Budweiser is beer.

[PsychoCannon]

Lol JD is cheap stuff that you mix with coke to get you ****ed slowly (or not at all depending), I drink it and Like it but wouldn't call it Whiskey if you know what I mean :).

Whiskey is whiskey when every time you unscrew the cap on the bottle your eyebrows start to fall out :)

[furrybean]

What do you guys drink your whisky out of? I was thinking of getting something a bit more refined than the tesco value tumblers.

Saw These (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Glencairn-Crystal-BMG1-Whiskey-Glass/dp/B0007TFRHA//url) and wondered if anyone else uses them. I dont want to use cut crystal as I'm no-where near old enough too and cant see and plain crystal tumblers I like.

[Stingo]

Those look great, no stem to break off....currently I've got some tumblers but I do have one tulip glass remaining - you can get them from a some of the whisky websites...

[The Basket]

This sounds so interesting.

Have to see if Cameron Bridge do tours.

[furrybean]

Those look great, no stem to break off....currently I've got some tumblers but I do have one tulip glass remaining - you can get them from a some of the whisky websites...

What kind of tulip glasses do you have Stingo and what do you think of them? I collect Riedel wine glasses and they do some whisky glasses too but they're pretty dear.

[cuffy]

Once and for all guys, it's Jamesons. Not or Jamersons.... :lol:

:D


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:lol: :P :lol: :lol: :lol:

PS. I opened Tobermory the other night

Womble porn....U rating Mr stingo :D

[Stingo]

Those look great, no stem to break off....currently I've got some tumblers but I do have one tulip glass remaining - you can get them from a some of the whisky websites...

What kind of tulip glasses do you have Stingo and what do you think of them? I collect Riedel wine glasses and they do some whisky glasses too but they're pretty dear.

These ones I find okey dokey... and a nice price too....

https://www.ardbeg.com/Shop.asp?Cat=17

[Stingo]

Once and for all guys, it's Jamesons. Not or Jamersons.... :lol:

:D


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:lol: :P :lol: :lol: :lol:

PS. I opened Tobermory the other night

Womble porn....U rating Mr stingo :D


Aw - damnations & zut alors!! The great secret is out!! :lol:

[furrybean]

They look really good but I can see what you mean about the stem, looks kinda fragile. I might get a couple of those stemless ones. The tulip design seems to be the way to go for the malts.

[Stingo]

Glenmorangie also do a similar one - on a stem but more bulbous :? :?: 8-[ *looks over shoulder for Cuffy*

[furrybean]

These (http://www.shop.aolcookshop.co.uk/acatalog/info_10249.html//url) are the same as the wine glasses I collect and seem to be a similar style just 3 times the price

[Stingo]

These (http://www.shop.aolcookshop.co.uk/acatalog/info_10249.html//url) are the same as the wine glasses I collect and seem to be a similar style just 3 times the price

oops duff link...........

[furrybean]

http://www.riedel-store.co.uk/acatalog/Spirits.html

Those are thems. So you'd go for a tulip shaped glass over a crystal tumbler?

[Stingo]

http://www.riedel-store.co.uk/acatalog/Spirits.html

Those are thems. So you'd go for a tulip shaped glass over a crystal tumbler?


Mmm - stylish. To be honest though, as I like some ice, three chunks usually, a tumbler is fine, particularly as my measures of the fine dram are about three fingers (cuffy alert!!). I use the tulip if I'm tasting something rather special & rare - a smaller more sensible measure and so a correspondingly reduced amount of the old 'Titanic sinker'.

[furrybean]

Reeto, so I'll be needing a set of tumblers and one or two tasting glasses.

Dear Santa,

For Christmas... Oh **** too late

[Stingo]

Reeto, so I'll be needing a set of tumblers and one or two tasting glasses.

Dear Santa,

For Christmas... Oh sh*t too late

Plenty early for next crimbo tho'!! Ho Ho Ho.

[Luckypants]

To be honest though, as I like some ice, three chunks usually, a tumbler is fine, particularly as my measures of the fine dram are about three fingers (cuffy alert!!). I use the tulip if I'm tasting something rather special & rare - a smaller more sensible measure and so a correspondingly reduced amount of the old 'Titanic sinker'.Drink it how you like it, BUT ice will numb the taste buds and so reduce the appreciation of the flavour. As a large proportion of the taste sensation comes from smell, icey whiskey gives off much reduced vapour, further reducing taste.

The point of a tulip glass is to gather the vapours and direct them to your hooter, so anything reducing that will be counter productive when tasting top quality malts.

Water is fine, as this tends to release vapours and so improve the tasting experience. I would describe most cask strength experience as 'closed' until a little water is added. How much water depends on the dram...

For normal drinking, I use a tumbler. As folk know I like a drop, I have been given some lovely cut glass ones over the years. So posh glasses for good whisky....

[northwind]

Found my glenmorangie tulip tumbler a while back, and conveniently just got my dad a bottle of Jura Superstition for his birthday... Quite nice, that :) People say it's like an Islay but I'd say it's more like the regular Talisker, less power but warmer. I can see me getting another...

[Luckypants]

And I noticed that Thresher are doing £5 off every bottle of whisky at present.

[tinpants]

I've not drunk whisky from a tulip glass before. Does it really enhance it that much? I usually drink my whisky ( Glenlivet 18yo or Bushmills 10yo ) from a crystal tumbler in a "gentleman's measure".Thats it. No mixers or ice. Just the whisky.



Its very nice to have a decent cigar at the same time :D

[Luckypants]

If you are into the whole sniffing and noting different smell sensations then yes, absolutely it does. Especially so when trying a new whisky or one you've not had in a while.

If you drink the same thing over and over then a tumbler is great.

For instance, there is a very similar character to your Glenlivet 18yo (great choice BTW), Glenfarclas 105 and Balvennie 10 yo (IMHO), try each one in a tulip glass and there are a whole range of different smell sensations to distinguish these (all great) malts. Once you notice these nuances, then each whisky's individual characters become even more noticeable.

On the other hand, I might just be talking ******** about one of my favourite subjects! :D

[furrybean]

Have I drunk too much or does Glenmorangie have a similar taste to some Islays, i.e. that smoked fish taste? I dont normally drink it but my pa gave it me tonight

[Stingo]

:lol: I'd shay you've shlunk too mush hic! :wink:

[timwilky]

sheckonded.

Just finished off a generous helping of Talisker tonight. and taken out the Highland Park and put it on the drinks table for tomorrows pleasure. That way when the good lady pours me a whiskey, she doesn't realise the choice of which one is being made for her.

So depressing to see 4 different Gins on there plus 3 vodka and only one whiskey.My drinks are forced to remain in the cupboard. then again it stops visitors drinking the good stuff.