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Viper
12-12-06, 09:59 PM
Evening all
My yellow and white textile jacket and my black trousers need a clean. The WIFE ( :lol: ) needs some advice on how best to clean them. :roll:
Do i tell her to chuck them in the washing machine (if so whats the best temp) or does she need to scrub them in a shallow bath of warm soapy water.
I do not want her to wash away and waterproofing that they have but i do have standards that she needs to reach.
Any advice would be gratefully received.

Beenz
12-12-06, 10:11 PM
Viper, IIRC yer missus has just expanded the family reacently with another wonderful mouth to feed, the grief about washing textiles should take a back seat untill the family settles (in about 18 years :lol: )

Some stuff has washable thermal inners, I guess low temp is the best and treat it delicate as its shiny stuff if its Frank T.

fizzwheel
12-12-06, 10:12 PM
By washing it you will wash the waterproofing off no matter what you do.

You have two options. Before you start take al the armour and liners out of what you are washing.

Option 1.

Got into Millets or some other such camping shop and pick up some Nikwax spray on reproofer.

Get some cheapo baby shampoo, run a cool bath and pop your textiles into the bath, get them wet and then pour the shampoo on the textiles and then gently agitate, rinse and repeat :wink: keep doing this till the water is clear. IMHO don't use washing powder or anything like that its to harsh.

Hang your textiles up and let all the excess water drain off, when they are damp but not dripping wet anymore, spray on the reproofer, but don't go made and soak them with it otherwise they'll dry with white streaky marks all over them. Then hang them up somewhere warm so that they finish drying. Its the heat that activates the waterproof element in the reproofing spray.

Option 2

Go to Millets or some such camping shop, purchase some Nikwax tech wash and also pick up some Nikwax Wash in reproofer.

Wash the textiles in the washing machine, on a cool wash ( check the instructions ) with the techwash to clean them. Then wash them again on a cool wash with the wash in reproofer to waterproof them ( check the instructions ). Then hang up again to dry. IMHO a 30 degree wash is best, you might get away with a 40 degree one, But make sure you check the instructions.

I've always reproofed my kit with the Handwash in the bath option. Whatever I've washed and then reproofed has never leaked.

HTH

mac99
12-12-06, 10:17 PM
If they've got GoreTex or other membrane, or maybe even if they haven't , then you might want to look at Nikwax Techwash (http://www.nikwax.co.uk/en-gb/products/productdetail.php?productid=4) instead of normal detergent. This can be done in the Washing machine. Then put them straight back in with Nikwax TX Direct wash-in .

Remove the armour and thermal linings first.

[EDIT. 5 minutes eh? I'm a slow typer]

gettin2dizzy
12-12-06, 10:18 PM
just follow the instructions in the label. If it loses its waterproofness then send it back. I've read that goretex needs a wash every so often in order work! and that a tumble drier activates the breathing capability of it. Theres plenty of waterproofing sprays you could use afterwards

Viper
12-12-06, 10:23 PM
Viper, IIRC yer missus has just expanded the family reacently with another wonderful mouth to feed, the grief about washing textiles should take a back seat untill the family settles (in about 18 years :lol: )

Some stuff has washable thermal inners, I guess low temp is the best and treat it delicate as its shiny stuff if its Frank T.

She offered, :shock:
She says and i quote,

" you have spent a sodding fortune on that stuff at least look after it, its looking dirty, i will wash it for you, will it go in the machine?"

my reply was

"I will go on the forum and ask for you my dear, would you like a coffee."

So here i am

kwak zzr
12-12-06, 10:24 PM
chuck it in the washer and dry it on the radiatior :) thats what i did :roll:

Viper
12-12-06, 10:25 PM
chuck it in the washer and dry it on the radiatior :) thats what i did :roll:

Did :?:

.... Sounds bad

Viper
12-12-06, 10:27 PM
If they've got GoreTex or other membrane, or maybe even if they haven't , then you might want to look at Nikwax Techwash (http://www.nikwax.co.uk/en-gb/products/productdetail.php?productid=4) instead of normal detergent. This can be done in the Washing machine. Then put them straight back in with Nikwax TX Direct wash-in .

