any builders?? my breezeblocks are leaking

[hovis]

as we have had a spot of rain latley :roll: there is water on my garage floor, it looks like the single breeze-block wall is soaking up the rain & its leaking into the garare :cry: :shock:

[BILLY]

You need to either render the out side and paint it or just paint it with masonry paint to seal it in Breeze blocks are very porous!!

[dirtydog]

what sort of **** biluds a garage with breeze blocks?

as said either render it or paint it to seal the breeze blocks

[squirrel_hunter]

what sort of **** biluds a garage with breeze blocks?


The sort of ****'s that built mine! They didn't even seal the floor, umm concrete dust...

[BILLY]

what sort of **** biluds a garage with breeze blocks?


The sort of ****'s that built mine! They didn't even seal the floor, umm concrete dust...

Get a couple of bags of ardit self leveling compound that will seal the dust in or floor paint but don't forget to put some pva glue down first!

[dirtydog]

what sort of **** biluds a garage with breeze blocks?


The sort of ****'s that built mine! They didn't even seal the floor, umm concrete dust...


:laughat: :laughat: s_h

[squirrel_hunter]

:evil: :lol:

Cheers for the suggestion Billy. When I say my garage, its more of the landlords garage. Might have a word to her about sealing the floor. But I would much prefer if she would just move all the crap at the back so I can use the whole space. Oh well...

[hovis]

what sort of **** biluds a garage with breeze blocks?

as said either render it or paint it to seal the breeze blocks

my dad did about 15 years ago :(

[kwak zzr]

my garage floor needs painting :roll: i know that dust well.

[valleyboy]

Right, for a start, single skin buildings WILL leak... why do you think they build houses with two skins ? :lol: but as pointed out above, there are a few things that can be done to help prevent the problem, but at the end of they day it wont stop it 100%.. as if you have ever seen the inside of the external wall ona house when its raining heavy, you will know the water will track streaight through.... my bets are, its not breeze blocks, or thermalite blocks.. as if someone built a garage with them, then they deserve to be shot.. they are probably bog standard 4" concrete blocks...

for a start, you can render it inside and outside.. but, paint the outside when its done.. this will add some extra protection... there are some specialist chemicals you can add to the inside coat which will waterproof the stuff even more than your bog standard waterproofer you add to render...

people dont tend to build garages twin skined anymore, as it will end up being a good 300mm at least smaller than you could get it with just single skin... and thats a fair whack to loose if you aint got the room to build on in the first place.... but then they leak like hell in bad weather...

[hovis]

Right, for a start, single skin buildings WILL leak... why do you think they build houses with two skins ? :lol: but as pointed out above, there are a few things that can be done to help prevent the problem, but at the end of they day it wont stop it 100%.. as if you have ever seen the inside of the external wall ona house when its raining heavy, you will know the water will track streaight through.... my bets are, its not breeze blocks, or thermalite blocks.. as if someone built a garage with them, then they deserve to be shot. they are probably bog standard 4" concrete blocks...they are pink

for a start, you can render it inside and outside.. but, paint the outside when its done.. this will add some extra protection... there are some specialist chemicals you can add to the inside coat which will waterproof the stuff even more than your bog standard waterproofer you add to render...

people dont tend to build garages twin skined anymore, as it will end up being a good 300mm at least smaller than you could get it with just single skin... and thats a fair whack to loose if you aint got the room to build on in the first place.... but then they leak like hell in bad weather...

[valleyboy]

I hope you painted those pink.. as I know you can get coloured blocks these days.... :lol:

[hovis]

no, they are pink breezblocks.............i think??

how much would it cost to render the outside ?

im not sure of the size :oops: but i think it 15 x 10 ft?

[valleyboy]

no, they are pink breezblocks.............i think??

how much would it cost to render the outside ?

im not sure of the size :oops: but i think it 15 x 10 ft?

Im not really sure how much.. but I know some plasterers work at £5 per square meter for some stuff... so all depends, on who and what exactly needs doing... as its best to have two coats of render in and out.. first coat is the scratch coat, then you fine the next coat down to the finish you want... then wait for it to dry properly.. (June next year!) and paint it with a few coats..

[hovis]

what about waterproof paint :shock: :smt102

[valleyboy]

When the walls are rendered, the plasterer should put waterproofer into at least one of the coats of render... thats usualy down to the plasterers preference on which coat.... but at least one of them should contain it... as for paint... any masonary paint when applied in at least two coats will be sufficient.... you can even have it in pink if you want.. BUT.. try and avoid the cheap stuff... B&Q's own paint in my use has been crap.... either too watered down out of the tin, or just plain crap.. spend ona decent paint.. weatherseal... or simular should do the trick

[Coddy_SV1000Z]

my garage floor needs painting :roll: i know that dust well.

i painted mine and now im in the process of getting it carpeted :oops:

[hovis]

thanx :wink: but what colour should i get?

[hovis]

painted me floor last year......but i got stuck in a corner & had to wait for it to dry :lol:

[tinpants]

Its a bit late now, but you should wait for some dryer weather and treat the outside of the wall with Thompsons Waterseal. You can get it from your local branch of Jewson or TP. You can also mix it in with the render as well.

Mind you, if you've been having similar weather down there to what we've been having here then I'm not surprised the wet is getting in!!

[chazzyb]

Right, for a start, single skin buildings WILL leak... why do you think they build houses with two skins ?

Insulation mainly, from the cavity air space. My previous house, built in the early 1930's, with solid walls, didn't leak.

If the garage has got a corrugated roof; with the weather and wind we've been having, my money would be on rain having been driven in under it. Maybe. :wink: Dodgy guttering and water running down an external wall will quickly start coming through it though. Not usually enough to result in free water, but certainly horrible damp.