Remove the armour and thermal linings first.

[EDIT. 5 minutes eh? I'm a slow typer]

Cheers Ben and fizz, its sold in yeovil OSWALD BAILEY LTD. I will get some

hovis
12-12-06, 10:28 PM
your mistake was buying white & yellow textiles :wink: i would not wash them, as they will probaly lose waterproofness

Viper
12-12-06, 10:30 PM
your mistake was buying white & yellow textiles :wink: i would not wash them, as they will probaly lose waterproofness

Yo Hovi5, how the devil :?:

Yellow and white, looks cool, matching etc its got black in it as well

gettin2dizzy
12-12-06, 10:31 PM
surely if its waterproof it'll repel the washing machine!

fizzwheel
12-12-06, 10:32 PM
its sold in yeovil OSWALD BAILEY LTD.

Theres a Millets in Middle Street, might be a bit cheaper in there than Oswald Bailey.

Viper
12-12-06, 10:33 PM
its sold in yeovil OSWALD BAILEY LTD.

Theres a Millets in Middle Street, might be a bit cheaper in there than Oswald Bailey.

Local Knowledge :wink: , Cheers fizz

Viper
12-12-06, 10:34 PM
your mistake was buying white & yellow textiles :wink: i would not wash them, as they will probaly lose waterproofness

Yo Hovi5, how the devil :?:

Yellow and white, looks cool, matching etc its got black in it as well

http://upload4.postimage.org/1897219/IMG_2930.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1897219/photo_hosting.html)

See looks good

hovis
12-12-06, 10:39 PM
your mistake was buying white & yellow textiles :wink: i would not wash them, as they will probaly lose waterproofness

Yo Hovi5, how the devil :?:

Yellow and white, looks cool, matching etc its got black in it as well

:laughat: http://upload4.postimage.org/1897219/IMG_2930.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1897219/photo_hosting.html)

See looks good

i can hardley make out the colour........with all that dirt :roll:

Beenz
12-12-06, 10:40 PM
i would not wash them, as they will probaly lose waterproofness

Nice one Hovis. Hows life?
True to form and not reading the thread :wink:


By washing it you will wash the waterproofing off no matter what you do.

You have two options. .......


:roll:

hovis
12-12-06, 10:45 PM
i would not wash them, as they will probaly lose waterproofness

Nice one Hovis. Hows life?
True to form and not reading the thread :wink:


By washing it you will wash the waterproofing off no matter what you do.

You have two options. .......


:roll:

i did read the thread :shock: & was agreeing with fizz

Viper
12-12-06, 10:51 PM
Thanks for all your advice.
I have decided to do the following

Chuck em out and by some new ones

Beenz
12-12-06, 10:55 PM
Oh dear, looks like a sense of humour failure....:wink: :grouphug:

Sorry Hovis no offence intended :oops:

Viper
12-12-06, 10:58 PM
Oh dear, looks like a sense of humour failure....:wink: :grouphug:

Sorry Hovis :oops:

:smt102

hovis
12-12-06, 10:59 PM
Oh dear, looks like a sense of humour failure....:wink: :grouphug:

Sorry Hovis :oops:

:smt102

:smt058

Beenz
12-12-06, 11:01 PM
No offence intended. :oops:

Viper
12-12-06, 11:02 PM
:smt026 :smt026
Friends again

hovis
12-12-06, 11:04 PM
No offence intended. :oops: none taken :salut:

Warren
13-12-06, 01:33 AM
ive always got a bar of vansih stain remover soap bar, and scrubbed em in the bath.

Ed
13-12-06, 10:09 AM
...and mine's black anyway, doesn't show the dirt and so I've never washed it and I don't have any plans to wash it either

Ceri JC
14-12-06, 04:16 PM
...and mine's black anyway, doesn't show the dirt and so I've never washed it and I don't have any plans to wash it either

That's my attitude; wait till the waterproofing stops working and you've got nothing to lose if it goes wrong. Then wash it with Nikwax. I don't think I'd risk washing textiles where the waterproofing was still working unless they really needed it. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and all that. :)

hovis
14-12-06, 04:23 PM
...and mine's black anyway, doesn't show the dirt and so I've never washed it and I don't have any plans to wash it either

as above :wink:

KnightRider
13-02-08, 10:04 AM
I know this is an old thread, but just wanted to say a big thanks to you guys for suggesting to use Nikwax to wash waterproof textiles. I have just cleaned my bike gear after a winter of traveling into London every day - my clothes were black and greasy from the fumes - and the Nikwax has cleaned them brilliantly and they are still completely waterproof.

Yet another example of the .org helping people out.

Jon

PS - power to the search function!

JediGoat
13-02-08, 12:22 PM
I know this is an old thread....but I thought I'd add my 2p worth.

Many bike clothes nowadays are not coated fabrics. They have a water repellent outer layer and a waterproof inner.

For these clothes, I always wash them like this:

1. Remove all liners and armour
2. 30 degrees in the machine (handwash, wool or silk cycle best as they spin less)
3. Normal, plain powder. Absolutely no fabric softener or 2-in-1. If you use fabric softener in normal washes, make sure there is none in the drawer.
4. Hang up to dry (or I throw my winter trousers on the radiator)

If really dirty, I use a pre-treatment spray like vanish (not the soap).

The reason for not using fabric softener is to prevent the fibres in the water repellent layer from fluffing up.

I've washed jacket and trousers many many times this way and never had to re-waterproof.

Jo

Ceri JC
13-02-08, 02:13 PM
On a related subject: Is it okay to dry textiles in a tumble dryer (presumably with the armour out; I can imagine the heat/repeated tumbling can be good for that), or will that make them leak (the way washing them can)? I ask as I have been offered a tumble dryer for my garage, but it's only going in there if I can use it to dry my textiles. :D

JediGoat
13-02-08, 02:18 PM
I have sometimes put my winter trews in the dryer to finish them off. I would only do this:

1. On the cooler setting
2. For clothes that do not have the waterproof layer exposed (i.e. if it's lined with mesh, it will prevent it touching the inside of the dryer). Or just zip up jackets.

As an aside, the wash-in waterproofer made by Shift-It actually works better if the garment is finished off in the dryer.

Jo

Warthog
09-07-08, 10:36 AM
*digs up old thread thanks to search function*

So after the AR, I have realised that my 4-year old textiles have begun to leak in the embarassing crotch area. They are very clean still (owing to being washed repeatedly by British weather) so can I just handwash some nikwax into the crotch and that'll be sorted? I can't see any stitching coming undone or anything, it all looks sound still.

northwind
09-07-08, 01:16 PM
The Nikwax techwash followed by tx.direct wash-in stuff is a brilliant combination, it can even turn vairly cheap dodgy textiles that were never waterproof in the firstplace watertight. I just redid by Rukka goretex gear with them and the results are flawless. Course, I then got the trousers covered in mud at the AR :rolleyes: I handwash as it's supposed to be kinder on heavy gear than machine washing.

Nikwax stuff is generally good, I've never used a product of theirs that didn't live up to expectations.

Warthog
12-07-08, 12:01 PM
I just bought some NikWax spray on stuff, it was exactly the same as the wash-in stuff for cordura, only you spray it on when wet and leave it 2 mins. Will report back on effectivity! (luckily in this climate I won't have to wait 3 months for rain :-P)

yorkie_chris
12-07-08, 03:56 PM
Wash biking gear?

monkey
25-05-09, 04:46 PM
For these clothes, I always wash them like this:

1. Remove all liners and armour
2. 30 degrees in the machine (handwash, wool or silk cycle best as they spin less)
3. Normal, plain powder. Absolutely no fabric softener or 2-in-1. If you use fabric softener in normal washes, make sure there is none in the drawer.
4. Hang up to dry (or I throw my winter trousers on the radiator)


Serious Jo? Can I use this method for my goretex HG stuff and it won't ruin it?