[valleyboy]

Older housing with single skin walls were usualy made with granite or slate.. which is naturaly rather water proof to begin with... the only thing that would let water through those houses would be the mortar.. which is why you have damp proof companies around these days to sort that out.... the housing around where I live is considerably older than 100 years old.... :lol: thopugh I live in a modern house.. the old terraced houses which are dotted all over this part of Wales are considerably older than any of their occupants... and are starting to need damp proofing..
modern housing have the cavities for two reasons, the waterproofing, and insulation.. but you are correct, these days the cavities will be filled with rockwool insulation and the like... modern bricks are crap for waterproofness... your biggest culprit ? London bricks.. the most porous brick known to man kind, and generaly known as crap around here... only used when needed to match existing housing.. brittle as hell, fall to bits at first sign of frost... and suck up water quicker than a sucky up water thingy... :lol:

but I do suggest if you ever get to see the inseide of the external skin of a house in heavy rain, watch how much water can track through and start running down there.... which is why the wall ties should always be going down from the internal to external course...

best thing for you to do Hovi5, is to grab a torch, and when its raining heavy, take 5 minutes to see where its coming from... it may be coming from the roof as stated.. also with the weather we have had recently, i would also not rule out it rising up through the floor depending on if the base was built correctly either :shock:

[kwak zzr]

my cousin just had a block garage built with brick foundations and damp proof but this constant rain is also wetting the blocks inside :wink: over the last 2 weekends we have rendered it with 2 coats like VB says and stuck a calor gas heater inside and its drying out nicely now, it will get painted when this bl@@dy rain stops.

[Ed]

stuck a calor gas heater inside and its drying out nicely now, it will get painted when this bl@@dy rain stops.

Calor gas? Severe condensation hazard :shock:

[skint]

Virtually any single skin masonry wall will allow moisture ingress whether through the brick, block or mortar joint, but using the traditional definition for a garage it doesn't really matter as its not likely to threaten health. With a cavity wall moisture still gets through but because there is a cavity it won't get through to the inside of the house (assuming construction and installation of wall ties and insulation is correct). But you will rarely get a garage with a cavity wall unless built attached to house originally. As for the floor, a garage is not even required to have one. So as to regards of defective construction of the garage it could argued there may not be any actual defect. Certainly the Building Regulations do not require anything more than the standard it seems you have.

You could use a silicon based paint but this is only a temporary measure i.e. anything from 5 - 10 years, so we need to be retreated although it has been known to ineffective at all, largely down to the preparation of the wall before applying. Anything is possible and most suggestions have been made but the bottom line is how much will it cost and so is it such a big issue? :?

[hovis]

thanx for all the advice :notworthy: i will get some of that sandtex stuff & give it a few coats & go from there.

im thinking the garage needs to be dry b4 i paint it??? if so i might get it done august 2007 :shock: or can i paint it on when the wall is wet?
i guess i could just go & get some & see what it says on the tin :wink:

[valleyboy]

Dont paint it while the wall is wet.... it wont dry properly, and that adds another can of worms... :lol:

[hovis]

Dont paint it while the wall is wet.... it wont dry properly, and that adds another can of worms... :lol:

:salut: august 2007 it is then :shock:

[skint]

Dont paint it while the wall is wet.... it wont dry properly, and that adds another can of worms... :lol:

:salut: august 2007 it is then :shock:

...and if they're woodworms that'll be your roof stuffed as well!! :shock:

[Ed]

From the pics I've seen it's ugly anyway, so best off to demolish it and start again :wink:

[hovis]

From the pics I've seen it's ugly anyway, so best off to demolish it and start again :wink:

tempting :? as i could make it slightly wider, but only about 4 foot :cry:

[Baph]

From the pics I've seen it's ugly anyway, so best off to demolish it and start again :wink:

tempting :? as i could make it slightly wider, but only about 4 foot :cry:
4 ft is enough to park the SV in (width)

[hovis]

From the pics I've seen it's ugly anyway, so best off to demolish it and start again :wink:

tempting :? as i could make it slightly wider, but only about 4 foot :cry:
4 ft is enough to park the SV in (width)

thats why im tempted

[hovis]

as you can see in the picture

option 1 is very tight

option 2 is better but the car would have to come out to get to the bike

option 3 is the best but is it worth the hassle & £££






http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/untitled-1.jpg

[Filipe M.]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/untitled-1.jpg

Cool, you taught your kids how to use MSPaint! :lol:

[chazzyb]

What the heck is a car doing in a perfectly good garage? I'm blessed with an integral double garage but I'm sure a car isn't going in there. Not while my bike count is up to five anyway. :lol: Long work bench (ex kitchen cupboards and worktop) down one side, Sealey bike workbench, bikes, stereo; got to get your priorities right!

[Dysparunia]

What about this option:

http://upload4.postimage.org/1903931/garageopt.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1903931/photo_hosting.html)

:twisted:

[Well Oiled]

My garage is single skin breeze block, stucco rendered and painted on the outside. It's never leaked since it was built 4 years ago and it's seen some pretty bad storms. The only water ingress is when the wind blows it under the bottom of the up and over door.

[hovis]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/untitled-1.jpg

Cool, you taught your kids how to use MSPaint! :lol:


ended up with option 1....new car is a bit to long to get the bike behind as in option 2 it would fit if i ripped the bench out

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/dcp_2323.jpg

[hovis]

:oops: i have noticed that there is a lot condensation on the window & roof .........which may be causing the wet floor

any advice on how to stop condensation ? :oops:

[BILLY]

You need some ventilation and a dehumidifier.